iPhone to Android iMessage bug fix

My husband, on the Apple support call that did not waste our time, that recommended him delete the email address associated with his iMessage (not my anything), also submitted a bug report after dealing with his case number.

This IS a bug, the phones won't sent SMS they keep trying to use iMessage when your phone can't receive it.

foxstrunk wrote:

This IS a bug, the phones won't sent SMS they keep trying to use iMessage when your phone can't receive it.

You are correct, there use to be that bug until ios 7.1.2

Yes. Same problem here. This is absolutely maddening. If I hear one more person suggest that I deactivate iMessage or futz with MMS settings, I'm going to scream. I have followed iMessage deactivation to the letter.

But,

1) I'm not receiving any group messages.

2) Senders have no idea that I never received the message.

The problem is something in iOS, or with the iMessage backend... iPhones are not continually "validating" iMessage status for each recipient in group conversations. It seems that if a group chat started as iMessage, there is no way to get iOS to fall back to MMS for that group conversation.

This is unlike individual 1:1 conversations, where iMessage actively (somewhat actively?) updates/validates the iMessage subscription status for a given recipient.

I've emailed higher-ups at Apple. Apple Support has been useless.

According to poster above she knows how to fix it. Good luck. I suspect she is one of the apple developers who designed color coding of messaging application for apple.

I agree that it should not be programmed this way, and it was a hassle to find a workaround that solved the issue for me. For me, this was only an issue for group conversations, and individual messages worked fine. After several support calls to Apple, one workaround that worked for me might work for you:

1) Have iPhones turn off sending/receiving from their email address (leaving only phone numbers to send/receive from).
2) Have both iPhones delete the existing group conversation. They can then start a new group conversation.

The bad news is that this does still require you to know that there are sent messages that you are missing.

I have de-registered my number from iMessaging, but I still can't get texts from some iphone users. Will this eventually solve itself, or am I still required to tell all of my friends that they need to turn off iMessaging to help me solve this problem?

It will eventually solve itself, but the question is in how long. Apple doesn't seem to be doing much about it right now, so you'd best let your iPhone friends know they should turn off iMessage if they want to text you.

sperman524 wrote:

I have de-registered my number from iMessaging, but I still can't get texts from some iphone users. Will this eventually solve itself, or am I still required to tell all of my friends that they need to turn off iMessaging to help me solve this problem?

Just tell them to start a new conversation in Messages app. The old conversation is still sending via iMessage.

They don’t need to turn off iMessage.

Deleting a conversation and restarting it works until it fails again (which is what happened to me). We shouldn't have to delete convos or do funky work arounds - Apple should fix this.

switched from iPhone to android, and having this problem.

I have tried everything suggested here, and so far nothing has fixed my issue.

I am changing my # and never buying another Apple product as long as I live.

also something that is happening which is very interesting. my old iPhone has a lot of data and i still haven't transferred my contacts, etc.. to my new phone. so i keep it on. i turned off all my calendar, and all the reminders. and STILL despite everything being turned off, including wi-fi, and no cell data, it reminds me of my appointments that are coming up 10 minutes before they occur. Apple really needs to get their head out of their *** and get over themselves. their phones are not superior. and if a person choses to switch phones, it should be the user's choice, not Apple's whether or not the # should be released.

I have been told stories in the past about Apple's crap like this, but never thought it would happen to me. well, now i know.

Pantherabast wrote:

I am changing my # and never buying another Apple product as long as I live.

Thanks for the update!

If we're lucky, we won't have to read your drivel any more...

apple fanboys... gotta love em

my favorite part is... "anymore"... when I posted for the first time.

my favorite part is... "anymore"... when I posted for the first time.

Why is that your favorite part?

Doesn't matter how many times you posted previously.

"Any more" would be you posting a 2nd time and voila, you did...

why are you even here? this issue has nothing to do with you...