How do i get rid of a iPhone Virus?

In the ordinary scheme of things I would agree with you but post "Snowden" I'm not so sure.

HackingTeam DO operate servers in the USA (approx. 60?).

They usually have servers in the target country so that they (and the data they collect) are covered by that country's law.

It stretches my imagination that these servers are only for Android devices in the US.

If the NSA has presented Apple with the appropriate legal order ... then this software IS in the App Store now somewhere disguised as???

Also - and someone please correct me if I'm wrong here - since ios 3?? The factory reset wipes the iPhone's encryption key rather than the actual data then reinstall. It would be trivial for software with unfettered access such as HackingTeam to create a hidden partition and install itself upon each boot - it would seem silly not to do that?

But the NSA would never engineer anything like that - they are our friends!!

Regardless of how many servers they have neither they nor the NSA ever was able to remotely install spyware on the iPhone unless the iiPhone was jailbroken.

The NSA can present a court order to obtain information from them but they cannot get a court order to demand that Apple place spyware on the iPhone or to have an app in the App Store that would do so. Due to the sandboxing of iOS and app would not be able to accomplish this anyway.

DFU mode completely removes the OS from the phone, not just encryption and the HackingTeam still would not be able to add anything to the iPhone unless Apple built it into iOS or the iPhone was jailbroken.

They may not be our "friends" but they do have a mission. And if something goes wrong and a nuclear device gets detonated in the US people will quickly blame the NSA for not stopping it.

Thomas_r;

I was referring to virii. As far as the original post was concerned I was suggesting it was not a virus and that one should assume the most simple explanation and do some investigative work on their own.

Unfortunately our government does in fact have the ability to monitor any phone wireless or not. Even before wireless they've had this capability. There is nothing we can do about this. It's a done deal. It's up to each individual to decide how they feel about that.

If anyone is curious I suggest they read the documents Snowden released. Unfortunately the types of software they may install can and will survive a full wipe and restore as well as a hard reset. This is not paranoia, it's fact. I am not concerned about it. I AM concerned about rogue or irresponsible employees abusing it however because I have observed that it's the more likely scenario.

Snowden never said they could remotely install software onto an iPhone nor did he say anything regarding wiping it.

deggie wrote:

Regardless of how many servers they have neither they nor the NSA ever was able to remotely install spyware on the iPhone unless the iiPhone was jailbroken.

The NSA can present a court order to obtain information from them but they cannot get a court order to demand that Apple place spyware on the iPhone or to have an app in the App Store that would do so. Due to the sandboxing of iOS and app would not be able to accomplish this anyway.

DFU mode completely removes the OS from the phone, not just encryption and the HackingTeam still would not be able to add anything to the iPhone unless Apple built it into iOS or the iPhone was jailbroken.

They may not be our "friends" but they do have a mission. And if something goes wrong and a nuclear device gets detonated in the US people will quickly blame the NSA for not stopping it.

Regarding the iPhone needing to be jailbroken. That's a myth. Please read some of the more recent Snowden press releases, interviews, and the most recent technical document that was released. (Please don't ask me to link you to it. It's out there, just do a search. They own iPhones. Period.

Regarding the sandboxing... true unless they have backend access which they do. Spend a little time researching this. It was in one of the articles I read recently and confirmed by second sources.

Yes they do have a mission. Yes they are supposed to get court orders but it has already been shown that hasn't happened in the Verizon and AT&T incidents. They handing the customer data over without a formal court order. Again do some research.

Again responding to their "mission" and a device comment... all elements of F.U.D.

Ok so can we end this discussion already? These forums are to talk about Apple solutions and fixes. Not politics.

Why waste your time on a member of the tin foil hat club.....

No, we can't end it yet. I have read what is out there. The NSA did say they could install an app if they physically had access to the iPhone (and this was back on iOS 5). They were then going to look at doing it remotely. There is absolutely NO evidence they pursued it any further, no evidence that is worked on later versions and Apple has categorically denied that ANY NSA software was placed on the iPhone and that they DID NOT give the NSA to any backend access.

Anything you are stating is not based on research it is based on pure speculation.

deggie wrote:

Snowden never said they could remotely install software onto an iPhone nor did he say anything regarding wiping it.

Like I said. Within the last month there was a document released that was a list of the "services" they could perform. iPhone was on it. This was not something Snowden said. It was listed on that document.

So far everything that Snowden has publish about what the NSA can do to an iPhone is so far out of date it funny. Apple has patch the hole years ago. The other things is the black hat guys must have physical possession of your iPhone to do all of the nefarious deeds. I don't know about you but I certainly am not giving my iPhone to anyone never mind a black hatter.

deggie wrote:

No, we can't end it yet. I have read what is out there. The NSA did say they could install an app if they physically had access to the iPhone (and this was back on iOS 5). They were then going to look at doing it remotely. There is absolutely NO evidence they pursued it any further, no evidence that is worked on later versions and Apple has categorically denied that ANY NSA software was placed on the iPhone and that they DID NOT give the NSA to any backend access.

Anything you are stating is not based on research it is based on pure speculation.

Then you have missed some recent documents. Go create a google alert for the topic if you are so interested in the topic. If you want to know go find it.

My original reply was to the guy who thought he had malware. I do not think he did. I think less technically savvy people have a tendency to imagine the worst.

I will not debate this topic with you because it's pointless. If you want to believe what you believe then do so. I am not trying to convince you. If you have concerns then do your own research instead of asking for someone else to prove something to you (in the middle of a discussion about whether or not a person had malware on his iPhone). Again. I don't think his issue was malware. Why don't you give him your opinion too and be done with it, instead of taking it into a political scope. This isn't the place for that.

Jon P wrote:

Like I said. Within the last month there was a document released that was a list of the "services" they could perform. iPhone was on it.

Yes, the iPhone was "on it." Unfortunately, you seem to have missed what was actually said, or did not fully understand it. The capabilities of the Hacking Team software do work on an iPhone - a jailbroken iPhone, on which the software has been installed by someone with physical access.

People talk about Snowden documents and the like all the time, but most of those people have never read more than a synopsis - written by someone else who may or may not have actually read them - of a handful of them. Don't be one of those.

You were the one who brought up the political scope. Allan Eckert has it correct, there is nothing new regarding the iPhone and I do keep up and do my own research.

deggie wrote:

Snowden never said they could remotely install software onto an iPhone

Actually, Snowden said exactly that in his recent TV interview. The statement drew much laughter, ridicule and scorn from the security community, who all knew that this was not a statement backed up by any of the documents he stole, nor is it possible by any means they are aware of.

Perhaps Snowden's meaning in that interview was misunderstood, or perhaps he simply doesn't understand crap about the stuff he has revealed, or maybe he's just crazy. I don't know. What I do know is that that particular statement, as I understood it, was blatantly false.

Yes my concerns do hinge on Apple's cooperation (whether voluntarily or not).

The kicker here is that - Would apple be prevented from reporting any such cooperation by a gag order?

We all know that happens - most of the big players including Apple, Microsoft and Google have all admitted similar gagging orders.

So what.

the NSA has only one reason to snoop: it finds a pattern of suspicious activity.

I Have no problem with what the NSA or Snowden did.

I am baffled that anyone was surprised at the scope of the NSA snooping.

Equally baffling, is the NSA's assertion that Snowden leaked information we didn't already at least suspect.

if the end result is the prevention of another 9/11, more power to them.

Meanwhile, I hope they enjoy my Facebook page.