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Goldenbill Author

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eMac Gray Screen Problem

My eMac G4, 56G, 3.3, Power, 512mgRAM, wouldn't boot yesterday. I came here to find a solution and found this info:

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BDAqua

This helped meRe: I'm having problem at startup with my emac

Dec 23, 2012 10:34 AM (in response to filgisher)

One way to test is to Safe Boot from the HD, (holding Shift key down at bootup), run Disk Utility in Applications>Utilities, then highlight your drive, click on Repair Permissions, Test for problem in Safe Mode...

PS. Safe boot may stay on the gray radian for a long time, let it go, it's trying to repair the Hard Drive

Reboot, test again.

If it only does it in Regular Boot, then it could be some hardware problem like Video card, (Quartz is turned off in Safe Mode), or Airport, or some USB or Firewire device, or 3rd party add-on, Check System Preferences>Accounts>Login Items window to see if it or something relevant is listed.

Check the System Preferences>Other Row, for 3rd party Pref Panes.

Also look in these if they exist, some are invisible...

/private/var/run/StartupItems

/Library/StartupItems

/System/Library/StartupItems

/System/Library/LaunchDaemons

/Library/LaunchDaemons

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I had run the PRAM reboot with no help. Then I did the Safe Boot, Utility Permissions check/repair, UP check/repair Disk (just for insurance as it was not mentioned in the above instructions) and when I rebooted it came up just fine. What a relief, however, I'd like to find out what caused the problem to begin with.

I'd been having trouble with FireFox so had opened a long neglected Thunderbird Mail App and discovered I had 257 emails in my In Box. Could this have been the problem?

I'm going to do the Check described in the second section of the above instructions just to see what it offers. Any Input on the TB app is appreciated.

.....goldie

iMac, Mac OS X (10.6.8), 2T 3.33GHz Intel2 4G-Ram

Posted on Mar 8, 2013 9:57 AM

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BDAqua

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Posted on Mar 8, 2013 10:05 AM

Hi Goldie! 🙂

Then I did the Safe Boot, Utility Permissions check/repair, UP check/repair Disk (just for insurance as it was not mentioned in the above instructions) and when I rebooted it came up just fine.

The forst thing Safe Boot does, while the radian is spinning, is attempt a Disk Repair, so I think it did repair the Disk Directory & that was the whole problem.

I had 257 emails in my In Box. Could this have been the problem?

Not directly, no.

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Goldenbill Author

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Mar 16, 2013 12:35 PM in response to BDAqua

You asked me to note any repetitive messages. Now that my head is not in such a daze from looking at so many logs, I find that in the Console Message Log there are lots of them such as: ---"NOTE: child process received 'Goodbye', closing down (usually without an interjected "Couldn't find any matches", as in this one case of FIVE instances.) ---"*** WARNING: Method selectRow:byExtendingSelection: in class IZCustomTableView is deprecated. It will be removed in a future release and should no longer be used. (As far as I know I was not informed of this depreciation.) ---Followed by 63 (SixtyThree) with ImageZone as sender. --This is followed by an Vast number of uncounted (must I?) number of "ImageEdit" as Sender. ---The first message being "APP1: Warning, ---The second message being "unknown field with tag xxxxx (xxxxxx) in private subdirectory ignored". The following "vast number" of messages contain this same warning with semi-cronological numbers. =========== Date & Time---3/13/13 4:35:39 AM Sender---Automator[1602] Message---The action “Apply SQL” could not be loaded because the application “Xcode” was not found. ---- There was a continual list of this "Date&Time", "Sender" with the following "Messages" (the … and …. are indications of my exclusion of repetitive phrases) …."Build Xcode Project" …application "Xcode" was not found. ---"Convert CSD to SQL" ...application "Xcode" was not found. ---"Create Package" …"PackageMaker"…. ---"CVS Add" …"/usr/bin/cvs"…. ---"CVS Update" …"/usr/bin/cvs"…. ---"Execute SQL" …""Xcode" ….. There are eight more of these in this group, all indicating a different file being accessed. The final one of this group being: 3/13/13 4:35:39 AM Automator[1602] The action “Stop Keynote Slideshow” could not be loaded because the application “Keynote” was not found. ========== They must be putting something in that Tea, my head is spinning again and I'm going to have to close this Rabbit Den once again, Yes I will return, but who knows when.

Goldenbill Author

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Mar 16, 2013 2:43 PM in response to Goldenbill

I worked very hard making this information readable and when I tried to use html it came up with this mess. I thought I'd erased that and entered my readable version but it seems Apple prefers gibberish.😟

Goldenbill Author

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Mar 16, 2013 2:45 PM in response to Goldenbill

You asked me to note any repetitive messages. Now that my head is not in such a daze from looking at so many logs, I find that in the Console Message Log there are lots of them such as:

---"NOTE: child process received 'Goodbye', closing down (usually without an interjected "Couldn't find any matches", as in this one case of FIVE instances.)

---"*** WARNING: Method selectRow:byExtendingSelection: in class IZCustomTableView is deprecated. It will be removed in a future release and should no longer be used. (As far as I know I was not informed of this depreciation.)

---Followed by 63 (SixtyThree) with ImageZone as sender.

--This is followed by an Vast number of uncounted (must I?) number of

"ImageEdit" as Sender.

---The first message being "APP1: Warning,

---The second message being "unknown field with tag xxxxx (xxxxxx) in private subdirectory ignored". The following "vast number" of messages contain this

same warning with semi-cronological numbers.

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Date & Time---3/13/13 4:35:39 AM

Sender---Automator[1602]

Message---The action “Apply SQL” could not be loaded because the application “Xcode” was not found.

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There was a continual list of this "Date&Time", "Sender" with the following

"Messages"

(the … and …. are indications of my exclusion of repetitive phrases)

…."Build Xcode Project" …application "Xcode" was not found.

---"Convert CSD to SQL" ...application "Xcode" was not found.

---"Create Package" …"PackageMaker"….

---"CVS Add" …"/usr/bin/cvs"….

---"CVS Update" …"/usr/bin/cvs"….

---"Execute SQL" …""Xcode" …..

There are eight more of these in this group, all indicating a different file being accessed.

The final one of this group being: 3/13/13 4:35:39 AM Automator[1602] The action “Stop Keynote Slideshow” could not be loaded because the application “Keynote” was not found.

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They must be putting something in that Tea, my head is spinning again and I'm going to have to close this Rabbit Den once again, Yes I will return, but who knows when.

BDAqua

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Mar 16, 2013 3:37 PM in response to Goldenbill

There was a continual list of this "Date&Time", "Sender" with the following "Messages" (the … and …. are indications of my exclusion of repetitive phrases) …."Build Xcode Project" …application "Xcode" was not found.

OK, have you been trying to use Automator or Xcode?

Check System Preferences>Accounts>Login Items window to see if it or something relevant is listed.

Goldenbill Author

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Mar 16, 2013 6:12 PM in response to BDAqua

I've never used either one of them. I don't know what XCode is and Automator is too complicated for me, I don't do much repetitive stuff.

I did open them recently when I was looking for something. I'm pretty sure I closed them immediately though.

Here's a copy of my Login Items. You'll notice HP Scheduler has been checked. I don't know how, I've never opened this window, "Preferences Accounts".

I haven't used Kodak ES for months, I broke my Kodak camera and now have a Nikon.

That RealPlayer is a bugaboo for me. It's constantly downloading stuff and I'm constantly clearing them out and closing the app. I'm afraid to Trash the app as I think it downloads stuff Adobe is supposed to download.

I hate Adobe, it's forever trying to take over my files. I must have trashed it a dozen times but am constantly reloading it because it's the only way I can see a file I'm interested in.

BDAqua

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Mar 17, 2013 10:47 AM in response to Goldenbill

OK, in that Login items window, checkboxes do nothing teally, to remove the ones you don't want, highlight it then click the tiny minus icon below, reboot after removing the ones you don't want running anymore at startup.

Goldenbill Author

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Mar 28, 2013 8:58 AM in response to BDAqua

Finally got this done.

I also remembered Pondini, the Mac Tips Page you suggested in a previous thread and found this great tute on logs which has cleared up much of the fog I've been in since trying to read those logs.

http://pondini.org/OSX/Logs.html

I hope this is the end of this thread 😐

Thanks again, BD

.....goldie

BDAqua

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Mar 29, 2013 10:40 AM in response to Goldenbill

Thanks, hadn't seen that, but Pondini never ceases to amaze me with his great work! 🙂

eMac Gray Screen Problem