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which gps receiver is working on iPad mini

I like to use my iPad mini (WIFI only) with offline maps with a bluetooth gps receiver.

Technical this could work. but ..

Apple seems to have blocked GPS receiver bluetooth use on the newest iPads. WHY ??

Is there a bluetooth GPS receiver that works ?

Hope to get some good answers.

iPad mini-OTHER, iOS 6.1, wifi only model

Posted on Feb 12, 2013 9:55 AM

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Posted on Jun 21, 2013 6:59 AM

Hello! Yes -- both the Bad Elf and GLO provide the raw NMEA data to iOS, which then distributes the location data via Location Services to any and all apps that request it. Assuming the user has granted permission to the app of course.


Only GPS accessories that are MFi approved will work with iOS devices -- that is why your older Garmin unit doesn't appear in the Settings>Bluetooth dialog.


I hope that helps!

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Jan 20, 2014 8:52 AM in response to lidsmith

We might be dealing with a spam filter or other similar issue. Try sending me an email directly (brett at ...) and also leave a comment on our blog with your email address (I will moderate/delete it, so it won't go live).


Report back here if you haven't heard back from us later today after doing the 2 things above. Sorry we don't have a incoming support phone number -- just isn't feasible with our distributed team -- but we can call you if needed.


Thanks!

-Brett

Jan 29, 2014 6:46 AM in response to BrettAtBadElf

HI Brett, I just tripped over and landed in this string. We are off to the Mediterranean in a months time to sail someone's yacht to Greece for them. I have purchase Navionics Gold and put it on my wifes Ipad Air wifi only and also on to my ipad4 ipad+cellular+MM(whatever that means.) My ipad 4 GPS works fine. We have been through the 'can I use my old bluetooth GPS?' and the 'why can't my ipads or iphones see the old blue tooth GPS?' and now understand from your previous strings that it is to do with MFi. Totally content so far.


My question to you (at long last :-))

Can I hook my wife's ipad air (wifi only) by blue tooth to my ipad 4 (with cellular and therefore GPS) and let her device share my GPS information?


I am seriously contemplating a blue tooth BadElf as well but if I can get away without it for this time.......


Hope you can advise.

Many thanks

Steve

Mar 5, 2014 5:58 AM in response to orbje

Just to clarify the situation, since there seems a lot of confusion on this topic:


All Apple's devices with built-in GPS make use of assisted-GPS, relying on triangulation from phone masts. Without that, the cut-down GPS chip in the 'G' models will not give a very accurate fix. This may not be critical in a car, but it sure is if (like me) you are using your iPad to navigate at sea and want to avoid hitting the rocks!


So, in a nutshell, if you have a wi-fi-only iPad, or a GPS iPhone/iPad that you want to use for mountain hiking, sailing or flying (ie places without phone masts) then you need an additional GPS module.


As has been stated, not all GPS modules are compatible, as there is a lot of random kit out there - as with apps, Apple tries to protect consumer by vetting, and setting down standards (and no, I don't work for them!).


As well as the BadElf range, the GNS 2000 is also compatible. They will both give you a very accurate fix. There may be others out there, too.

Mar 5, 2014 6:44 AM in response to write on

write on wrote:


Just to clarify the situation, since there seems a lot of confusion on this topic:


All Apple's devices with built-in GPS make use of assisted-GPS, relying on triangulation from phone masts.


That is not how aGPS works. The GPS chipset in the iPhone or in the wifi+cellular iPads is fully capable of standalone location determination, out of range of any wifi nodes or cellular antennae.


All the "assisted" part of aGPS does is speed up the time to an accurate location fix, by using wifi node information or cell tower data. Without any wifi or cell tower data, the aGPS system in an iOS device works like any other standalone GPS receiver, but it will take longer to get a stable and accurate location fix.


Lots of people use their iPhones off grid and get very good, accurate and reliable location fixes from satellite data alone.

Mar 6, 2014 4:17 PM in response to Michael Black

New to the cellular ipad, and was wondering... if it can be used without a sim, and without wifi? I have tried it using apple maps or google maps, however, when I enter an address it gives me a "no network connection" error.


Is there a third party app required to make the GPS function on a cellular ipad that has no sim or data plan in it?



Thanks for any clarification in advance.

Mar 6, 2014 4:37 PM in response to Kkanuck

Kkanuck wrote:


New to the cellular ipad, and was wondering... if it can be used without a sim, and without wifi? I have tried it using apple maps or google maps, however, when I enter an address it gives me a "no network connection" error.


Is there a third party app required to make the GPS function on a cellular ipad that has no sim or data plan in it?



Thanks for any clarification in advance.



Both Apple maps app and the Google Maps app require a data connection - either cellular or wifi. They stream their map data in real time, so without a data connection, they have nothing to display.


If you wish to use any iOS device without a live data connection for displaying map location information, you need to get an app that includes the map data as part of the app download package. That way the map data is stored locally on your device. Apps like TomTom's or Garmin's app work this way - the maps are always available on your device itself, so no data connection is necessary.


The way any app gets location information is it has to request it through the iOS's Location Services. Only iOS itself can actually access the GPS chip and other location information. Location services actually hands the location fix information to the requesting app to display on its image data. So then the only issue you have is does the app get its display data in real time from an remote server, or does it allow you to download the display data and store it in the app itself.

Mar 6, 2014 5:51 PM in response to Kkanuck

FWIW, as I've posted earlier, I used a wi-fi only iPad Mini, a Bad Elf Pro gps, and a rented mobile celluar/wi-fi hotspot to navigate around Ireland by car for 3 weeks this past Fall. It worked beautifully! After doing a little bit of comparison shopping, Co-Pilot (w. onboard, ie. downloaded maps) was the iPad App I chose and I could not have been more pleased. It was a LOT more user friendly and flexible than the Garmin standalone unit I use at home.

The mobile wi-fi hotspot I rented was from travelwifi.com, a Dublin based outfit that delivered the device to my first night hotel. They were superb to deal with and the performance of their device was excellent. Their devices do work throughout UK and a lot of the countries of Europe (but NOT France as I recall) and they will deliver by mail if you're not going to be in Ireland.

Apr 10, 2014 9:57 AM in response to willyjp

Can someone recommend the correct external GPS receiver for my needs.

I have an iTouch rev4 with 30pin connector, and also an iPad Air with lightning connector.

They are both WiFi my, no cellular.

I would like to use the iTouch and on occasions the iPad for driving navigation, and the I Touch for off-road hiking.

Any advice welcome.

which gps receiver is working on iPad mini

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