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Reporting Apple Maps problems too difficult

I want to relay my recent experience with reporting maps problems in Apple Maps and Google Maps. Perhaps Apple can learn from this.


A couple months ago, the local on/off ramps to a major Interstate going through my town was moved 1/4 mile down the road. Both Google Maps and Apple Maps weren't aware of it yet and still showed the old on/off ramps. Being the good Apple citizen that I am, I tried to report the problem to Apple Maps first. Tapped the "Report A Problem" and was confronted with 5 choices: (1) Search Results are incorrect, (2) Street or other label is incorrect, (3)Location is missing, (4) Problem with directions, and (5) My Problem isn't listed." Which one do YOU think I should pick? I tried (2) and hit NEXT. This caused me to go back to the map with the instruction to tap the incorrectly labeled street or feature. Only problem is that it didn't let me tap on either the old on-ramp (maybe because it didn't have a label?) or the empty field where the new ramp was! So I tried (3). It then asked me for the complete street address! But this is an on-ramp - it doesn't have a street address! So frustrating - I gave up.


Then I went to Google Maps, tapped on the old on-ramp and clicked "Report Problem". One of the choices was "Road Closed". I picked that and was given a text box in which to enter any additional helpful details. I did. It also offered to notify me when this problem was resolved. I opted for it. Done. Within minutes I received an email from Google Maps thanking me for the report.


Four weeks later, I received another email from Google Maps - this time to let me know that my report was reviewed and accepted and that Google Maps will be updated shortly to reflect my suggested change.


Now - that's a good experience! Makes you want to help more! But I really wanted my Apple Maps to be correct, so I tried to report the issue again. This time, I picked (5) - "My problem isn't listed" and hit NEXT. All I got is a text box and a "Send" button. I dutifully entered the information about the problem and hit "Send". No acknowledgement, no offer to let me know when it'll get fixed. Nothing. In other words - the typical Apple response to user-reported issues :-(


I have no idea how Apple expects to ever catch up to Google Maps if they can't even make the problem reporting fast and easy - or encouraging, for that matter!

iPhone 5, iOS 6.0.2

Posted on Mar 22, 2013 11:30 AM

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Nov 22, 2013 12:54 PM in response to tjwolf

I believe part of the problem is finger pointing between Apple and Tom Tom.


If I understand the process correctly, Tom Tom provides the map data but the navigation app is designed by Apple. So apple is saying the map data is incorrect and Tom Tom replies that the Apple Maps app isn't using the map data properly. Corrections to the map probably bounce back and forth between the two entities.


In google's case, they own the app and the map data. Regardless of whether the problem is with the app or the map, they have both parts and are likely in a better position to collaboratively work to develop a solution to problems.


As to the lack of acknowledgement with reporting the issue, that is truly poor customer service. AT&T sends an acknowledgement with text or email when you submit a network problem on their cell work with the Mark the Spot app. They also send out a text / email when a fix has been put into place for issue reported. If AT&T, not at the top of the customer service heap, knows to do that basic customer follow-up, there is no excuse for Apple neglecting it.

Nov 22, 2013 2:46 PM in response to Beebes68

Apple definitely provides the map/navigation app and TomTom the map data. But I'm not sure how finger-pointing figures into the problem of the map data being wrong/out-of-date. That is clearly a data issue. I could understand your point if the issue were Apple navigating incorrectly despite correct map data.


But at the core, the problem does have a lot to do with coordination (or lack thereof). Not only does Apple depend on an outside vendor for its map data (TomTom), but it's also dependent on one for business data - Yelp, I believe. That, too, causes endless issues (e.g. Yelp telling Apple a business is at latitude/longitude x/y - when it's actually at y/z). Pointing out the problem in Apple Maps is just as futile as pointing out map data problems :-(


*** Apple, would it kill you to acknowledge problem reports and - if you're feeling generous - to let us know when something is fixed??? One of these days, I'm gonna get off my duff and ask that question on their FB or Twitter page....who knows - maybe public shaming will work?

Dec 17, 2013 9:47 AM in response to tjwolf

My street is labeled incorrectly, I've been trying over a year to get it changed. I've sent reports at least twice monthly through Apple Maps & I've also sent emails to Apple Support. Nothing helps.


We had guests from out of town who got confused because my street didn't exist when they typed it in as destination. I had to tell them the name of the street that Apple Maps has listed as my street. They were also using Apple Maps. This should not be happening.


I've looked on my husbands Google Maps & our street is correct. I've never downloaded Google Maps because I really wanted to use only Apple Maps. Tom Tom doesn't pay any attention to reports sent in & Apple says you won't get a response from them..it's just sad that they don't care enough about Maps to fix what's wrong.

Feb 23, 2014 9:00 AM in response to Javababe

My street two. I reported it when Apple Maps was first launched, and it's still wrong.


What's worse is that if you supply a Postcode and the correct street name, Apple Maps ignores the postcode completely and simply finds the nearest street with the same name.


In my case, the street name is shown as Smith's Grove when it should be Smith Grove. I have my correct full address in Contacts, but Apple Maps directs me to a location 50 miles from my house (where there happens to be another Smith Grove).


Google Maps had the same problem, but after I submitted a report, it was fixed in 2 weeks! However, to be fair to Apple, Google own all their own map data, whereas Apple have theirs supplied to them from a variety of external sources.


When you think about it: what power do Apple have to make changes? I expect they have very little influence indeed, which is why it's a shame their inferior mapping app is the default in iOS7.


Which brings me to a question: remember when Microsoft were dragged through the courts for supplying windows with a web browser (Internet Explorer) that had many advantages over competitors due to its integration within the operating system? How do Apple get away with similar tactics?

Feb 23, 2014 9:01 AM in response to tjwolf

tjwolf wrote:



*** Apple, would it kill you to acknowledge problem reports and - if you're feeling generous - to let us know when something is fixed??? One of these days, I'm gonna get off my duff and ask that question on their FB or Twitter page....who knows - maybe public shaming will work?


Apple do not have a Twitter or Facebook page. In fact Apple do not do social media at all, precisely to avoid the kind of tactic you were hoping to employ! :-)

Feb 23, 2014 9:06 AM in response to Beebes68

Beebes68 wrote:


I believe part of the problem is finger pointing between Apple and Tom Tom.


If I understand the process correctly, Tom Tom provides the map data but the navigation app is designed by Apple. So apple is saying the map data is incorrect and Tom Tom replies that the Apple Maps app isn't using the map data properly. Corrections to the map probably bounce back and forth between the two entities.


You can very quickly check who's to blame, by going to http://www.tomtom.com/mapshare/tools (and creating a free account to log in). Here you can see TomTom's current map data, and you can make corrections if you need to.


I did this to report my street name but, nearly 18 months later, it's still wrong in Apple Maps.

Feb 23, 2014 6:24 PM in response to m0thr4

Which brings me to a question: remember when Microsoft were dragged through the courts for supplying windows with a web browser (Internet Explorer) that had many advantages over competitors due to its integration within the operating system? How do Apple get away with similar tactics?

There are numerous reasons why this situation is diffeent, the most relevant one being that Apple, unlike Microsoft, does not enjoy a monopoly. MS Windows ran on ~90% of the world's computers. Not only did it give one of its applications (IE) unfair/preferential treatment over others (Netscape's browser) by bundling it with the OS, but it also "dumped" that application (i.e. sold it "below cost" - and, clearly, it being FREE, it was sold below cost) in order to drive the competitor out of business. Contrast this with today's situation: Yes, Apple defaults to its Maps app and there's no way to change it. But that has been the case since the iPhone came out! (The old Maps app, contrary to popular belief, was actually also Apple's app - it was just using Google's data then). It wasn't like Apple one day just decided to exclude others from being the default - it was always the case! And if the app writers and/or customers didn't like that, he (unlike MS Windows app writers), they can always go to a competitor.

Feb 28, 2014 1:13 PM in response to m0thr4

m0thr4, thanks for the suggestion to check TomTom's map source: http://www.tomtom.com/mapshare/tools

It's a little unintuitive to submit a correction, but I did so 2 days ago and today received a thank you email explaining that they checked and confirmed my business address innacuracy, and that it will be corrected in their next quarterly map release!!


I urge everyone with innaccurate data within Apple's Maps App to follow the link above and submit a report. Again, it's not as intuitive as it should be - you'll know when you've done it right though as it displays an unmistakable confirmation and an email follows quickly. Note: you must create a free account to submit errors or ommissions.


Not sure how quickly Apple intergrates TomTom's quarterly updates, but at least it's fixed for TomTom's hardware and other proactive parties that use TomTom mapping data.


Again, huge thanks!!


John G

Feb 28, 2014 1:51 PM in response to John Grzeskowiak

Sadly (for me at least), TomTom actually shows the on-ramp (exit 8 in NJ on Interstate 95) in the correct spot. I reported this problem in Apple Maps over a year ago - and just checked: the problem is still there. Apple shows the on-ramp where it used to be (west of I-95) and TomTom and Google show where it actually is (east of I-95).


So I can't really report anything to TomTom :-(

Apr 9, 2014 10:15 AM in response to tjwolf

The worst thing about apple maps for me Being in a smaller town, Medford Oregon.

If i do a search for a place, Say Target, you start to type TAR and it pulls up stuff 1000 miles away, then if you finish TARGET it will show targets 500 miles away, never listing the one of the parking lot i'm sitting in.

even when you start typing in the address it's wrong until you type in the city and state. It may or may Not show the one you are 500 ft from.

Also notices to turn and the map update often come well past the turn. Grrrrrrr.

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