Fake MacBook Pro problems?

Well said.

i wholeheartedly second that

both sides should use this forum as a help forum, instead of attacking each "side" (though which side is which is really not relevant because both buy and use MBP anyway) and ridiculing someone who simply feels helpless and desperately needs someone's attention on her/his issues/problems

Yes, I second that big time too.

It doesn't add anything to the discussion except bad feelings.

Tribe A: Has bought something they coveted and it's fulfilled their needs. When others criticize their purchase they feel a bit threatened and come to its defense. Some may be regretting their decision to early-adopt and now covet the 17"
Tribe B: Has bought something they coveted and it hasn't met expectations in some way. They are not happy and express that in a variety of ways, some helpful some not. Same 17" regret issue as A perhaps.
Tribe C: Hasn't bought anything yet and is just reading these Forums before making a decision.
Tribe D: Has no intention of ever buying a Mac and is just here to cause trouble.

The bit that's getting lost is that A, B and C all share a love of Macs and only want things to get better 🙂

I did what??

Do you genuinely think people have nothing better to
do with their time than to make up fake problems and
post about them? What in the world would anyone
gain from doing that??

Yes, but I don't know why they would do it.

But I agree with you...

I just wish people would stop posting 10s of 100s of threads a day about the same topic.

Do you genuinely think people have nothing better to
do with their time than to make up fake problems and
post about them? What in the world would anyone
gain from doing that??

Actually, no, people don't have better things to do with their time.

Realize that some people do have psychological issues, dependent personality disorders, etc and may be here for attention.



I'm just playing devil's advocate here, but you search any online message board and you'll see that there are people that do this.


And this is supposed to be a Support Forum anyway... What does your post have to do with regaining smooth operation of your software or hardware?! Maybe you're one of those people looking for attention 😉 j/k
:-P

I don't necessarily think that people have nothing better to do, I just think that there are varying degrees (no pun intended) of the problem. One person may have a macbook pro that can indeed melt flesh, they say "my laptop runs HOT"
somebody else has one and it's warmer than their old one, but not necessarily as hot as the first person "mine's too hot too" until people start regularly annotating a temperature and taking note of how much work the processors were actually doing, talking about a notebook being hot will remain useless.

Well, I have a fake problem with my MacBook Pro:

I can't see it. I've looked all over my desk, and the thing must be invisible.

It must be quiet, because I can't hear it either. I wonder if the fans are working.

I sure wish I could see it, it would be much easier to use then.

Maybe it would be visible if I purchased one first. That might be the ticket 😉

Just having fun 😉

But, seriously, I've had so much trouble with the two iMac G5's that I used to own (sold them because they spent more time being repaired than being used), that I am just waiting for the design problems to stabilize before jumping in again.

In the mean-time, I'll keep using my old Mac Mini.

I am hoping that the design issues get worked out in the next revision. Hopefully that will be coming out soon.

I did stop in at a local dealership to look over the MacBook Pro that they had on display. I wasn't thoroughly impressed. It was great while it was sleeping, but when I woke it up, it was louder than the iMac G5 with it's fans running at high speed.

And, to clarify, no I'm not one of the ones who wined about the noise from my iMac's fans. I tolerated that. It was the actual hardware failures and dying that I couldn't tolerate.

Anyway, hope they get things stabilized soon. When they get things going smoothly, maybe that MacBook Pro will show up on my desk.

None of the above. You're Tribe X.

I don't necessarily think that people have nothing
better to do, I just think that there are varying
degrees (no pun intended) of the problem. One person
may have a macbook pro that can indeed melt flesh,
they say "my laptop runs HOT"
somebody else has one and it's warmer than their old
one, but not necessarily as hot as the first person
"mine's too hot too" until people start regularly
annotating a temperature and taking note of how much
work the processors were actually doing, talking
about a notebook being hot will remain useless.

This is exactly my point. Not everyone owns an IR thermometer. So we're getting subjective complaints. I highly, highly recommend getting an IR thermometer if you have or suspect a heat issue. Not only will you be able to compare real temperatures with others, it will serve as ammo when talking to support.

I think the issue that is compounding the vague "it's hot" posts is the fact that Apple refuses to release what this specification is for heat. They will immediately tell you it's within spec, but NO ONE (not even the support people) know what the spec is. So how can they tell you it's within spec if they don't know what it is?

The support specialist working with me has assured me he is working with the engineering team to get a number from them, so if and when he does give me that info, I will be sure to post it here.