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How do I install the Classic environment to existing OS 10.3.9

I bought a used 12" G4 Powerbook online which has system 10.3.9 installed, and does not have the classic environment folder installed. This computer came without system disks or the original install disks.


The reason I bought this computer is to run an old OS 9 application that will 'unlock' images that are on 'Konica' image disks.


What is the right way to have the Classic OS 9 installed? Also, if I need to reinstall the system, would it be better to upgrade to Tiger? as I understand that Tigeris the latest system that will run on the G4 Powerbook that will also run the Classic environment.




TIA,



Ken

Posted on Dec 5, 2012 7:41 PM

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Dec 23, 2012 8:00 PM in response to Kenneth Nielsen

After 4 hours of feeling like I was fighting the Mongols back with a stick: Any installation attempt I made was met with insert disk 2 and then an error message that something was wrong, try again.. after several tries with all the disks I had, I came back to the orginal set and selected 'install basic system only' which only needed disk one and worked. Fine, but now with system 10.4.11 installed now, trying to fire up the old app that needs OS 9 it gave me a similar message to having 10.5 installed


"Classic cannot find a Mac OS9 stystem folder on the startup disk to use."


"There is no volume with Mac OS 9 System folder for Classic to use."


"You may need to install Mac OS 9.1 or later (Classic Support) on you computer. To select a system folder on another volume, click open classic preferences."


An so on... I'm wondering now if I shouldn't have partitioned the drive first, allowing 5G for system 9 and install system 9 from the oldest (9.1) Powerbook G4 disk I have. Then, go ahead again and install 10.4 from the newer two-disk set I have using disk one only again.


The Konica picture show app I need to get running in order to retrieve the high res versions of images I took years ago reall does want OS9 and not an emulation it seems. Shame on Konica and their blasted encription scheme they no longer support at all of course.


Any suggestions on how to proceed from this point?


Oh, one other thought, since I bought two old 12" Macs on ebay, the older one being a USB 1.1 ports, and 2003 vintage Powerbook, maybe I should just install OS 9.1 on that machine and give that a whirl. the USB 2.0 floppy drive I bought for this purpose also works on the USB 1.1 machine as well, so that might be the best way to go.


Appriciate your thoughts on this.

Dec 24, 2012 10:20 AM in response to Kenneth Nielsen

From some notes I saved earlier on classic install. I have done this and it worked. A lot easier than the install disks which seem to be problematic. There is a system folder on the OS 9 install disk which might work.


You can install Classic support on the G4 by copying the System Folder from another Mac on which Classic mode works.


If you just want to run classic mode, copy the System Folder from another Mac that has OS 9.1 (or better with 9.2.1 or 9.2.2) installed. A USB thumb dive works great for this. Transfer the folder to your Mac. It won't interfere with your OS X system which is in a folder titled System.




There is a system folder in the OS 9 install disk which might work.

User uploaded file



This is the OS X folder where it goes

User uploaded file


This looks interesting also.


http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-10331436-263.html

Dec 24, 2012 12:48 PM in response to dalstott

I wouldn't touch the CNET method, or rather, I hope I don't have to go there. Your suggestion is a Christmas Miracle to me right now. If this works, and it sure sounds like it is what the error messages have been asking for, then I'll be at home plate. Thanks for this excellent help dalstott. I'll check back in as soon as I go for it, but as today is Christmas Eve, I have my sights set on making a homemade Enchilada dinner from scratch. That will keep me busy until later.


Thanks :- )

Dec 25, 2012 1:52 PM in response to Kenneth Nielsen

Well, things started popping with your method dalstott, but ended with the OS 9 startup screen hanging, so no startup.


Along the way I got two screens 1.) "Recommend 9.2 update" and 2.) "Quicktime version not recommended. Best to use Quicktime 6.0.3 or later for OS 9"


I was not able to get an updater for version 9.2 online. Apple has apparently abandoned the downloads for these versions, although there is a page showing, the links don't lead to a download.


Not sure about Quicktime or if it is necessary to install a proper version, where would I install it? just not sure how to handle this.


Any thoughts Dalstott? This process has come almost to a conclusion with your help.


Thank You,


Ken

Dec 26, 2012 8:51 AM in response to Kenneth Nielsen

Ken,

The later G3 powerbooks Lombard ( Bronze Keyboard PowerBook1,1) or Pismo (Firewire PowerBook3,1) will have USB 1 ports. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerBook_G3


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David

Dec 26, 2012 9:53 PM in response to dalstott

I found a Lombard that is working with 9.2 installed. I made an offer on this machine and now waiting to see if it is accepted. I should have looked at older machines like this to start, but now I have a new hobby, collecting old Macs. I didn't bid on a working Pismo, which is newer, because it had Tiger installed and I just wanted the older model because I need pure OS 9. Maybe the install disks I have would work to install on the Pismo, if the offer on the Lombard is refused. These machines are all still G3 so I think I have the right install disk. This stuff is being left in the dust, as Apple no longer offers the upgrade to OS 9.2.2 - which was a great OS as I remember.


In a holding pattern for a day or two now waiting to hear.

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