Why don't iPhone alarms work when the phone is switched off?

I cannot understand your attacks. The fact that I have bought two iPhones through an economic crisis and in Greece I emphasize because I am not sure if you know that here the iPhone 5s that I bought a month ago costed

1,000.83 USD something that in America and other countries costs less than the half of it. So this fact means that I love iPhones and Apple more than you do. It is meaningless attacking to me like you own the Apple company.

The only thing I did is taking part in the discussion, if you have a problem with it this doesn't bother me and I don't really care.

Maria_Pt wrote:

I cannot understand your attacks. The fact that I have bought two iPhones through an economic crisis and in Greece I emphasize because I am not sure if you know that here the iPhone 5s that I bought a month ago costed

1,000.83 USD something that in America and other countries costs less than the half of it. So this fact means that I love iPhones and Apple more than you do. It is meaningless attacking to me like you own the Apple company.

The only thing I did is taking part in the discussion, if you have a problem with it this doesn't bother me and I don't really care.

Attacks? I suggested you purchase the phone that best meets your needs. How is that an attack?

Personally, I have no interest in how much do or don't love Apple, or whether you think that you "love" Apple more than I. As you don't know how many Apple products I own or what I paid for them, we can't compare on that basis. However, I will tell you that I don't buy iPhones because of some emotional attachment to Apple. I buy them because they are the tool that best does the job for me.

Best of luck.

I always find it amusing when people throw this around. I like Apple, sure, but because they make great products that have never had any significant problems. But I'm not a 'blind fanboy'.

I don't buy a tech product because "it's cool!" I buy it because it's useful. And there are products that Apple sells that I've bought an alternative brand, because it suited my needs better.

The verbal attack of 'Apple FanBoy' is baseless and ridiculous. It's an ad hominem attack, and completely irrelevant.

I also have many devices of Apple. Of course for me it is too the best in what he does. But that doesn't mean that it has not lack of things or it does everything perfectly. It need better battery and with my first iphone I had many problems. As you said you havent faced significant problems with your devices. So, you don't know.

I will no answer again it's meaningless.

TJBUSMC1973 wrote:

I always find it amusing when people throw this around. I like Apple, sure, but because they make great products that have never had any significant problems. But I'm not a 'blind fanboy'.

Me, too. I've no interest in playing "I'll prove I love Apple more than you". Apple makes great tools but they're not a religion. I think, in this case, the problem was I disagreed, didn't sympathize. I just gave a pragmatic answer.

No one has attacked you. Perhaps there's something lost in translation. Or perhaps you've got thin skin. Whatever.

The iPhone will not alert or alarm if it is turned off. And there is no need to turn off the iPhone, except during troubleshooting, or perhaps to allow it to run the battery down to 0% once every other month of so, if you want to.

The device does not work if it is turned off.

That is a blanket statement that applies to 99.99% of all technology out there. In fact, even a 'self-starting' device has to have some form of power to initiate the start up sequence. Such devices are never truly 'turned off'.

For the 'older phones' that had alwarms that worked while 'off'; they were NEVER 'off'. They were in some form of sleep/standby/hibernation. They were not 'off'.

Meg St._Clair wrote:

I think, in this case, the problem was I disagreed, didn't sympathize. I just gave a pragmatic answer.

I'm not sympathetic to ignorance. I simply provide information to rectify that ignorance.

TJBUSMC1973 wrote:

Meg St._Clair wrote:

I think, in this case, the problem was I disagreed, didn't sympathize. I just gave a pragmatic answer.

I'm not sympathetic to ignorance. I simply provide information to rectify that ignorance.

Precisely!

They were off! Completely powered down and the alarm would go off and wake the phone up! Nokia was one model of phone I used, and it did exactly that. And I've just trawled an Adroid forum, where users are complaining of exactly this issue with their new smartphones. So it's a very genuine question. However, someone on here did say that smartphones are computers as opposed to just mobile telecommunication devices, so this could explain why this function is no longer available?!

tch241 wrote:

They were off! Completely powered down and the alarm would go off and wake the phone up! Nokia was one model of phone I used, and it did exactly that.

Doesn't matter what other phones do or don't do, the iPhone's alarm will not ring when the phone is off. End of story.

Probably me. A smartphone is a very powerful pocket sized computer that can also make phone calls 😉

I appreciate that. Have always known it... It was one of the first things I tried with my very first every iPhone. But, I was responding to someone saying that the old phones weren't actually off... only I have no idea how to insert sentences/paragraphs from a previous posts, other than to copy and paste! Which makes me an utter Luddite, yes, but hey ho!

The old phones weren't actually off. With most electronics there is no way to turn them completely off; the "off" function just puts them in varying degrees of sleep. If it was truly off (with no power drain on the battery) it could not generate an alarm. Just like you can't turn a modern car completely off. If you turn off the ignition and don't run it for a month the battery will be dead; it is still powering the security system, radio presets, memory for the engine control unit (ECU) to preserve the car's emissions control settings, etc. The only way to turn any phone completely off is to remove the battery. And I guarantee that no phone will generate an alarm with the battery removed.

Ok, thanks Lawrence, that makes sense... and I've also learnt something today as well. Bargain :)

The alarm worked on my old Motorola L6 when it was switched off. Not asleep but OFF. Dead to the world! Just saying!