how do you create an appleid without entering credit card information

Try following the instructions on this page for creating the account : http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2534 e.g. select a free app in the store and click on 'create Apple id' when 'buying' it

doesn't work if you already have an account.

that was not the question...

" how do you create an appleid without entering credit card information "

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well, i'm trying to create an account and started to do this online and all was fine without credit card. Then when i wanted to use the account to get updates it says details are missing and i need to add a credit card. So ok, i should have written "doesn't work if you're already halfway through the creation of the appleid". I "have" an appleid, but i can not use it until i have added credit card info, so i don't really consider myself to have created an appleid yet as it is useless without credit card info.

Take a look at the response from mountaingoatgirl in this discussion.

Re: What do I do if I do not have a credit card

yea, her hack indeed did work. Though i'm appalled such a workaround is needed for such a simple task.

I'm appalled that Apple doesn't make it very clear when initiating the process of creating an Apple ID, that there is a very specific way to create an Apple ID if you do not want to use a credit card. I love Apple products but the way that they keep some of these features "hidden" infuriates me.

I followed these instructions - and it's not a "hack" :

Create an iTunes Store, App Store, or iBooks Store account without a credit card or other payment method - Apple Suppor…

what you write might not be hack (though adding card info just to remove it immediately afterwards is what i would consider a hack). But it is not a solution to my problem since it _requires_ me to use a credit card, even for free updates. mountaingoatgirl on the other hand has a working solution, and it is most definitely a hack.

A hack is a change to the default system files deep within the OS on your computer.

Changing, adding, or deleting credit card information on a website is not a hack.

Neither is the act of changing available options on a website (as suggested by Apple personnel).

when a software is used in a creative way, eg not the way it was intended to be used it is a hack. see eg merriam webster. Clicking redeem music with a code and then not entering a code and not redeeming a song but using the fact that it is possible to proceed anyways and somehow this finalizes the registration is a hack.

when a software is used in a creative way, eg not the way it was intended to be used it is a hack

Yes, exactly - that is the point:

You're not using software per se: you are using a website and you are using available options to navigate it.

I am done here.

yea, my bad. Of course the program serving me the web pages can not be considered software!