Lombard 400

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Lombard 400

I have a Lombard 400. In OS 9 under System Profiler it says DVD decoder present, as I thought 400 versions did hve dvd built on the motherboard. But when I goto Applications Mac OS 9 folder and click on Apple DVD player icon it says this macinosh model can't run DVD player. What gives?

Thanks,
ivnj

15 inch black keyboard, Mac OS X (10.2.x)

Posted on Apr 29, 2006 1:54 AM

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Answer 1

Apr 29, 2006 3:27 AM in response to Kavan Sidhu

Does it have a DVD drive or normal CD optical drive? I Believe all 400 have the built in decoder but i think some were made to order with the faster 24x CD drive. Are the DVD extensions turned on? Just wondering..i have no other clue.

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Apr 29, 2006 8:59 AM in response to Kavan Sidhu

Kavan,

I can't tell whether you are booted into 9.x or 10.x when attempting to use the DVD Player, so I will make this general statement: DVD Player is unsupported in any version of OSX on the Wallstreet and Lombard, nor will it play in Classic. Booting into 9.x is the only way to play DVDs.

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Kavan Sidhu Author

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Apr 29, 2006 11:24 AM in response to Kavan Sidhu

I know that. Everything is OS9 I mentioned. And yes it says 2x DVD-ROM module. Not very fast but it is DVD at least. And 9 at lest suppported the player so there's no excuse.

Thanks,
ivnj

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jpl

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Apr 29, 2006 7:41 PM in response to Kavan Sidhu

Kavan,

Does the message say "this model can't run DVD Player" or something to the affect of "Apple DVD player cannot open because it cant find the required hardware"?

The latest version of Apple DVD Player for the Lombard and Wallstreet is version 1.3; DVD Player 2.x or later will not work.

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Kavan Sidhu Author

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Apr 30, 2006 12:21 AM in response to Kavan Sidhu

Version 2.7. Where do I get 1.3?

Thanks,
ivnj

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jpl

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Apr 30, 2006 9:11 AM in response to Kavan Sidhu

Kavan,

DVD Player 1.3 came on OS 9.0.0 CDs and later but was not available as a separate download. As I recall, you are running 9.2.2(?); as such (and if memory serves), you cannot boot to a 9.0 > 9.2.1 CD and custom install the DVD Player. You will get a message stating your installed software is newer than the CD.

However, you can download TomeViewer (a Classic utility) from VersionTracker and extract the necessary files from the CD. You will be booted in 9.x > load the CD > launch TomeViewer (no window appears, just use the menu bar) > File > Open > MacOS 9.x CD > Software Installers > System Software > MacOS 9.x > Installation Tome > Open.

These are the five items you need; once they have been expanded on your desktop, make a new folder named Apple DVD Player and place all the items in the folder (even the extensions), then place the folder in your Applications folder. Be sure to trash all items associated with Player 2.7.

Apple DVD Player
Apple DVD Player Guide
Apple DVD Player ReadMe
DVD Navigation Manager
DVDRuntimeLib

Highlight each item (or shift-click all five) > go to the menu bar > Archive > Expand > select desktop and expand (one of the options here is to create a new folder for the items). Restart and test.

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jpl

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Apr 30, 2006 9:56 AM in response to Kavan Sidhu

Kavan,

I was just looking at my OS 9.2.2 on my Wallstreet and noticed that there are three extensions in my Extensions folder:

DVD Decoder Library
DVD PC Card enabler
DVD Region Manager

You don't need the DVD PC Card Enabler (you have the built-in hardware decoder), but I imagine you need the other extensions and they will go in the Extensions folder.

There are other DVD files in the Tome but these are for other Mac computers; the ones I have mentioned in my two replies are what I have in my Wallstreet for playing DVDs.

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Kavan Sidhu Author

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Apr 30, 2006 11:16 PM in response to Kavan Sidhu

9.0 CD boots fine. Pismo doesn't boot 9.0 CD. Lombard bots fine. I fresh installed 9.0 and ran 9.1 update download from Apple. I meshed the extensions half and half so I could keep my present stuff and see what was wrong with the old folder. Then delete the new system folder and keep my originl layout. The 9.1 new system folder had 5 extensions.

DVD Decoder Librry
DVD Navigation Manager
DVD PC Card Enabler
DVD Region Manager
DVD RuntimeLib

Theere were 9 in the System Folder that came with this Lombard. The 5 mentioned above plus these 4.

DVD AutoLauncher
DVD Navigation Manager ATI
DVD Navigation Manager NV
DVD Video Interface

Not sure why there are two Navigation Managers. What ATI and NV are. Or not even sure what NV stands for.

But anyway DVD 1.3 I kept form the clean install now works. I can watch all the DVDs I want.

But If I put those four extensions I mentioned in the System Folder in the Extensions folder. I get this:

Apple DVD Player cannot find software it needs.
Try reinstalling Apple DVD Player. (201)

Even without restarting the computer. Those four extenisons give the error. And removing then to the desktop lets me play all the DVDs I want.

What those four do I have no clue but they prevent me from watching DVDs. I guess if they're not important I could just leave them out.

Thnks,
ivnj

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jpl

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May 1, 2006 8:20 AM in response to Kavan Sidhu

Kavan,

The extensions you mentioned...

DVD AutoLauncher
DVD Navigation Manager ATI
DVD Navigation Manager NV
DVD Video Interface

...are extensions installed by Apple DVD Player 2.x or later; these are not used by your Lombard so you can discard them. The Lombard uses DVD hardware decoding and is thus limited to Player 1.3. The Pismo and newer powerbooks use DVD software decoding and can thus use newer versions of DVD Player.

The above extensions are in my iBook 800KHz and it is running Player 2.7.

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