Disk Utility defaulted to Logical Volume Group format for new 4TB HDD and won't let me change to GUID. Is that a problem?

Or had you cloned Mountain Lion it is likely you could use 10.8.3 or earlier also (as well as Snow Leopard and Lion)

Good use for older spare drives to keep an old system around.

Hi, I have the same problem here with a Mac Pro 3.2 quad wuth montain lion 10.8.5, I bought a 3 tb hd and try to format for extended journaled on bay 3, but it gives me the same as jak10e results. Still a bug? How to solve this? please!!

regards

Still a bug in 10.8.5.

Still can be bypassed by erasing in an External enclosure, but as at least one Reader found out, some older External enclosures do not support drives over 2.2TB either.

Still can be worked around if you have a version of Recovery_HD or an old Mac OS X drive that pre-dates 10.8.4.

is Recovery_HD part of another program? or part of certain versions of the Mac OS? i see it is somehow incorporated into Carbon Copy Cloner, but i do not have this particular app, so is this the only way to get it?

(btw i am running 10.8.5)

thanks peter

Lion and above have a small (under 1GB) Recovery partition. CCC just asks to make sure if you want to include one on your other drives (recommended) so you can use it as a small mini OS to use a trimmed down limited set of programs.

Having a clone from say 10.8.3 or earlier would be a better route. Saving that ML installer you got say back in 10.8.0-10.8.3 would also be handy to have to do a clean install and have your own 20GB system - and not update it past 10.8.3 (hence the usefulness of those combo updates for manually install and reinstalling, rather than automatically which will take you to 10.8.5 again).

I am seeing the same problem with four 3TB Hitachi disks in a 2009 MacPro under MacOS X 10.9 (Mavericks).

All the earlier Mac Pro through the 4,1 2009 model can boot from the 10.6 "Full Retail" DVD, which is still available from the Apple Online Store for US$20.

The 5,1 models (2010 and 2012) require custom 10.6.4 as a minimum. So they can RUN 10.6.8 if you have it on an old drive, but they cannot BOOT from the Full Retail DVD, (which contains 10.6.3).

So what does this mean in practice, say you have a 3TB or 4TB drive in 10.8.5 ?

I replaced a non-startup drive holding my iTunes library which was low on space with a 4TB WD black drive some weeks ago - a bit noisy like my smaller 750GB blacks but seems to be working ok for the intended usage - the black is probably overkill for itunes streaming to AppleTv but it was on offer.

Disk Utility indicates it's formatted as GUID partition table, so anything to be wary of?

I ask primarily as ML is behaving oddly - peculiar finder oddities and a few other things that make me think I've either got a dodgy logic board or ML is corrupt.

AC

This is NOT a subtle problem. You can't do ANYTHING with it -- the drive is useless and you are stuck.

The problem is the new Drive gets configured as a Logical Volume group.

Grant Bennet-Alder wrote:

This is NOT a subtle problem. You can't do ANYTHING with it -- the drive is useless and you are stuck.

The problem is the new Drive gets configured as a Logical Volume group.

When you say I can't do anything with it I don't follow but am undoubtedly missing something. I've been using it for a few weeks now and have another unopened.

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AC

Alley_Cat-

YOU have dodged this bullet completely. [I dunno how or why.]

Users with this problem end up with a >2.2TB+ Logical Volume group as the only item on the drive and cannot erase or create ANY Volume on it. The drive is dead in the water.

I honestly can't remember if I formatted the drive via 10.8.5 or 10.9 which I had as a second boot option but removed a few weeks ago.

If I formatted it with 10.9 any problems using it in 10.8.5 ?

Grant Bennet-Alder wrote:

Alley_Cat-

YOU have dodged this bullet completely. [I dunno how or why.]

Users with this problem end up with a >2.2TB+ Logical Volume group as the only item on the drive and cannot erase or create ANY Volume on it. The drive is dead in the water.

Yikes and phew!

Can the dead drive be salavaged and reformatted using 10.9 or earlier ML installations or on a Windows system?

10.9.0 appears to have this problem as well.

Maybe you used a 10.6.3 DVD or one of those [I can't talk about it] versions of Mac OS X.

IF it can create a Mac OS X Extended journaled Volume, you will be fine. Those are broadly backward and forward compatible.

How very, very strange......wasn't the DVD....the 10.9 version was legitimate just not 'mainstream'.

What about the new unformatted 4TB drive? Can I use my old 10.6.8 startup ? I probably have an old Lion startup partition somewhere too.

How very odd.

I wonder if DIsk Utility logs drive formatting anywhere?

AC