iWeb Replacement

I thionk it would be GREAT if Apple offered some version of iWeb as an App! They just need to update it a bit. In fact, it works now so wouldn't take much..

Mobile Me never went over. If it had then it would still be here. I never used it, and never used it to host a website.

iCloud COULD offer webhosting services.

Anyway, tco, I'm with you! Much rather have a website than a Facebook page. I hope Facebook goes the way of MySpace.

Thanks for the link Ethmoid . . I'll tell Apple they need to make a webpage app! Why not?

That is never going to happen. You can wish all you like, but it won't. It has been nearly 2 years now since Apple stopped selling and supporting iWeb and they also stopped shipping iLife with new Mac's, so the fact that it has been this length of time must be telling you something?

As I said before, MobileMe and iWeb went together with iWeb being developed for this purpose. It does not really matter whether iCloud could or could not offer web hosting. The fact is that it does not and never will now.

It is now time to get over yourself and just move on to the various alternatives out there such as EverWeb etc, that are being actively developed and updated.

Why not? Because it is not going to happen. Time to stop whining and move on!

Hey Ethmoid,

Why do YOU care if I want to dream about iWeb or something even better, being developed by Apple?

"Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do."

I'll dream if I want to. Thanks.

Figleef

I don't really care and you can dream, but it is just totally unrealistic.

Whining and going on about it really aint going to change anything, so why continue posting about something that is not going to change?

Dream on and move on!!

EverWeb is very similar to iWeb on the surface and it should be easy for former iWeb users to master the basics. It is far more advanced than iWeb in that it can produce web pages that load quickly in the browser and are easily found by search engines.

Obviously there is a learning curve since EverWeb has lots of features that iWeb users requested and didn't get.

It's hardly fair to to say that an app is not easy to use unless you have actually used it for a period of time and built a test site with a few pages to try out the features.

It would be more helpful to others if you could explain what you didn't like and any problems you had while trying to implement specific features.

Sorry, don't misunderstand me. Maybe the extended functionality is my issue. I need something easy to use, quick to learn. Sure Everweb may have enhancements, but since I have to invest more time to learn it, it has for me personally no advantages. The functionality portfolio of iWeb was sufficient for me.

One feature I e.g. miss is, publishing a website via ftp upload. This was easy in iWeb, but I didn't find this funcitonality in Everweb. Everweb provides a functionality to publish a site on the Everweb Server, when you pay for it.

Well, EverWeb is very easy to use and quick to learn - the interface is almost identical to iWeb with the Inspector icon etc.

EverWeb wins hands down, as it produces cleaner code and fewer files for css and javascript, whereas iWeb produced this css in a file for ever page, so you were overloaded with files and folders. The html snippet is better, injecting code directly into your page rather than displaying as an iFrame as iWeb did. You can also put SEO directly into your page in EverWeb which you could not do with iWeb, having to publish to a local folder and then use iWeb SEO instead.

One big thing is the ability to add drop down menus that iWeb never had and this has been great for me.

I'm still waiting for the text wrap for images though, but perhaps we will get that at a later date!

If you ever used iWeb 08, then you did not have the ftp feature and you had to publish to a folder and use an ftp programme to upload. I personally never used the ftp feature of iWeb, preferring to upload myself, so its no skin off my nose to upload using Cyberduck.

I really don't think that you will find anything easier or more intuitive as an alternative to iWeb than EverWeb, but look at the other alternatives out there - RapidWeaver, Sandvox, Freeway Pro/Express 6 and WebAcappella 4. These are other alternatives, but you may find that they have a steeper learning curve than EverWeb will have as it is the closest to iWeb in look and feel, just with more advanced features and cleaner code than iWeb ever had.

I quite like Webacappella (I haven't tried the others). It was easy to learn and I don't mind the interface. It delivers most things that iWeb did. The only annoying thing is that cropping of images doesn't seem possible, although resizing them works fine.

I completely understand your point of view in case all the features you mention are of value for you. For that reason EverWeb or other solutions may fulfill your needs.

My personal need is easy-to-use and reduce the steps to fulfill my work. E.g. having to move files manually by ftp does produce more manual steps, instead of just clicking "publish". Even though these may be only few steps for some users, for me every step to use a software is important.

Also the code geanerated by EverWeb or other solutions may by more reduced than the one from iWeb. Factually most users today have a broadband internet connection, or if they use mobile devices, at least 3G. Therefore some more lines don't really mind those users.

I think I will make use of my "money-back" guarantee for EverWeb and return the license.

Be careful who you are responding to - you meant to respond to my post rather than the other poster?

Also, that is a shame if you do get your money back for EverWeb, because they are adding new updates and features all the time to make it more efficient and I personally think that you will never find anything that is more like iWeb than this.

EverWeb does not crash for me and it should not if you are not using a beta testing version of EverWeb.

They are always working on bug fixes and this is what beta testing is for - they are working with 1.3 beta at present that inclues new features.

Yes, well that is all well and good for now, but come the next OS update that has been promised, you may find that iWeb no longer works - with each new OS update some things will not work and as iWeb has not been supported and is not and no longer receives updates, perhaps you need to make the change now to something else before you are forced to.

EverWeb is a good alternative and is very intuititve to use and is very much like iWeb in look and feel and will get better with each update that is released - the last version included Master Pages and they are always adding new things and all in all it has a lot of things included in it from the get go that iWeb never had and that people moaned about, such as drop down menus that EverWeb has, the ability to include SEO in your site without ever leaving it, a contact form widget and PayPal widget and lots more.

I would suggest that you start now before it is too late.

There are many people on this thread attempting to sell a product called Everweb or Easy web .

The fact is that iWeb is still vastly simpler and superior in every way to the "replacement" software being touted on this discussion thread.

I suggest people stick to iWeb and maybe use Multisite for iWeb and we will see if the rumours of a new improved iWeb app that integrates with the new Photos app in Yosemite are true ?

There are many people on this thread attempting to sell a product called Everweb or Easy web .

I don't think anyone here is trying to "sell" anything. Recommendations for alternatives to iWeb are being suggested because one day it could happen that iWeb simply refuses to launch on a future version of OS X. iWeb 08 will not work on Mavericks and it could be a time when iWeb 09 completely stops working on a future OS X release without warning

The suggestions are being put forth so that people can be proactive today, instead of waiting until they have a much bigger issue with people not able to access their website projects in the future.

Also, it is currently mid 2014 and sticking with a product create in 2009 (5 years ago) prevents people from using some of the latest and greatest enhancements. Many of the suggestions provided come with mobile websites, master pages, drop down menus and a lot more not provided by iWeb.

The fact is that iWeb is still vastly simpler and superior in every way to the "replacement" software being touted on this discussion thread.

How so? Do you care to explain what is better about iWeb vs the replacements suggested here? iWeb is great, but it hasn't been updated in a very long time. Although it has some great features, "vastly simpler and superior" is, in my opinion, a overstatement. It could be better in some ways, but in a lot of ways, it is not superior at all.

edos wrote:

I suggest people stick to iWeb and maybe use Multisite for iWeb and we will see if the rumours of a new improved iWeb app that integrates with the new Photos app in Yosemite are true ?

Where did you hear these rumors?

I have Everweb and have spent the last few months rebuilding my iWeb site. Yes, you must rebuild from scratch although you can copy/paste. i finally got it done. Then I find it won't upload to my provider. I tried the Everweb ftp, Cyberduck and Filezilla. No joy. I even had my provider wipe my files so that I could do a clean install. Nothing. I finally uploaded my iWeb site again with absolutely no problems. I am even using their iWeb SEO program to do it with. I needed to have a site available.

Everweb is a very easy program to create a site with, but if you can't upload it, what good is it. i have worked with the rage people for days, and they don't seem to have a clue what is wrong. Judging by the Everweb blogs, I am not alone.

I will give them a couple more days to come up with a solution and then I am done. As long as iWeb is still working, I will stick with it as long as possible. For this reason I am staying away from Mavericks as I don't need it anyway. God only knows how much software I will lose if I upgrade. Not like the old days when you never had to worry about that.

I looked at Webacapella (sp?) in the past and may try them again.

if something good happens, I will let you know.