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which gps receiver is working on iPad mini

I like to use my iPad mini (WIFI only) with offline maps with a bluetooth gps receiver.

Technical this could work. but ..

Apple seems to have blocked GPS receiver bluetooth use on the newest iPads. WHY ??

Is there a bluetooth GPS receiver that works ?

Hope to get some good answers.

iPad mini-OTHER, iOS 6.1, wifi only model

Posted on Feb 12, 2013 9:55 AM

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Posted on Jun 21, 2013 2:31 AM

I'm definitely interested in GPS for my wi-fi only iPad Mini. And I'm very interested in the Bad Elf. Maybe not the Pro model, but there's a cheaper one, I believe that still provides a GPS signal to the iPad.


But I've got a couple of questions, especially targeted at Brett if you're still out there!


Mainly, my question is: does this device provide "location information" generally, to all apps that use location services? Or does it only supply GPS location information to apps custom designed for it?


Garmin's GLO seems to be promoted for use with Garmin apps, for instance, and you can't get a clear idea of what else, if anything, could get position information from it.


I've got a trusty old Garmin Mobile 10 Bluetooth GPS. My Mac's bluetooth can recognize it and pair with it, but niether of my iOS6 devices (iPhone 4 & iPad Mini) can see it. So it must have an older BT protocol? My understanding is that it puts out NMEA protocol position data, and only certain apps can use that. But I can't find any technical info on either the Bad Elf OR the Garmin GLO about what format(s?) the position info is in or what apps can use it. Makes me a bit nervous about laying out my $99.

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Jul 2, 2013 11:32 AM in response to hexonxonx

Hi, all.


Just a quick update on my progress.


I have downloaded CoPilot from the AppleStore, along with the European map option that includes Russia.


CoPilot has linked in with the inbuilt GPS of the Ipad 2 Wifi+3G and I have been using it locally (London suburbs) without a sim card installed.


I have so far been very impressed with it's quick response and recalculation of routes when I decide to take my own turn against it's suggested route.


I am still getting used to the map display options and not sure I have got it set up the best way yet, but the have found that I can follow the voice description and large junction indicator very well. Having a the next turn displayed with the distance to it has been easy to follow.


My trip across and around Europe is planned for July and August 2013 so will report back after that as to how it guided me.


With gratitude

Andrew

Jul 15, 2013 3:53 PM in response to BrettAtBadElf

A quick question for BrettAtBadElf, does any usb gps receiver work with ipad mini (wifi only), assuming there is appropriate app and adaptor to plug the receiver to ipad? I was looking at serveral options such as the bad elf receiver and these guys:


http://www.amazon.com/GlobalSat-BU-353-USB-Navigation-Receiver/dp/B000PKX2KA/ref =sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1373928755&sr=1-1&keywords=usb+gps


http://www.amazon.com/GlobalSat-ND-100S-USB-GPS-Dongle/dp/B003WNHGAO/ref=sr_1_3? s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1373928755&sr=1-3&keywords=usb+gps


Appreciate your help!

Jul 15, 2013 4:01 PM in response to qkhhly

Nope -- you can't connect arbitrary USB peripherals to an iOS device, including GPS receivers. They have to be MFi certified. So your only options today for the iPad mini (or any other device with a Lightning connector) are the Bluetooth products from Bad Elf or Dual, or the 30-pin Bad Elf GPS dongle with Apple's Lightning-to-30pin adapter.


Rumor has it that some new Lightning-compatible GPS accessories will be appearing soon... ;-)


Hope that helps!

Jul 15, 2013 7:05 PM in response to qkhhly

I have a wi-fi only iPad Mini (posted several times above in this thread), and I bought a Bad Elf Pro Bluetooth GPS. It work like a charm and is pretty much fool proof and dead reliable so far. My wife w. her iPad2 (wi-fi only) and I have both been connected and following a road journey at the same time with no problems (says it will support up to 5 clients).


WIth regard to accuracy (see my comments above and in another thread about location services in a wi-fi only iPad), it is FAR more accurate and responsive than the "wi-fi based" location service natively available on the device.


I have been bemused by how accurate that wi-fi location was, since I live almost a 1/4 mile from my "street address" and well out in the country away from any "hotspots" that I know of. No wi-fi signals EVER detected here except from my router. And yet, my iPad Mini, operating only on its native location service ("wi-fi triangualtion" they say?!?) can put me IN my house on my 3 acre property and sort of tell which end I am in!


I don't know how it can do that, but it does. The pale blue "circle of uncertainty" however is very large, (probably about 100 yards in radius!!) using only the wi-fi location service, however it works!


With my Bad Elf Pro, the pale blue circle around my location spot is about 5 yards initially and, after it has been working a bit, gets even smaller. It can pretty reliably tell me what room I am in in my house. (I'm referring here to my location on the satellite view of Google Maps or Apple Maps).


The device itself is quite compact and easy to carry in a pocket. I"m thinking about putting a velcro self adhesive dot on the back and one on the dash of the rental car we'll be using in Ireland in 6 weeks. By the way, after shopping all the choices for an iPad auto navigation App, I chose Co-Pilot (UK & Ireland) becase it was the cheapest. Trial routes run on it suggest that it is quite good and easy to use and I don't see any reason to spend more for some ot its competitors, though they all look pretty good in the samples.

Jul 17, 2013 7:19 AM in response to BatiArb

BatiArb wrote:


Hi, all.


Just a quick update on my progress.


I have downloaded CoPilot from the AppleStore, along with the European map option that includes Russia.


CoPilot has linked in with the inbuilt GPS of the Ipad 2 Wifi+3G and I have been using it locally (London suburbs) without a sim card installed.


I have so far been very impressed with it's quick response and recalculation of routes when I decide to take my own turn against it's suggested route.


I am still getting used to the map display options and not sure I have got it set up the best way yet, but the have found that I can follow the voice description and large junction indicator very well. Having a the next turn displayed with the distance to it has been easy to follow.


My trip across and around Europe is planned for July and August 2013 so will report back after that as to how it guided me.


With gratitude

Andrew

Again, you say you have the iPad wifi+3G. If so, you do not need an external GPS. Your iPad has GPS built in.

Jul 25, 2013 4:44 PM in response to orbje

I have a wifi only iPad and experienced an issue that can be named as "external module blocked" from streaming GPS data to iPad. Turned out it is a known issue and guys from bad-elf helped me to solve it. I first bought GARMIN GLO and then I went for Bad-Elf PRO (both bluetooth). I summarized my experience with both modules here. See for yourself, both bad-elf and garmin glo are solid in terms of quality. I use currently GARMIN GLO in my car and Bad-Elf PRO everywhere else 🙂.

Nov 12, 2013 5:11 AM in response to roland lannuzel

Hi Roland,


Thanks for reaching out!


Yes, the logs can be exported in GPX and KML formats for easy importing into other apps including Aperture, fitness sites, social media, etc. One free site I use a lot is http://gpsvisualizer.com for processing and displaying the data in a variety of formats/graphs/mapping engines.


Hope that helps.


Best regards,

Brett

Nov 20, 2013 11:20 AM in response to BrettAtBadElf

Hi Brett,


It would be great to have BadElf post major retailers, at least in the USA, on their website. I know I can order mail order, but for international customers, this can be an added hassle due to added duties and shipping problems. It's much easier to be able to walk into a store on a trip and just be able to buy one. Frankly for me, such a device which does better GPS than the GPS integrated in the cellular device to get the cellular iPad mini, the price difference is pretty much the same as the cellular one. I don't really want to add a cellular chip to my planned iPad, but I do want GPS for trips.

Nov 21, 2013 5:13 AM in response to Tanzanite

Thanks for the suggestion! We have a list of international resellers on our store (here) but picking it up in person is definitely an advantage for folks visiting the USA. Drop us a note (support at bad elf dot com) with your cities and we'll do our best to point you to a local resellers. Typically they are aviation and marine-related specialty shops.


Best regards,

Brett

Nov 25, 2013 8:36 AM in response to argsdtdfshftdghj

Because Bad Elf accessories are certified under Apple's MFi program, they work with any location-based app in the App Store. The only catch is that not all apps are designed to be used offline (ie: without Wi-Fi or cellular connectivity), including Apple's Maps and Google Maps apps. The apps listed on our website are user-reported apps that have good offline/cached map support.


Hope that helps!


-Brett

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