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Advice on purchasing a new computer for print and web design on a budget.

Recently the hard drive on my late 2006 Imac failed. I am now trying to decide what to replace it with and can’t settle on a comfortable solution.


I am a print designer who works on catalogs and photobooks and also does some web design. Until it died, the Imac was adequate. Though it had only 1GB of ram and a 250GB hard drive I was running CS3 comfortably on the machine. I had about 100GB of data that I accessed regularly from an external drive and was using about 175GB of the machine’s internal hard drive.



I’m hesitant to spend $1299 on a new Imac because money is a bit tight and I have some reservations about working on a glossy screen. I was immediately attracted to buying the basic Mac Mini for $599 and a monitor, which I figured would cost me about $200, saving me around $500. I see that the Mini has a dual-core processor (same as my old Imac) and 4gb of memory (4x that of my old machine). This would be a step up, but will it be adequate working on modern browsers and new CS software 3-4 years down the line? Additionally, I’m rather clueless about monitor technology and, after some research, it seems I may have to factor more into my budget than $200 for one good enough to display accurate colors and render typography well.



If processing power and memory would be an issue, I could increase the memory of the basic Mini to 8GB for around $60 with aftermarket ram or buy the Mini with a quad-processor and 4GB of ram for $799. Add the $200 (or more) for a monitor and I’m creeping closer to the cost of the new Imac. I’ve all but completely ruled out the purchase of a Macbook Pro (which I desire for it’s portability) because the basic model is comparable to the basic Mini in terms of processing power and $600 more. I’m also considering buying a used machine where I could get a more power for less money.


Any thoughts that may help me come to a decision would be much appreciated.

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Posted on Feb 4, 2013 3:50 PM

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Feb 5, 2013 1:47 PM in response to Dr. Benway

Because you are a designer and running Adobe apps, the sad truth is you really need both a fast CPU and lots of RAM memory as well as plenty of hard drive space.

Most of the Adobe apps use of combination of the CPU and RAM to expedite many of the graphics processing in all of their apps. Also, GPU power is also a function, also, but usually, GPU VRAM power can be sacrificed with little detriment to the workflow.

So, CPU vs RAM is a different argument for graphics and video work.

Feb 5, 2013 4:13 PM in response to Dr. Benway

Contrary to some posts here, CS3 does run in 10.8.2. The Adobe site attests to that. And I have it running on my MacBook Pro. Installing might be a problem, but there are ways to deal with that.


http://blogs.adobe.com/photoshopdotcom/2012/08/osx-10-8-mountain-lion-released.h tml


Earlier versions of Adobe Photoshop® (CS3 and CS4), Lightroom 4.1, 4.0 and earlier software were also tested and there are currently no known issues.


You probably already know that when running Photoshop, you should have a second hard drive to designate as the scratch disk. It makes a world of difference.

Feb 5, 2013 6:20 PM in response to Dr. Benway

I've got a couple of low cost solutions for you.


Install OS X on a external drive and boot from that.


Since your iMac came before 2009, it can permanently run OS X on a external drive for as long as you want, unlike newer models which blast the fans if the internal hard drive is dead.


This will only cost you the price of a external hard drive and get you by.


Remember, new software is going to cost you plenty.


Create a data recovery/undelete external boot drive




Another option is to get a used Windows 7 Pro version (or better version) or 10.6 Mac and download and install CS2 for free here (since you own CS already) problem is previous file comparability with CS3.


Windows 7 Pro and above will run XP versions which CS2 is compatible with, Windows 7 is supported until 2020.


When budgets are tight, it's hard to beat a PC sometimes, when you get more money then upgrade to a newer pricier Mac then.


https://www.adobe.com/downloads/cs2_downloads/index.html




You also can change the iMac's internal hard drive and clean the fans of dust yourself.

http://eshop.macsales.com/installvideos/



I got a quote of $200 from a local shop. I considered it but since the machine is becoming obsolete, I feel that it may be a waste of money. How many years can you expect to get out of an Apple computer?


iMac's don't last as long as the MacPro because of the all in one design and inability of most to open the machine and clean the fans of dust required of all devices at least once a year.


Most all Mac's come sealed up now. 😟


Just need a good anti-glare monitor for the PC, and Apple's monitors are all glossy, even the new iMac is still 25% glossy 😟



Good point. I was running CS3. I'll have to see if that's compatible with the new OS.


Nope, only CS6 is. But it's a monthly rental now, likely cost more money over time than purchasing directly.


http://roaringapps.com/apps:table



The 2013 Imac is sounding better and better.


Just remember your back into the same boat again, a all in one machine (glossy screen too) and that if warranty or 3 year AppleCare expires your buying yet another new machine with all new expensive software again.


If it breaks your out a machine, a Mac Pro tower you can replace the parts yourself and be back to work. 😉

Feb 5, 2013 6:14 PM in response to ds store

• Nope, only CS6 is. But it's a monthly rental now, likely cost more money over time than purchasing directly.


This is incorrect. I am running CS3 on 10.8.2. And the Adobe site I linked to earlier also attests to that. To repeat myself,


http://blogs.adobe.com/photoshopdotcom/2012/08/osx-10-8-mountain-lion-released.h tml


Earlier versions of Adobe Photoshop® (CS3 and CS4), Lightroom 4.1, 4.0 and earlier software were also tested and there are currently no known issues.

Feb 5, 2013 8:51 PM in response to Dr. Benway

just six year life on an imac? i have two computers, a g3 and a g4 imac, both bought new more than ten years ago, used in smoke filled rooms, and neither show any signs of dying. have i been lucky? i don't know. but i sure haven't been unlucky. are the intel models that much different? maybe i'm not comparing apples to apples. just don't know. i do know that you stated that other than your hard drive dying that you said you were satisfied with your machine.

Feb 5, 2013 9:27 PM in response to ds store

• According to others it's not working as well as it should.


Others? Who?


For what it's worth I have been using CS3 since 10.8 was first available and installed on one of my Macs. I use Photoshop extensively, almost everyday. I also use Illustrator and InDesign but less frequently.


I am not speaking for "others", I am speaking for myself.


• It's only a matter of a update to OS X to break CS3 and CS4 anyway, that's no long term solution.


Of course the next OS update might break CS3 and CS4. That goes for just about any third party apps we are running now. And how do you know it wont break CS6?


To say only CS6 will run in OS 10.8 is plain wrong.

Feb 6, 2013 9:35 AM in response to ds store

I had considered running the machine from an external drive. It looked like it was going to cost about the same as installing a new hard drive in the machine. The hard drive on my '06 Imac has the following specs.: 250GB Serial ATA(2); 7200 rpm. In order to run the machine from an external drive it would have to have the same construction right? I can see an advantage to running from an external drive, rather than installing a new internal hd, because were something else on the machine to fail I could still use the external with a new machine. I bet the efficiency of the computer is significantly compromised when running from an external drive though.

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