The clipboard converts JPG data to TIFF

Mail only sends the attachments it is given. JPEG is not appropriate for a screen capture. Furthermore, there is nothing wrong with a TIF. If PC users can't read TIF files, and they can, that's their problem.

PS: You are not speaking to Apple. This is a user-to-user support forum.

Mail only sends the attachments it is given.

This is why I think the system should but in the clipboard whatever is specified in screen capture system wide preferences entry

JPEG is not appropriate for a screen capture.

Says who ? If you're talking about compression artifacts, I can tell you, me and millions of people think it is perfectly acceptable !

Furthermore, there is nothing wrong with a TIF.

You mean, despite the fact anyone exchanging images are using JPEG or PNG... like... in the real world ?

Oh yeah... TIF has better quality than JPEG, so what ?

If PC users can't read TIF files, and they can, that's their problem.

Yes they certainly work around this and save the image in some way (weel, di you ever try to exctract an inline attachment from Lotus Notes ? Maybe even Outlook as issues with that), and use Paint or IE to see the file...

I could toss a can of food to my dog, He'll certainly manage to open it before dying, but what's the point if I can open it for him ?

PS: You are not speaking to Apple. This is a user-to-user support forum.

This makes sense... but out of frustration, it is sometime a good place to rant as long as you keep polite and respect others :-) Apple gets hundreds of bug reports a day, most of them won't be fixed before years (my own experience) so it may be good to use an alternative, this is how people get desperate some times :-)

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This is why I think the system should but in the clipboard whatever is specified in screen capture system wide preferences entry

You think screen capture preferences should dictate systemwide settings for the clipboard? I'm guessing you don't work for Apple 🙂

Says who ? If you're talking about compression artifacts, I can tell you, me and millions of people think it is perfectly acceptable !

Millions, eh? Name them.

You mean, despite the fact anyone exchanging images are using JPEG or PNG... like... in the real world ?

Oh yeah... TIF has better quality than JPEG, so what ?

Anyone exchanging images? Who died and made you world emporer?

Yes they certainly work around this and save the image in some way (weel, di you ever try to exctract an inline attachment from Lotus Notes ? Maybe even Outlook as issues with that), and use Paint or IE to see the file...

I could toss a can of food to my dog, He'll certainly manage to open it before dying, but what's the point if I can open it for him ?

What do your dog's nutrition problems have to do with e-mail?

This makes sense... but out of frustration, it is sometime a good place to rant as long as you keep polite and respect others :-) Apple gets hundreds of bug reports a day, most of them won't be fixed before years (my own experience) so it may be good to use an alternative, this is how people get desperate some times :-)

No, this is never a good place to rant. I will quote the Apple Support Communities Terms of Use that you agreed to follow when you joined: "If your Submission contains the phrase "I'm sorry for the rant, but…" you are likely in violation of this policy."

Nobody cares about pasting clipboad content into e-mail. That is why this thread languished for almost a month until you resurrected it. Anyone who needs to take many screen captures and quickly send them off to technology-challenged PC users is free to pick one of the many screen capture programs in the Mac App Store that makes that process easy.

You think screen capture preferences should dictate systemwide settings for the clipboard? I'm guessing you don't work for Apple 🙂

Yes, I'm talking about "defaults read com.apple.screencapture type", and the fact that the application should get to choose what format to store in the pasteboard. But Apple is so clever, and say that an image should always be stored as TIFF, well, I guess the client applications has to be clever++, and use a format that actually makes sense in the context.

Millions, eh? Name them.

Really ? Can you imagine how many people are enjoying DVDs on big HD flat TV and thinking how great it is ? or sending thumbnails of pictures because it is "ok on the screen" ? No, people are not that picky on quality, and reasonable compression value is oerfectly usable.

Anyone exchanging images? Who died and made you world emporer?

Just go out and see the real world. People are using JPG or PNG to send pictures to each other, period. I'm not talking about professionals. I'll even be bold and say that Facebook the not even accepts TIFF for posts, and even if they do, they are not going to present it in the time line. (But, yeah, I guess Facebook *****, and no, I' not going to name FB's how-many-millions users).

What do your dog's nutrition problems have to do with e-mail?

I don't have a dog. That was a figure of speach, for the sake of the argument... I guess you didn't get that.

No, this is never a good place to rant. I will quote the Apple Support Communities Terms of Use that you agreed to follow when you joined: "If your Submission contains the phrase "I'm sorry for the rant, but…" you are likely in violation of this policy."

Nobody cares about pasting clipboad content into e-mail. That is why this thread languished for almost a month until you resurrected it. Anyone who needs to take many screen captures and quickly send them off to technology-challenged PC users is free to pick one of the many screen capture programs in the Mac App Store that makes that process easy.

Ok, I guess the only answer to this is : OK ! (Please don't send the cops)

thank you for metioning that

i'd also like to share you something concerning convert jpg data to tiff vb.net. first screen capture the image and then import to a software. this is where you are going to do all the decent job.

Your link is for Windows. To convert on your Mac, you can simply open the JPEG in Preview and save a copy as a TIFF. If you have a bunch, use Automator to batch process them.

I agree with the OP. I can kind of see the point of the purists above (before this thread devolved into a ******* match about starving dogs and world domination), but using a nice screen capture tool like ShareBucket (or just the Shift+Cmd+Cntrl+4) to save a screenshot to the clipboard, if I want to get inline images to show up properly on Windows machines (which 99% of my clients run), then I have to take a screen shot, save it to desktop in PNG or some other format, and as I'm composing my mail, drag/insert them to where I want them to be. This is more work, and more cumbersome than being able to simply keep it on the clipboard and paste it (which I can't do, because of the TIFF format not showing up for my clients).

Just sayin'....

By default, OS X saves screen shots in PNG format.

Kurt, we've been through this already didn't we ?

Just clarifying for therealcbar. His post says that he needs to translate screen shots from TIFF to PNG or other format before he can send them to clients. Unless he, or some third party app he installed changed a system setting, screen shots are not TIFFs. They already are PNG format.

My apologies. I was wrong about the Shift+Cmd+Cntrl+4 which does do it as a PNG. I checked the clipboard contents using Finder to verify.

So it is Sharebucket that is causing the problem. Sorry. 🙂

Ok I see. This is a Apple Mail issue indeed

That's weird. I wonder why Sharebucket is changing the format? And to TIFF, no less. So it's taking a lossless compressed format (PNG), and actually making it larger as an uncompressed TIFF. Seems like a waste of server space to me by increasing the size of files.

Though what may be happening is Sharebucket is converting the files to a compressed TIFF, which can be done in ZIP, JPEG, or LZW encoding. Any of these may be throwing off Windows, or at least the email app in use since it sees a TIFF, but isn't accounting for it being compressed, so it doesn't display.

There is something linked to the image provider but that doesn't mean Apple Mail is doing what it should.

Using Copy/paste from Skitch : you get a PNG in Mail

Sharebucket : looks like you get a TIFF in Mail

Screen Capture shortcut : TIFF in mail

So it is unclear where the problem is, maybe Skitch uses a different method to send the data to the pasteboard but I have the feeling that maybe screen capture should behave like Skitch, or Apple Mail should default to a better suitable default format, converting if needed