why is logic pro so hard??

ive been a fruity loops user for about 4 years now but decided to jump on the apple bandwagon and get a macbook.

so now im stuck with having to use logic because fruities doesnt work on mac, which is kind of okay because ive been looking to try out a more professional software anyway but logic is soo hard!!! all i want to do is put a kick sample into piano roll, make a pattern, then loop that pattern. and do the same with other samples. its like apple have purposefully made music making hard. i know if it was easy everyone would do it. but im sick of spending hours on logic and logic tutorials for no results at all.

Posted on Dec 11, 2012 10:03 PM

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Apr 11, 2014 6:12 PM in response to The Art Of Sound

Nigel,


let me first say that I respect your expertise and commitment in this forum (and I also like your music on SoundCloud). You and a couple of others like Pancenter, Eriksimon, and BeeJay should be on Apple payroll for your support of Apple’s customer.


However, I don’t understand the point of your post regarding my signature. I use that signature for quite some time now and I’m also active on other forums on the Apple site. Do you think the moderators wouldn’t have spotted that? Quite the opposite. I had my run-in with the moderators for some "over critical" posts or links that were not allowed. I also had my share of posts that were deleted by the moderators.

It seems that you are familiar with the wording of the Use Agreement that you quoted. Maybe you should have recognized that I use exactly that phrase “I may receive ….”. That should be give-away that I’m quite familiar with the text too. I had some discussion in the past with the moderator about the signature and this is what was agreed upon. Can it still be interpreted as a violation - of course? Do you think I should add the exact page reference of my book for the individual post I’m responding to?


I’m not selling my music, I’m not selling sample libraries or music hardware. As a side business, I’m writing manuals for Apple’s software products like Final Cut Pro, Motion, GarageBand and also Logic. I’d like to think that every Logic user knows about my unique books, but that is not the case and posting that link in my signature gives the “help-seeking-Logic user” an additional option to find more help on the current topic or Logic in general if he or she wants to learn more about Logic.


I self-publish all my books. I don’t have any support from a publisher. I developed a uniques style with my Graphically Enhanced Manuals (GEM) that helps the beginner as well as the advanced user. Apple posted a link to my website on their Final Cut Pro product page when I started with the first Final Cut Pro X books. I got personal compliments from programmers and people inside Apple about the quality of my books. I can send you long list of testimonials from satisfied customers. The amount of effort I put in those books is in no relation to the money I make (you ask my wife about the time commitment). Apple even earns their 30% of the iBook version of my books. BTW, if you had a chance to look at the iBook version of my Logic or the my new GarageBand X book, then you would know that there is no other book for these apps that provide that kind of interactive learning experience with such detail.

As I said, I self-publish all my books, that means I don’t have an advertising budget and although my books are available as printed books on Amazon, they are not on any shelf of any physical bookstores where you can find all the books of the major publisher.

My advertising efforts are restricted to reviews, blogs, word of mouth and social media. Being active on forums and letting people know who I am and that I wrote a great book for that specific app is one little drop in my big picture of getting the word out without using spamming people.


If you think it is necessary to bring up the issue of my signature and the possible effect that the moderator might re-think their action, that would just close another opportunity for me. At the end, it would also hurt potential Logic users that might appreciate the help I provide in my book, a book he would never know it existed.


PS: If you noticed, I didn’t mention the title of any of my books.



Edgar Rothermich

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Apr 11, 2014 7:44 PM in response to EdgarRothermich

Edgar,


Maybe my intentions have been misunderstood...


I was simply alerting you to the fact... (as I too, as i mentioned earlier.. was 'asked' to remove my own link..) as I do not wish for you to be in any way prevented from providing the help you give here...


You would be sorely missed...


...and for what it is worth, I think your 'books' are excellent... and i recommend them to my clients whenever the appropriate opportunity arises... as I also do for David Nahmani too, for much the same reason...


My sincere apologies for any unintentional offence caused....


Cheers..


Nigel

Apr 12, 2014 7:41 AM in response to EdgarRothermich

I self-publish all my books. I don’t have any support from a publisher. I developed a uniques style with my Graphically Enhanced Manuals (GEM) that helps the beginner as well as the advanced user.


Edgar Rothermich

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Like the book.


When is the second one coming out that has all the good stuff in it?


I start reading a section and just when it starts to get really interesting, you bail and tell me it's going to be in the "second" book. Yet there is no second book.


So, like, make with the second book already.


It would be convenient for me if you can finish it in the next few days.


Thanks!


(In case you cannot tell, I am feeling whimsical this morning...)


By the way, my monograph on proper Apple Support Community etiquette is available at fine online bookstores everywhere.

Apr 12, 2014 9:48 AM in response to Mark Stockwell

Mark Stockwell wrote:


My sincere apologies for any unintentional offence caused....



Oh, just roll over.


We had the makings of a good rhubarb going here until you got all reasonable.


This, my friend, is the internet and there is no room for any of that mealy-mouthed, conciliatory, nonsense here.


Yes! Nigel's attitude (or lack thereof) has violated several sacred Internet tenets.


1. Never apologize or admit to being wrong... ever!


hehehe..

Apr 12, 2014 4:08 PM in response to Mark Stockwell

Sory for the inconvenience but I had to "bail" at some point. Otherwise, the book would be 800 pages and cost $200. BTW ' getting already close to the limit of the file size I can upload for a printed book



Mark Stockwell wrote:


It would be convenient for me if you can finish it in the next few days.


Thanks!



I will try my best to finish the book in the next few days but I have the feeling it will not happen. June/July would be a bit more realistic.

Look at the bright side. Maybe Apple will update Logic in the meantime to give us the EXS24 v2 we are waiting for years. Maybe it even includes the Keymap functionality from Redmatica. If that happens, I will have that chapter in the second book.


Edgar Rothermich

Apr 12, 2014 4:13 PM in response to Dannyowashere

Dannyowashere wrote:


I think arguing if a track pad or a mouse is better is kind of arbitrary


I'm not arguing if the Trackpad is better, I tell you that it is better. 😁


Of course, like so many things, it comes down to personal preference. From my experience, I would not go back using a mouse.

BTW, a TrackPad realy starts to shine when used with the BetterTouchTools app, talking about cusomization !!!

Apr 12, 2014 4:24 PM in response to EdgarRothermich

Edgar wrote:



I will try my best to finish the book in the next few days...



Great!


I'll hold you to that.


If you get it done by Wednesday, that should leave a couple days to get it to Apple, so I should be reading it on the weekend.


Perfect!



Edgar wrote:


Look at the bright side. Maybe Apple will update Logic in the meantime to give us the EXS24 v2 we are waiting for years. Maybe it even includes the Keymap functionality from Redmatica. If that happens, I will have that chapter in the second book.


Edgar Rothermich


Since you are clearly on the inside, I take it that Logic X v2 is coming soon and will have this Redmatica functionality in EXS24. I don't know what it is, but I am excited!


Thanks for the heads up...

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