Apple Event: May 7th at 7 am PT
As we enter 2013, I am desperate for an email program that will work like Mail did before Mountain Lion.
Mail 6.2 with OS 10.8.2 is a real disappointment - unreliable, constantly taking accounts offline, slow, etc etc.
Numerous problems as noted on this & other forums continue with no sign of help from Apple.
Would appreciate any suggestions/recommendations for an alternative program.
Thanks!
...John
Mac Pro, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2)
Terminal is a program in your Applications --> Utilities Folder
Double click to open it
Then enter the commands exactly as printed out above (cut & paste is great).
For a short Primer on Terminal, go to http://guides.macrumors.com/Terminal
It is a great little program and many Mac Tips are on line which set out commands that help out your Mac in many ways...worth a little time invested.
You should have a backup system for your whole HD contents - especially your boot drive. Again, lots of reference materials & tips online..use Google to find them... its sort of fun to set up a good & reliable system. I use Time Machine along with SuperDuper & an external HD.
As for saving a specific file/folder, just move it to Trash but do not empty the Trash until you are sure all is well once you have completed your changes.
Restart after you have finished and, if all is OK, you can then empty the Trash.
Hope this helps.
And I continue to hope Apple smartens up its Mail application!
neartheredrocks wrote:
The best Mail alternatives are in my opinion Thunderbird (free) or Outlook (part of Office for Mac 2011 Home & Business, trial version available). Both are very good mail applications. Both can also be used as replacements for Contacts and Calendar, but I'm not sure how well contacts and appointments can be synchronized with iOS devices.
Outlook will not sync Contacts and Calendars with iCloud, so no sync to IOS devices without plugging them into the Mac.
My understanding is that folder is used by the new sandbox features of mountain lion and is not needed.
It is needed, but gets automatically recreated (and rebuilt so any corruption is removed).
cwebber1 wrote:
What exactly is this command? Does the OS use it (and if so, when?).
It sounds like (maybe) it's a command to rebuild the indexes which point to your email.
If that's what it does, I'm curious how things might have gotten screwed up to begin with.
Yes, that is what it does. sqlite3 is the database engine OS X uses to create indexes for just about everything.
However, you don't need to run the command. Just delete the Envelope Index and it will be rebuilt.
As with anything like this, always have a backup.
The Vacuum command copies the database file to a temp location then writes over the orginal.
Deleting the file causes Mail to rebuild it from scratch based on the raw message data.
Thanks for this! I was researching alternatives to Apple Mail when I found your excellent fix!
Hi, I was wondering if this command would help my situation. I am guessing it wouldn't, but it doesn't hurt to ask.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5310918?answerId=22998577022#22998577022
I use both Apple Mail and Mozilla Thunderbird.
Even though Mozilla Thunderbird continue to receive updates and program enhancement it does not fully integrates with the system as Apple Mail does.
Since I installed Mavericks, Mail has been acting up, in that the folder in Mail do not reflect the reality of the actual account they are connected to. I have most gmail accounts. If I read the email on Gmail then Mail will sit there and not update either the unread count or when I click on the folder (=tag on gmail) the mail remains listed as 'unread'. I've got a folder open right now and its insisting these Mail items are unread although I read them all over an hour ago. And I had a whole of 'Smart Mailboxes' that aggregated a bunch of folders together and showed me just the unread items but forget about it, my "smart" mailboxes are now useless.
I've had to resort to having gmail open in my browser.
Some people on twitter have mentioned that has similar problem with Mail pre-Mavericks so it might not be a Mavericks issue.
I tried the index rebuild mentioned here and it has not affected any of this behaviour.
Alternative to Mail (Mtn Lion)
