iWeb Replacement

I owe Everweb and Rage an apology. I jumped the gun and was speaking out of great frustration. But Rage support have the patience of saints and we got my website to work perfectly. So thanks to Rage support and I withdraw my above rant in its entirety.

And apologize to everyone else who has read it.

I have 3 or 4 different sites in iWeb, and Yosemite may force me to upgrade. I upgraded my laptop to Yosemite this week, and it exhibits all kinds of strange behavior. I have trouble in the podcast entries page, the media bar behaves strangely, so I'm just not sure how much longer I can use it.

I'm mostly looking for something that's easy to subscribe to podcasts without submitting it to iTunes. Any suggestions?

Firstly, iWeb is not really free and never was, because to get it for "free", you had to buy some sort of Mac first, which is a little more expensive than $80.

Also, have you not read any of the other posts on this thread? EverWeb does do the same things as iWeb did, but it can do more and vastly more from within the application, unlike iWeb. You can enter SEO in EverWeb, use drop down menus, put in slide shows, use master pages, place PayPal apps on your page, use the built in contact form and lots more. You could do none of these things directly from within iWeb and you had to look at third party options for a lot of these things, such as drop down menus, SEO and contact forms.

Also, remember that iWeb is 5 years old and is no longer sold or supported, so there is definitely logic in switching to EverWeb - EverWeb is a supported product that is actively being updated all the time and can do all those things, such as drop down menus, SEO and contact forms from within the app and you don't need to use other things, so yes, there is most definitely logic in that, in that EverWeb can do all the same things as iWeb, but much more and all without having to leave the application, as you had to do in iWeb.

Looking though old posts on these forums is testament to that, as people asked for explanations of how to insert slide shows into iWeb and what needed to be uploaded to servers etc and what needed to be used to link the 2 together in iWeb - well, this can all be done very simply without all the fiddling around directly in EverWeb without anything extra.

Think on - it is time to leave iWeb behind and move on!

Yes, I agree that iWeb is "dated" and no longer supported, but until it doesn't run with a newer OS, I'm going to keep using it. What you say makes good sense, and I appreciate your time in responding. The simple truth is that I think $80 is too much. I'd go for $29.95 or something a little more appropriate.

I also use "Coda" if I want to do any detail html, Javascript or css type work. iWeb is just so easy and simple to use to build a really nice website in just a few minutes. I have 9 or 10 sites setup on MacHighway (who provides the SEO and more) and to keep them up to date using iWeb is a breeze.

So, some time in the future when iWeb stops working, I might have to shell out the dough, and EverWeb would most likely be my first choice.

Thank you.

JosTM wrote:

2015 now and iWeb still works fine on Yosemite and pages look good on IOS8 and Windows Explorer 11.

Let's see how long we can stay with iWeb...

Actually it doesn't work fine, as you can tell from all the people having problems with it here. Blogging has issues, some widgets do not work anymore etc...

If you haven't encountered these issues then you are one of the lucky ones. The real issue is that one day you'll update your operating system and iWeb simply won't launch or won't be able to load your project. Then you'll be in more of a panic and rush to get a replacement. Why not try to find the right replacement before you are at a critical time when you can't update your old site and have to recreate a new one as quickly as possible?

Just ask the people who tried to see how long they could stay with iWeb 08 which will not lunch on Yosemite. The same thing can happen to iWeb 09.

Have tried a trial copy of Everweb on a new macbook pro and find that it crashes constantly. Customer service is very responsive, but as yet it's unusuable to me since it is now crashing within 30-seconds of use. I have a large website with lots of photos and videos, so maybe it's made for smaller websites? In the 10-years or so I used iweb, it never once crashed, and it certainly seems like a much more robust platform than everweb.

This seems like a very dedicated company and I'm sure they will work out the bugs, but for now I've got to look for something else that is more robust and dependable.

No. iWeb IS free. I already have a Mac. When you buy the computer you actually get software with it (unlike some competitors). Also, I can't publish my websites to my hosting provider from EverWeb like I can with iWeb. I am NOT going to setup an account with Everweb just to publish, and why should I have to publish to a folder and ftp as a separate function. With iWeb I just select "publish" and it automatically FTPs my files to my provider (MacHighway) easily.

I resent Rage's attempt to force me to use their hosting If they were to make a version of their software that works like iWeb to let the user setup their provider of choice, then I might consider paying for the software, when (and if) iWeb doesn't work anymore.

Again, I don't like their marketing tacltics. This alone makes me not want to buy their product.

I agree. It appears there is some marketing going on in this forum. No matter how much you promote this product, it is NOT a replacement for iWeb. It could have been, had the company not tried to swindle people into paying for their hosting services.

You don't have to pay for hosting. You can buy the software without hosting and publish directly to an ftp server which is what I was doing for a while. Weebly. As suggested, does not allow you to publish to ftp, you must use their hosting.

Most of of the people recommending EverWeb here have been forum members for years, well before it was released and have spent a lot of time helping people with iWeb issues.

everweb is made by a company that has supported iweb for a very, very long time. It's highly recommended because of this and has been around for longer than most other web development tools.

Lets keep this discussion respectful and ensure that the proper information is posted as to not confuse other people.

I agree. Everweb support is very prompt and they are doing their best to rectify this problem. If you don't want to purchase hosting, they have a lesser priced product without it. I am very impressed so far with all the prompt support. I will repost when the crash situation gets rectified.

By talking about Weebly you are not comparing like with like and Weebly and EverWeb and other replacements and not the same at all.

With Weebly, it is an online builder and you must sign up for an account with Weebly and start building your site and when you publish your site you publish your site for free directly to the Weebly servers, so you have no control. It is very much like WordPress.com in this respect where you can create a totally free website if you then publish to the WordPress servers. You can upgrade for a fee and use a registered domain name with an account, but you have no control to be able to use an ftp application to upload your site folders to your site.

Weebly might be good if you want to create a quick and free website and you have not registered a domain name or purchased hosting of any description, but it is not the same as EverWeb or any other iWeb replacements because it works in a totally different way.

If you want to make comparisons, at least make fair ones and compare like with like.

It is not correct that you are forced into purchasing EverWeb hosting to be able to publish directly from EverWeb.

It is perfectly possible to purchase the standalone copy of EverWeb and then publish from within EverWeb directly to an ftp server without the need to publish your site to a folder or use Cyberduck to upload. This was one of the first things that Rage implemented in EverWeb because it was present in iWeb and so many people wanted it.

Rage has been around for a long time and also supported iWeb greatly when it was at its height with all its products developed for them, such as iWeb SEO and others. That is why folks are recommending EverWeb, because they have been around and know what they are doing when it comes to developing software that is a replacement for iWeb.

It's not quite correct that you must use Weebly's hosting services as it is also available for free through other service providers (iPage for instance). Yes, it's a template-based online builder, so some limitations, though in my mind far outweighed by ease of use & professional looking results. I have limited time and patience to futz around with this stuff, and so for me at least it was perfect.

I still swear by Freeway Express by a UK company called Softpress. I found the interface very similar to iWeb. I really wanted a WYSIWYG option but there are templates if you want. The plus to Freeway Express (Freeway Pro is overkill for my needs) is that the words are entered as HTML which means they are searchable. Sometimes iWeb inserts typed sections as an image meaning it's not searchable. You can also add keywords, lots of them.

I guess I can't paste a URL here but you can google Freeway Express Softpress and find it there. On the SUPPORT page you'll find some videos and also a link to their online forum, much like Apple's. Very helpful.

My iWeb finally stopped working right. The text that are links have become 'invisible' when online even though the link still works. When you change the text back to normal (not a link to anything), they appear when online.

Oh well. So much for El Capitan.