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I have used purge command several times it clear out the inactive memory into free, but after some time it becomes inactive again. 😐
MacBook Pro, OS X Mountain Lion
From the graph you posted, your system look normal.
Virtual memory dynamically changes the graph you see. The graph indicates that three-quarters of your RAM is inactive when the screen capture was done; about the same proportion as mine.
Yes, but it slows down the perfomance.
after using purge command and making the inactive memory free it performs normal, but at the condition as displayed in graph any app doesnt respond for small period of time after I start it.
If you're seeing a slowdown in performance, that's a consideration.
What kind of slowdown are you experiencing? Is it for a second or two, or longer? Does the slowdown keep you from entering keyboard info or scrolling?
Apps doesnt start the normal way as it used to be before
===> 10 to 20 seconds there
Runnung apps hangs sometimes
===> for about 10 seconds
Even web browsers like safari and google chrome are slow now
Finder also takes more time to browse folders.
Vikie36 wrote:
Apps doesnt start the normal way as it used to be before
===> 10 to 20 seconds there
Runnung apps hangs sometimes
===> for about 10 seconds
Even web browsers like safari and google chrome are slow now
Finder also takes more time to browse folders.
Inactive memory is essentially the same as "free" but what you are observing is unusual and the slowdowns you describe indicate something is amiss.
There are many possible reasons for this. Rather than ask a dozen different questions regarding your system, would you be willing to download and run a little utility that may help point to a cause?
If so read the following:
Apple Support Communities contributor etresoft wrote a very useful app to quickly gather certain system information that may help point to a cause of this problem. Go to his website, download and run EtreCheck:
http://www.etresoft.com/etrecheck
Don't be concerned about anything that says "Problem" or "failed".
Copy and paste its output in a reply.
Etrecheck was designed to remove any personal information (such as your computer's name and serial numbers) but if you see anything that looks like an email address or any other personal information that should not be divulged to others, please delete or obscure that information when you post the reply.
When you are finished with EtreCheck, quit the program. It occupies very little space, and you can keep it or drag it to the Trash as you wish.
Vikie36 wrote:
Apps doesnt start the normal way as it used to be before
===> 10 to 20 seconds there
Runnung apps hangs sometimes
===> for about 10 seconds
Even web browsers like safari and google chrome are slow now
Finder also takes more time to browse folders.
In this case I would cross-check the CPU tab in Activity Monitor to find out if high CPU usage is involved in the slowdown and if a particular process is doing it (I sort the list by %CPU). If not, perhaps the slowdown is related to virtual memory disk swapping, so I would cross-check the System Memory to see if the Page Outs and Swap Used numbers are rising and also try to identify which process is doing it.
Under normal circumstances Inactive never needs to be manually purged. It is a cache that is supposed to increase performance by making recently used data available in the fastest access memory you have: your RAM.
In your case, if Inactive rises dramatically even before launching apps, there is a possibility that there is a Login Item that is not working properly.
Recently I had the changement of behaviour of my memory RAM. The inactive memory started to rise as soon as I start my mac and keep it high. A week ago the inactive memory raised in relation to the cache of some application and it do not raise after purge it. I suspected a malware but intego and sophos antivirus failed to find it. My question is what happened ?
please find the check of my system
Hardware Information:
MacBook Pro (15-inch, Early 2011)
MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro8,2
1 2 GHz Intel Core i7 CPU: 4 cores
8 GB RAM
Video Information:
Intel HD Graphics 3000 - VRAM: 512 MB
AMD Radeon HD 6490M - VRAM: 256 MB
Startup Items:
ChmodBPF - Path: /Library/StartupItems/ChmodBPF
HP Trap Monitor - Path: /Library/StartupItems/HP Trap Monitor
HWNetMgr - Path: /Library/StartupItems/HWNetMgr
HWPortDetect - Path: /Library/StartupItems/HWPortDetect
VirtualBox - Path: /Library/StartupItems/VirtualBox
System Software:
OS X 10.8.4 (12E55) - Uptime: 0 days 1:59:27
Disk Information:
Samsung SSD 840 Series disk0 : (500,11 GB)
disk0s1 (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209,7 MB
MouLionMZ (disk0s2) /: 499,25 GB (38,82 GB free)
Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB
MATSHITADVD-R UJ-8A8
USB Information:
Apple Inc. BRCM2070 Hub
Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
Canon MX360 series
Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver
FireWire Information:
Freecom Hard Drive Quattro 3 800mbit - 800mbit max
disk1s1 (disk1s1) <not mounted>: 209,7 MB
ML-Time Machine (disk1s2) /Volumes/ML-Time Machine: 2 TB (77,67 GB free)
Thunderbolt Information:
Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus
Kernel Extensions:
com.intego.netbarrier.kext.monitor (572)
com.intego.netbarrier.kext.network (572)
com.intego.netbarrier.kext.process (572)
com.vmware.kext.vmx86 (3.0.0)
com.sophos.kext.sav (8.0.14)
com.vmware.kext.vmci (3.0.0)
com.vmware.kext.vmioplug (3.0.0)
com.vmware.kext.vmnet (3.0.0)
org.virtualbox.kext.VBoxDrv (4.1.4)
org.virtualbox.kext.VBoxUSB (4.1.4)
org.virtualbox.kext.VBoxNetFlt (4.1.4)
org.virtualbox.kext.VBoxNetAdp (4.1.4)
com.intego.virusbarrier.kext.realtime (683)
Problem System Launch Daemons:
Problem System Launch Agents:
Launch Daemons:
[not loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist
[not loaded] com.adobe.SwitchBoard.plist
[not loaded] com.barebones.authd.plist
[not loaded] com.barebones.textwrangler.plist
[not loaded] com.cleverfiles.cfbackd.plist
[not loaded] com.fitbit.galileod.plist
[not loaded] com.freemacsoft.appcleanerdaemon.plist
[not loaded] com.google.keystone.daemon.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.commonservices.daemon.integod.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.commonservices.daemon.taskmanager.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.commonservices.icalserver.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.commonservices.metrics.kschecker.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.netbarrier.daemon.logger.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.netbarrier.daemon.monitor.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.netbarrier.daemon.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.netupdate.daemon.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.virusbarrier.daemon.emlparser.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.virusbarrier.daemon.logger.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.virusbarrier.daemon.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.virusbarrier.daemon.scanner.plist
[not loaded] com.mac.adg.SquidMan.plist
[not loaded] com.machangout.glims.loader.plist
[not loaded] com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist
[not loaded] com.sophos.autoupdate.plist
[not loaded] com.sophos.intercheck.plist
[not loaded] com.sophos.notification.plist
[not loaded] com.stclairsoft.AppTamerAgent.plist
[not loaded] com.vmware.launchd.vmware.plist
[not loaded] com.wdc.WDDMservice.plist
[not loaded] com.wdc.WDSmartWareServer.plist
Launch Agents:
[not loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist
[not loaded] com.adobe.CS5ServiceManager.plist
[not loaded] com.amazon.sendtokindle.launcher.plist
[not loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.commonservices.integomenu.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.commonservices.taskmanager.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.commonservices.uninstaller.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.netbarrier.alert.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.netupdate.agent.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.virusbarrier.alert.plist
[not loaded] com.machangout.glims.agent.plist
[not loaded] com.netgear.NETGEARGenie.plist
[not loaded] com.sony.ReaderLibrary.RunReaderLibrary.plist
[not loaded] com.sophos.uiserver.plist
[not loaded] com.wacom.pentablet.plist
[not loaded] net.culater.SIMBL.Agent.plist
User Launch Agents:
[not loaded] .dat0343.000
[not loaded] .dat3bbd.000
[not loaded] com.facebook.videochat.mauro.plist
[not loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac.helperTool.plist
[not loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac.trashSizeWatcher.plist
[not loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac.volumeWatcher.plist
[not loaded] ws.agile.1PasswordAgent.plist
User Login Items:
SmartDaemon
Google Drive
Skype
Dropbox
3rd Party Preference Panes:
A Better Finder Preferences
PenTablet
DivX
Flash Player
Flip4Mac WMV
Growl
HyperDock
MacFUSE
MagicPrefs
Perian
Plantronics
SixtyFourSwitcher
Xmarks for Safari
Internet Plug-ins:
AdobePDFViewer.plugin
CoolirisWebKitPlugin.plugin
DivXBrowserPlugin.plugin
EPPEX Plugin.plugin
Flash Player.plugin
FlashPlayer-10.6.plugin
Flip4Mac WMV Plugin.plugin
Google Earth Web Plug-in.plugin
googletalkbrowserplugin.plugin
iPhotoPhotocast.plugin
JavaAppletPlugin.plugin
npgtpo3dautoplugin.plugin
o1dbrowserplugin.plugin
OfficeLiveBrowserPlugin.plugin
QuakeLivePlugin.plugin
QuickTime Plugin.plugin
RealPlayer Plugin.plugin
SharePointBrowserPlugin.plugin
Silverlight.plugin
WacomNetscape.plugin
WacomSafari.plugin
User Internet Plug-ins:
BlueStacks Install Detector.plugin
Picasa.plugin
Unity Web Player.plugin
Bad Fonts:
None
Top Processes by CPU:
85% SophosAVAgent
65% virusbarriers
55% cfbackd
4% WindowServer
3% Sophos Anti-Virus
2% coreservicesd
1% EtreCheck
1% InterCheck
1% fontd
1% hidd
Top Processes by Memory:
500 MB virusbarriers
188 MB Google Chrome
180 MB mds
172 MB InterCheck
172 MB Mail
164 MB SophosAVAgent
98 MB Skype
82 MB WindowServer
74 MB CalendarAgent
74 MB Dock
Virtual Memory Statistics
71 MB Free RAM
3.36 GB Active RAM
3.38 GB Inactive RAM
1.18 GB Wired RAM
1.87 GB Page-ins
77 MB Page-outs
Yikes. You have so many third party system hacks and programs notorious for making a Mac run poorly that you cannot reasonably expect your system to perform as designed.
I suspected a malware but intego and sophos antivirus failed to find it.
"Malware" is a broad category that includes poorly written or incompatible apps and system modifications, and it includes Intego. Get rid of that junk.
Your MacBook Pro is nearly 100% preoccupied with scanning for viruses that do not exist, leaving it with almost zero resources to do anything else. This is the height of absurdity.
The choice to install such programs is yours, but you must comprehend and appreciate their capabilities and limitations before installing them. Depending on exactly what you used CleanMyMac to do, its effects may not be reversed without reinstalling OS X. Never install such junk on a Mac.
You are likely to need much more assistance in getting your Mac to return to normal. Please consider posting a new question with that topic.
Dear John,
thank you very much fo your support, now the situation is getting better, the inactive memory have a rasonable size and the effect that I described disappeared after the unistall of smart deamon. In fact I found that one of his component "cfbackd" ued a lot of cpu.
Let me know the programs that I must not use. In fact I have some problem, I installed the last update and I received an error message. I agree with you, I use too many thirdy party programs.
Best Regards
Mauro
Hardware Information:
MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro8,2
1 2 GHz Intel Core i7 CPU: 4 cores
8 GB RAM
Video Information:
Intel HD Graphics 3000 - VRAM: 512 MB
AMD Radeon HD 6490M - VRAM: 256 MB
Startup Items:
ChmodBPF - Path: /Library/StartupItems/ChmodBPF
HP Trap Monitor - Path: /Library/StartupItems/HP Trap Monitor
HWNetMgr - Path: /Library/StartupItems/HWNetMgr
HWPortDetect - Path: /Library/StartupItems/HWPortDetect
System Software:
OS X 10.8.4 (12E55) - Uptime: 0 days 2:32:54
Disk Information:
Samsung SSD 840 Series disk0 : (500,11 GB)
disk0s1 (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209,7 MB
MouLionMZ (disk0s2) /: 499,25 GB (38,66 GB free)
Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB
MATSHITADVD-R UJ-8A8
USB Information:
Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
Apple Inc. BRCM2070 Hub
Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver
FireWire Information:
Thunderbolt Information:
Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus
Kernel Extensions:
com.intego.netbarrier.kext.monitor (572)
com.intego.netbarrier.kext.network (572)
com.intego.netbarrier.kext.process (572)
com.intego.virusbarrier.kext.realtime (683)
com.sophos.kext.sav (8.0.14)
Problem System Launch Daemons:
Problem System Launch Agents:
Launch Daemons:
[not loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist
[not loaded] com.adobe.SwitchBoard.plist
[not loaded] com.barebones.authd.plist
[not loaded] com.barebones.textwrangler.plist
[not loaded] com.fitbit.galileod.plist
[not loaded] com.freemacsoft.appcleanerdaemon.plist
[not loaded] com.google.keystone.daemon.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.commonservices.daemon.integod.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.commonservices.daemon.taskmanager.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.commonservices.icalserver.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.commonservices.metrics.kschecker.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.netbarrier.daemon.logger.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.netbarrier.daemon.monitor.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.netbarrier.daemon.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.netupdate.daemon.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.virusbarrier.daemon.emlparser.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.virusbarrier.daemon.logger.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.virusbarrier.daemon.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.virusbarrier.daemon.scanner.plist
[not loaded] com.mac.adg.SquidMan.plist
[not loaded] com.machangout.glims.loader.plist
[not loaded] com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist
[not loaded] com.sophos.autoupdate.plist
[not loaded] com.sophos.intercheck.plist
[not loaded] com.sophos.notification.plist
[not loaded] com.stclairsoft.AppTamerAgent.plist
[not loaded] com.wdc.WDDMservice.plist
[not loaded] com.wdc.WDSmartWareServer.plist
Launch Agents:
[not loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist
[not loaded] com.adobe.CS5ServiceManager.plist
[not loaded] com.amazon.sendtokindle.launcher.plist
[not loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.commonservices.integomenu.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.commonservices.taskmanager.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.commonservices.uninstaller.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.netbarrier.alert.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.netupdate.agent.plist
[not loaded] com.intego.virusbarrier.alert.plist
[not loaded] com.machangout.glims.agent.plist
[not loaded] com.netgear.NETGEARGenie.plist
[not loaded] com.sony.ReaderLibrary.RunReaderLibrary.plist
[not loaded] com.sophos.uiserver.plist
[not loaded] com.wacom.pentablet.plist
[not loaded] net.culater.SIMBL.Agent.plist
User Launch Agents:
[not loaded] .dat0343.000
[not loaded] .dat3bbd.000
[not loaded] com.facebook.videochat.mauro.plist
[not loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac.helperTool.plist
[not loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac.trashSizeWatcher.plist
[not loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac.volumeWatcher.plist
[not loaded] ws.agile.1PasswordAgent.plist
User Login Items:
Google Drive
Skype
Dropbox
3rd Party Preference Panes:
A Better Finder Preferences
PenTablet
DivX
Flash Player
Flip4Mac WMV
Growl
HyperDock
MacFUSE
Perian
Plantronics
SixtyFourSwitcher
Xmarks for Safari
Internet Plug-ins:
AdobePDFViewer.plugin
CoolirisWebKitPlugin.plugin
DivXBrowserPlugin.plugin
EPPEX Plugin.plugin
Flash Player.plugin
FlashPlayer-10.6.plugin
Flip4Mac WMV Plugin.plugin
Google Earth Web Plug-in.plugin
googletalkbrowserplugin.plugin
iPhotoPhotocast.plugin
JavaAppletPlugin.plugin
npgtpo3dautoplugin.plugin
o1dbrowserplugin.plugin
OfficeLiveBrowserPlugin.plugin
QuakeLivePlugin.plugin
QuickTime Plugin.plugin
RealPlayer Plugin.plugin
SharePointBrowserPlugin.plugin
Silverlight.plugin
WacomNetscape.plugin
WacomSafari.plugin
User Internet Plug-ins:
BlueStacks Install Detector.plugin
Picasa.plugin
Unity Web Player.plugin
Bad Fonts:
None
Top Processes by CPU:
77% Mail
10% WindowServer
5% NotificationCenter
2% mds
1% EtreCheck
1% netbarrierm
1% CalendarAgent
1% Google Drive
1% Skype
1% virusbarrierb
Top Processes by Memory:
283 MB Mail
172 MB InterCheck
147 MB virusbarriers
139 MB mds
123 MB Google Chrome
106 MB Skype
98 MB WebProcess
90 MB WindowServer
82 MB Safari
82 MB Messages
Virtual Memory Statistics
3.25 GB Free RAM
2.88 GB Active RAM
705 MB Inactive RAM
1.17 GB Wired RAM
554 MB Page-ins
0 B Page-outs
Thanks Mauro, as I wrote earlier there are still too many third party programs and system modifications to enumerate, but at a minimum I recommend you uninstall any and all "anti-virus" junk. It is not required and is only capable of making your Mac run poorly. OS X already includes everything it needs to protect itself from viruses and malware. Anything you choose to install can have unintended consequences, including anti-virus software.
In addition to that:
This is far from an exhaustive list.
If it were up to me, given the overwhelming number of modifications present I would completely erase your system and reinstall only software that you require to perform the work you need to do, to entertain yourself, to store valuable documents, pictures, and music, and to communicate with others. These are the usual activities I consider normal for any computer; abilities for which a Mac is designed and ideally suited. Slathering on layer upon layer of anti-virus utilities and system hacks can only prevent you from doing these things.
Dear John,
thank you very much for your help and your suggestion, I will consider to erese all and reinstall the useful programs. I never did that since my first leopard OS. I need a couple of day free from work to rebuild my work space carefully. Today I will erese the programs according to your suggestions.
Best Regards
Inactive memory automatically increases every time I start my MacBook Pro.
