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java runtime... please help...

I have an 1 macbook pro and 2 MacAirs, all are using OS X 10.8.3 and safari 6.0.3 and all have the same settings... re pop up windows... 64 bit... etc.. etc... with one mac air i can access a web page (dlink) that uses java... and the other 2 laptops have problems... i get repeated messages that i need to install java runitime and make sure that it is activated in my prefferences... it is... but it still does not work.. i have retsarted the machines.. etc.. etc.. please help...

Posted on Apr 8, 2013 12:56 PM

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Apr 9, 2013 8:11 AM in response to soupcook

I fixed my issue...I downloaded Firefox and the ROES software I was trying to download, downloaded quickly and correctly. I don't want to use Firfox, but Apple does not seem yoo concerned about this issue.


If Apple can block Mac users from Java, they should be able to repair the issues just as easily.


Oh well, now I have another option.


Thanks, everyone.

Apr 9, 2013 4:45 PM in response to panahead

Maybe this is too obvious & something you have already tried, but have you checked the Security settings in Safari's preferences?


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soupcook: Apple isn't blocking anybody from using Java, but it does recommend that you not enable it unnecessarily because even though Oracle (its owner & developer) keeps patching it, it is easily the greatest security threat to Mac users. The only known "drive by" malware exploit that has affected Macs used a vulnerability in Java to do so. ("Drive by" attacks just require you to visit a maliciously crafted web page to become infected. You do not need to click on or install anything.)

Apr 10, 2013 7:47 AM in response to panahead

i have a gut feeling that it has something to do with the security permisissions? that maybe i should try and clear the permissions cache? that safari is sending the websit the incorrect permissions? does that make any sense at all? with firefox i get a pop up asking "do i trust this website" but nothing with safari... i disabled the "block pop ups" tab... but that didnt help...

Apr 10, 2013 7:52 AM in response to R C-R

i have a gut feeling that it has something to do with the security permisissions? that maybe i should try and clear the permissions cache? that safari is sending the websit the incorrect permissions? does that make any sense at all? with firefox i get a pop up asking "do i trust this website" but nothing with safari... i disabled the "block pop ups" tab... but that didnt help...

Apr 13, 2013 4:31 AM in response to R C-R

Yes, it is checked. My comment that Apple blocked Java on all the Mac's came from several news sources and from the posts in this site, it appears to be true to me. I have been frustrated by computer issues from time-to-time since the early '80's when I purchased my first computer...TI-99.


This issue takes the cake. Java did not cause the issue of access to Java. I didn't create the issue...Apple created the issue by being Big Brother and globally blocking Java.


Maybe it was the right decision...but it was not my decision. Now here I sit communicating with a lot of other well-intentioned users to resolve an issue that Apple created by blocking my access to Java. Where is the Apple experts who should be offering us assistance? They are sitting on their hands to protect the image and reputation of Apple (IMHO). (Maybe that is unfair?)


At least with the PC, I could do whatever stupid thing I wanted to do and then pay to recover from it. Somehow I muddled through all those years without Bill Gates shutting off access to programs like Java.


Anyway, I am beginning to like Firefox....

Apr 13, 2013 7:46 AM in response to soupcook

soupcook wrote:

This issue takes the cake. Java did not cause the issue of access to Java. I didn't create the issue...Apple created the issue by being Big Brother and globally blocking Java.

Apple did not 'globally block Java.'


For instance, it has most recently provided Java for OS X 2013-002 for 10.7 & later OS versions (including Mountain Lion). That uninstalls the Apple-provided Java SE 6 applet plugin (which only runs Java applets in browsers); however, if you encounter a web page that needs a Java applet plugin, you just need to click on the "Missing plugin" region on the page to download the latest version directly from Oracle, who is now responsible for supplying that for OS 10.7 & beyond.


I suggest that instead of just relying on news reports & user posts alone, you also consider going to http://www.apple.com/support/ & enter that appropriate term in the search box. If you do this using "Java" as the search term you will get the relevant info directly from Apple.

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