Thunderbolt to USB cable?

I appreciate that Apple wants to push their Thunderbolt connection, but that doesn't do much good since there are few products out there that support Thunderbolt. It would have been great to have a 3rd USB 3.0 on the Retina and a single Thunderbolt port instead of 2-Thunderbolt ports and 2-USB ports. Is there such thing as a Thunderbolt to USB cable? I do alot of audio/photo editing and use external hardware that runs on USB.

MacBook Pro with Retina display, Windows 7, MacBook Pro Retina on Windows

Posted on Dec 16, 2012 9:26 PM

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Dec 18, 2012 2:20 PM in response to DJBrianBASS

DJBrianBASS wrote:


Don't hubs cut down the bus speed compared to individual USB ports on a laptop that have full speed reguardless if 1 or more are being used? A hub might be my only option if I can't find a Thunderbolt to USB adaptor

Only if you have multiple thing connected to the HUB and they are active at the same time. Just using a HUB with 2 or more things connected to it does not slow down the transfer rate.


Like you have a HUB with a mouse or keyboard connected to it and also a HDD. The mouse and keyboard use very little of the bandwidth of the USB port so you wouldn't notice any drop in data transfer to the drive.

Now if you had multiple drives connected and tried to do transfers to all of them at the same time then you would notice a drop in speed.

Dec 18, 2012 2:38 PM in response to DJBrianBASS

Shootist is right. In other words, what happens is that the max transmission data rate of any one USB controller is shared among all connected devices. 'Devices' being numerous, Bluetooth, iSight/Facetime camera, card reader, internal and external keyboards, trackpad, audio, and peripheral 3rd-party gear as per your liking such as storage devices, etc.


Check your Mac's System Report, the USB controllers are listed there, including what's connected to them. You'll see that the "internal" devices are spread out over the controllers via "internal" hubs. You'll see what the max speed is of both controllers and individual devices - left in marketing terms with "up to".


Aside from other potential bottlenecks, you want to connect external devices which are supposed to run as close to their max speed as possible to a controller that has no other demanding devices aleady connected (e.g. keyboard, or the unused camera).


Admittedly, guessing how Apple would treat additional USB ports, if they existed - giving them their own controller, or connecting them via an existing internal hub - is pure speculation; though it's clear that controllers cost money, and we know that e.g. PCs with four ports typically use hubs for at least two of them...


Fact is you have only two USB ports with individual controllers now, and you could indeed benefit from utilizing a TB port for USB as well since it'd also use its own controller (again, other bottlenecks elsewhere aside). Then, though, the question is, why convert TB to USB instead of using TB gear e.g. for storage? For now this may make the bottleneck in the wallet all too obvious, but if I were you, I'd rather get a cheap USB hub now and save my bucks for the TB drive until its price tag fits me... they're cheaper by the hour...

Dec 18, 2012 2:56 PM in response to DJBrianBASS

Sounds good, indeed, at least in my ears.


BTW #1, here is IMHO a very good "real-world" article on TB vs. USB 3.0 vs. USB 2.0 vs. FireWire etc. <Edit:> Keep in mind that the comments on TB prices are almost "yesteryear"...


BTW #2, not that it matters here and now but I think the internal optical drives were on some SATA bus with a controller different and separate from USB controllers.

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