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iCloud server blocking Earthlink forwarded emails

Looks like a problem that has happened before with respect to blocking of Roadrunner emails sent to people with me.com email address has resurfaced, this time with Earthlink. I have an old Earthlink account (at least 20 years old, which I keep only because of the number of online accounts linked to this email - almost 1000), and I have email forwarding set up on it to forward all emails to my me.com account, where I can review it at home or on one of my mobile devices. It has been working well for about 8 years.


Today, however, messages sent to my earthlink.net address are being bounced back to the sender due to this error:

host mx4.me.com.akadns.net [17.172.34.66]: 550 5.7.0 Blocked - see https://support.proofpoint.com/dnsbl-lookup.cgi?ip=207.69.195.100


It seems that the spam filtering service, proofpoint (who was at the root of the problem with roadrunner blocked emails before), has blacklisted several of Earthlink's IP addresses, probably because they were the source of some email spam. However, there are many legitimate emails also being relayed via these IP addresses, which are being blocked. I called Earthlink, and basically wasted 90 minutes talking to a level 1 tech ("try restarting your computer") and his supervisor ("it's Apple's fault, not ours"). I spoke with Apple, who was more receptive, but unable to help (escalated to iCloud engineers). I personally entered the IP information on ProofPoint's website via their online form for such inconveniences. I guess I'll just have to wait and see what happens. Any suggestions/feedback would be appreciated.


As an aside, I wish I could just jettison Earthlink after all these years - it's an archaic system, with horrendous email. But, I just don't have the time to go to literally hunderds of websites to update my email address. Anyone have any solutions that have worked for them?


Thanks!

Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.5)

Posted on May 10, 2013 9:16 PM

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May 13, 2013 10:45 AM in response to Stuart Pollack

Alternate solution:

Earthlink now supports IMAP. It's a little slow, but it works. You can add another Mac Mail account for Earthlink and quit forwarding to icloud.com or me.com altogether. You can also move emails between IMAP folders, even though they're hosted separately.


I had to log into the Earthlink control center to find these settings for an unhosted domain. I assume it will work for Earthlink.com. YMMV.


IMAP Settings:

Account type: IMAP (not POP)

Server: mail.[yoiurdomain].com

Use SSL

Port: 993 (should be automatically set to this by default)

Authentication: Password (should be set to this by default)

Username: [user].[yourdomain].com ( note that there is no @ symbol)

Password: [your usual password]

May 13, 2013 1:34 PM in response to Stuart Pollack

Hi Stuart and others. We have worked with the Proof Point and have been able to lift the temporary block that you all had run in to. Should you have any additional questions on EarthLink Email, please visit http://support.earthlink.net/


Hope this helps to solve the issues you have been having.


Best regards,


Matthew Ray

Social Media Manager

EarthLink, Inc.

May 13, 2013 4:13 PM in response to Taildragon

As far as I can tell, Earthlink does not support IMAP. That is to say, there is no IMAP email server for Earthlink, only POP. Therefore, one cannot keep mail synchronized on Earthlink's servers and various devices (home compouter, iPad, iPhone, etc.), such that deleting an email on one device will delete it everywhere. Earthlink is just too archaic to have IMAP, and probably too cheap to ever implement it.

May 13, 2013 4:26 PM in response to Stuart Pollack

Not true, at least for some users. I use IMAP with Earthlink. (see post above for settings).


We have an "unhosted domain" account, which means that we host our website elsewhere, but the email is hosted by Earthlink. I assume that Earthlink.net users also have access to IMAP, but can't say for certain. Earthlink's documentation is definitey not the best.

May 13, 2013 5:15 PM in response to Taildragon

Interesting. I have researched the potential for IMAP on Earthlink for years (most recently today, when I spoke with Earthlink tech support) and have always come up with the same answer to the question, "Do you support IMAP?". "No" has always been the reply. I have gone as far as trying various settings on my email client that would be proper for IMAP (including the ones you listed), but alas, they do not work.


I do not know much about the unhosted domain you are referencing, but I wonder if the server on which your domain is hosted is running a mail server client (e.g., sendmail) that is actually performing the IMAP protocol. If that is the case, then I doubt it would work for an earthlink.net email account, which is hosted in Earthlink's mail server. In any event, I am glad that it is working for you.


Thanks.

May 13, 2013 5:18 PM in response to Elliso

Indeed. But it would have been a bit more deserved if they addressed the issue when I first called them on Friday and spent almost two hours of time trying to convince them that there was a problem that they needed to address. Their response was that they would report it to their Level 2 support staff, who don't work on weekends. Go figure.


Well, at least it's working now...

May 13, 2013 5:34 PM in response to Stuart Pollack

Seems I misunderstood- seems we have you to thank for spending 2 hours on phone with Earthlink...

or anyone else who placed a direct complaint with them

it wasn't clear who was responsible for the issue, for some reason I thought it was Apple originally (reason posted here)


anyway appreciate anyone who put their time in to correct this ...

hope it is working for other users too

May 13, 2013 6:04 PM in response to Elliso

Part of the difficulty in getting this issue resolved in a timely manner relates to the nebulous nature of determining who was at fault. Technically speaking, it wasn't Earthlink and it wasn't Apple, but each contributed a little. The real souce of the problem had to do with a company called Proofpoint, whose filtering software blocks emails originating from various IP addresses, based on data it assimilates that suggests that the IP addresses in question are responsible for undesirable email, such as spam. Various companies employ or subscribe to such services with the expectation that the filtering software will minimize the volume of spam propagating through their servers and annoying their customers. Unfortunately, Proofpoint added some of Earthlink's IP addresses to the "blacklist" of IP addresses, probably because some spam actually did originate from them by an Earthlink subscriber, or possible a hacker. However, the IP addresses blacklisted by Proofpoint are used by anyone forwarding their email from Earthlink, not just the spammer(s). Once the IP's were blacklisted, Apple's email servers merely rejected them, causing them to bounce.


In speaking with Earthlink, they said it wasn't their fault, since they were forwarding the emails as intended. And that's correct. However, Earthlink probably did contribute to having their IP addresses blacklisted by permitting their servers to be used for spam in the first place. So, they get part of the blame.


In speaking with Apple, they claimed that it wasn't their fault, since they were merely relying on the blacklist information and filtering service sponsored by Proofpoint. Of course, if there were more on top of things, they would realize that Proofpoint was unselectively blacklisting IP addresses that affect many more people than the original spammers (this is not the first time that Proofpoint has done this, mind you) and either insist of Proofpoint more selectively narrowing the blocking or finding another content filtering service. So, Apple gets part of the blame.


The most proper way to deal with the issues is to let Proofpoint know that they are inappropriately blocking legitimate users' emails. This can be done by telling them the specifics of the emails that get bounced, including the sending IP address and the sender and recipient email addresses. In fact, this is what I did (as did others), and it eventually got resolved today. Unfortunately, I guess, these companies run in slow motion over the weekend. Ultimately, Proofpoint gets the most blame, and they should be much more responsible in their blacklisting methods. If Apple were to nix them, I suspect they would have incentive to clean up their act. Too many people depend on email, sometimes for life and death matters (e.g., I am in the medical field), and to indiscrimately block thousands of people without regard to the consequences is incredibly callous and unresponsible.


Anyhow, I'm glad we're all back to baseline! Despite the occassional difficulties and frustrations, email still beats the telegram!

May 13, 2013 6:13 PM in response to Stuart Pollack

It turns out that the pain is not limited to Earthlink. Today I discovered that Earthlink itself has been blocking emails coming from GoDaddy (some colleagues host on GoDaddy). There appear to be several spammer botnets running right now that are triggering automatic blacklisting of ISPs that host large populations.


Ultimately, the problem lies with the spam blacklist providers (e.g. Proofpoint for Apple, Mailspike for Earthlink, that are selling less-than-functional services. The ISPs should demand better, but it is a constant battle with the spammers.

May 13, 2013 7:08 PM in response to Stuart Pollack

Working for me, too. Thanks everyone - for being on the phone w/customer service, and for posting the results so I didn't have to waste my time 🙂


And Stuart - thanks for the eloquent explanation - when you're working alone in a vaccuum it's nice to hear someone else walk things through. Yes, email still beats the telegram - and what would I do without being able to google the answer to EVERY question! Thanks for the community!

iCloud server blocking Earthlink forwarded emails

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