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which gps receiver is working on iPad mini

I like to use my iPad mini (WIFI only) with offline maps with a bluetooth gps receiver.

Technical this could work. but ..

Apple seems to have blocked GPS receiver bluetooth use on the newest iPads. WHY ??

Is there a bluetooth GPS receiver that works ?

Hope to get some good answers.

iPad mini-OTHER, iOS 6.1, wifi only model

Posted on Feb 12, 2013 9:55 AM

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Posted on Jun 21, 2013 2:31 AM

I'm definitely interested in GPS for my wi-fi only iPad Mini. And I'm very interested in the Bad Elf. Maybe not the Pro model, but there's a cheaper one, I believe that still provides a GPS signal to the iPad.


But I've got a couple of questions, especially targeted at Brett if you're still out there!


Mainly, my question is: does this device provide "location information" generally, to all apps that use location services? Or does it only supply GPS location information to apps custom designed for it?


Garmin's GLO seems to be promoted for use with Garmin apps, for instance, and you can't get a clear idea of what else, if anything, could get position information from it.


I've got a trusty old Garmin Mobile 10 Bluetooth GPS. My Mac's bluetooth can recognize it and pair with it, but niether of my iOS6 devices (iPhone 4 & iPad Mini) can see it. So it must have an older BT protocol? My understanding is that it puts out NMEA protocol position data, and only certain apps can use that. But I can't find any technical info on either the Bad Elf OR the Garmin GLO about what format(s?) the position info is in or what apps can use it. Makes me a bit nervous about laying out my $99.

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Dec 1, 2013 8:55 PM in response to BrettAtBadElf

BrettAtBadElf wrote:


Thanks for the suggestion! We have a list of international resellers on our store (here) but picking it up in person is definitely an advantage for folks visiting the USA. Drop us a note (support at bad elf dot com) with your cities and we'll do our best to point you to a local resellers. Typically they are aviation and marine-related specialty shops.


Best regards,

Brett


And thats a shame that you havnt any Australian Distributors, soooo, before i go and buy something from your US store Brett, just some clarification please, on what are the main differences in the Bad Elf GPS Pro and the Bad Elf GPS w/ Lightening Connector . . Apart from connecting with Bluetooth and having a screen to look at.

I have MudMaps 2 a Australian Work Offline App with Cached Maps. Apart from it protruding out from the connection and becoming a hazard when 4WDing is there a great difference either way for me ??

The Lightening Connector im not going to need Bluetooth ?/ Correct ?? As with the Pro i will ?? Yes ??

Im reading the Spec's on these and they seem to be the Same GPS Reciever apart from the things i have mentioned, a Screen with info and Bluetooth connectivity, am i right in what im reading ??


Look forward to a response so i can order one and have it here in Australia for the Christmas Holidays and some Off Roading in the harshest environment on Earth 🙂

Cheers mate

Dec 2, 2013 4:31 AM in response to TattooedMac

Hello! We've had some customers report good results with MudMaps too. We do have one distributor (http://www.ozpilot.com.au/) that covers Australia, not sure if they have inventory locally or ship from the UK.


The GPS Pro has more standalone functionality since it has its own battery (16-32hrs): a built-in datalogger (>100Hrs @ 1Hz), can share the GPS data with up to 5 Apple devices over Bluetooth at the same time, and can be placed anywhere in the vehicle to get the best lock. It's also IPX4-rated if you want to take it out hiking with or without your iPhone/iPad. It does require Bluetooth to be enabled on your Apple device.


The GPS dongle (for Lightning or Dock Connector) is great for mobile applications, but you're more limited when it comes to sky visibility, case compatability, etc. The advantages over the GPS Pro are the GPS+GLONASS reception (the GPS Pro is GPS only), no pairing/configuration, and no batteries to charge.


The real answer is that you need both! ;-) Seriously though, either model should work well for off-roading. If you want to do other outdoor activities I'd say the GPS Pro is the best choice since it can be used standalone.


I hope that helps!


Best regards,

Brett

Dec 7, 2013 3:24 AM in response to BrettAtBadElf

Brett mate, i thank you for clearing that up for me, and i have now got the Bad Elf Pro on its way here and it was even a good price here Down Under.

It will go well with Mud Maps 2 (Glad you have heard good feedback on that) and once i have tested it out, ill leyt you know how i go with it.

Cant give you a ✓Solved My Problem, But kudos to you mate, and the links you supplied. Hand helds seemed it was a off shore Company, so i went with Oz Pilot people as they are based here and i can get it in 2 days express delivery, but thanks again.

Bookmarked as i'll be back 🙂


Cheers


PS : Ill stay away from the 2 for now as well, even though im tempted just for pin point accuracy, as its easy to get lost in the back country we have here . .

Dec 30, 2013 9:55 AM in response to BrettAtBadElf

Brett,

Thanks for recommending several competitor products thereby letting the products speak for themselves. Yours does look best.


Any concerns about your product that plugs into the lightning connector due to extra "leverage" that could be out onto your device which could break the Apple or BadElf connector if you accidentally bump the device either forwards or backwards when picking up or putting the iPad down?

Dec 30, 2013 10:20 AM in response to Allen RS

Hi Allen,


Glad you've found this thread helpful!


Damange from the dongle sticking out is a common concern, although in reality it's been a non-issue. We've only had a few customers (in ~4 years) who have damaged their Bad Elf GPS dongle, usually after they drop their entire iPad from considerable height (ouch!) with the accessory connected. Both the 30-pin and Lightning versions are designed to either dislodge or break before doing damage to the iOS device. The MFi program includes these types of stress tests.


The dongle design certainly has both strong pros (no configuration needed, no batteries to charge) and cons (sticks out, pulls power from the iOS device, case compatability), so it really comes down to personal preference when considering plug-in vs. Bluetooth. Most apps support rotation, making it easy to use the iPad/iPhone with the dock connector pointing in whatever direction provides the most protection/clearance for your particular use-case.


Hope that helps!

-Brett

Jan 19, 2014 9:37 PM in response to BrettAtBadElf

Hello,

I have an iPad mini w/os7 and I bought the bad elf lightning. It is constantly shutting down, and when I use it in co-pilot and wingx-pro it will stop giving gps position, I have to unplug it and close the programs. It does it if I just bad elf program alone as well. It won't acquire satellite. We used it outside today trying to geocache and it kept shutting off. NOT acceptable if I am flying, I have just been getting familiar with the program Wingx Pro before I fly and I will not use this if it keeps doing this. Is it the Bad Elf? Or something else? Why does this device shut itself off when it is open and running? It does it in all apps.

Jan 20, 2014 8:52 AM in response to lidsmith

We might be dealing with a spam filter or other similar issue. Try sending me an email directly (brett at ...) and also leave a comment on our blog with your email address (I will moderate/delete it, so it won't go live).


Report back here if you haven't heard back from us later today after doing the 2 things above. Sorry we don't have a incoming support phone number -- just isn't feasible with our distributed team -- but we can call you if needed.


Thanks!

-Brett

Jan 29, 2014 6:46 AM in response to BrettAtBadElf

HI Brett, I just tripped over and landed in this string. We are off to the Mediterranean in a months time to sail someone's yacht to Greece for them. I have purchase Navionics Gold and put it on my wifes Ipad Air wifi only and also on to my ipad4 ipad+cellular+MM(whatever that means.) My ipad 4 GPS works fine. We have been through the 'can I use my old bluetooth GPS?' and the 'why can't my ipads or iphones see the old blue tooth GPS?' and now understand from your previous strings that it is to do with MFi. Totally content so far.


My question to you (at long last :-))

Can I hook my wife's ipad air (wifi only) by blue tooth to my ipad 4 (with cellular and therefore GPS) and let her device share my GPS information?


I am seriously contemplating a blue tooth BadElf as well but if I can get away without it for this time.......


Hope you can advise.

Many thanks

Steve

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