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Why is iTunes11 against classical music?

As someone involved in the international regulation of cyberspace and the standards that enable it to function, I have watched Apple recently make a number of mistakes that are increasingly isolating it from governments and the commercial, particularly business, marketplace. Their non-participation in many of the key international committees in our collaborative world is a pity, not just for Apple, but for its customers - including me. In particular, they aren't participating in key cybersecurity groups, so there is a real possibility in the future that Apple's hardware will be physically unable to connect to any trusted network for the handling of sensitive information, such as your patient record. Their folly is breathtaking. I am discovering more shortcomings in Apples latest products, which is a pity. Most of these affect me professionally.


However, this one affects me personally. It is their refusal to engage with loyal customers that is the most frustrating issue - you can tell by the mood in these support communities. What has really got me is the way in which Apple has really gone to war on classical music folks in iTunes 11, by removing a wide range of controls for managing and listening to tracks (not songs, these are (media) tracks, Apple, not all musicians are singers!). In iTunes 11, Apple has completely failed to understand that Albums have Artists (as well as Album Artists) and Composers. And Composers are at least as important as Albums or Artists.


In iTunes 11, when I click on an Album, I cannot get it to show a composer for the tracks on the Album under any circumstances. Worse, when you search on a composer using keywords, it doesn't find all the tracks for that composer (so there is a problem in the search engine, which worked fine previously). So my/our ability to sort our music to listen to albums or tracks by a specific composer, which has been in iTunes for as long as I can remember, has gone in iTunes 11. So too has reliable, accurate searching. What a shambles. It lays bare Apple's failure to test products properly - I regret to say this is happening elsewhere with an increasing frequency.


Has anyone found a way to correct Apple's massive errors and restore the flexibility of iTunes10 in iTunes11 to:

  • reconfigure the Album window so that it displays attributes that the user requires, not what Apple's uncultured nerd limits the user to seeing.
  • extend the View options which are far too limited. This is a database, so I should have enough controls to manage and view the data
  • configure the Bar that has Songs, Albums, Artists, Genres, Videos and Radio to add other attributes, particularly Composers and Album Artist
  • find ways to sort by any attribute in other views. I can only get the attribute list to show when you have Songs selected.

??


For Apple. Pay attention - I want my flexibility back!! Remember Apple - the Customer is Always Right!

Mac Pro, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.1)

Posted on Nov 30, 2012 3:30 PM

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Jan 24, 2013 1:08 PM in response to gamechanger

Using iTunes for Classical music is similar to reading the music pages in the Chicago Tribune - you would think that classical music has disappeared from the earth - other than the separate reviews of the CSO. The lack of a composer search in Album view is a real pain. Surely someone in Cupertino listens to Classical music! Apple has really let us down!

Jan 24, 2013 2:50 PM in response to macman1940

The best part of this downgrade is that, if you want to want to purchase a classical compilation album from the iTunes Store, you first have to go and look at Amazon or another online seller to see the name of composers of the various pieces....... Way to go Apple!


I've been an avid supporter for Apple for years, but since a few months i'm having serious doubts as to what Apple wants: to remain a reliable, userfriendly and durable friend for the entire community aged 16 to 99 or to be a flashy designer driven company for badly conceived Microsoft like gadgets for kids between 16 and 30!

Feb 6, 2013 7:14 AM in response to gamechanger

another VERY simple solution is to just go back to iTunes 10.7 - just don't forget to de-select the automatic updates for iTunes...


to avoid all sorts of troubles follow this procedure, it's bullet proof, you'll loose nothing, get no errors or other :


http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=16400819&postcount=6


then to wrap it up send Apple some feedback explaining why you did it


i did & .....bliss again !


but to be honest i'm waiting for something to come along to replace iTunes to jump ship - a little bird told me there IS something REALLY NICE in the works & coming up..


iTunes gradual ''iOS-ation/dumb-ization'', constant progression towards what is or isn't convenient to those who buy music by the song/have 20GB music libraries, easy access to the iTunes Store at every step of the UI, etc...to me only means i'm done with iTunes & can't wait to drop it like a hot potato


i didn't buy a Mac/paid extra to constantly battle uphill or to be bored to tears - for that any El Cheapo machine running XP would suffice

Jan 18, 2014 11:36 AM in response to gamechanger

I agree. Terrible for classical music. In ITunes, you cannot search by both title and composer. iTunes will not list all of the available works. The search engine is so limited and omits much relevant music. Additionally, when looking at the samples, the composer cannot be found. Music is listed by title (such as Partita). No mention of composer ( probably Bach, but who knows) . Just do a search for Heifetz. There is a compilation of works, but clicking on what's on the album will not give you any of the composers names. I find amazon much more user friendly and unless iTunes shapes up, I plan to buy music from other sites.

Apr 17, 2014 6:10 AM in response to gamechanger

I have just downloaded three tracks from the album "The Merton Organ" which is a compilation of pieces played on the new organ of Merton College Chapel Oxford. I cannot discover the names of the composers of the remaining tracks without buying them! I can find the name of the organist but not the name of the composer of 'Andante with variations in D major Op 82' etc. This is silly and an insulting affront to lovers of classical music who find it really difficult to identify the tracks in iTunes store.


Get real, iTunes - we classical music lovers might spend some serious money if we knew what we could buy!

Jul 27, 2014 2:30 PM in response to dreverett

'Andante with variations in D major Op 82 is by Mendelssohn. Found the info at:


http://player.qobuz.com/#!/album/0801918341427


which I found via Google. Unfortunately I can't tell what sort of a site it is, but the data is listed in a column labelled "Artist". The other tracks are similarly listed.


I'm here because I've just bought a major new NAS (8TB or 4TB in Raid) and was thinking of using iTunes to build my library of music - mainly, but by no means exclusively, classical and perhaps audio books. What I have read here has not been encouraging. I shall look around to see if there's a better option.


I don't need it as a place to buy music, but I would like to have a good service for loading information from CDs and for searching and playing stuff once it's been loaded. And streaming over my network, since that's where the storage is. Backup I will worry about later.

Why is iTunes11 against classical music?

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