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Is it possible to extend a non Apple router network using an Airport Express?

I have an old Linksys WRT54GL router (version 1.1) firmware version v4.30.7 that I would like to get back in to service, as it has VPN support and custom firmware options.

I would like to free up the two Airport Express I own and put them to use purely as network extenders/AirPlay boxes, but despite the fact that Linksys (apparently) released WDS (Wireless Distribution System) support a while ago, setting up the AX as a network extender is looking impossible.

It seems the problem is not with the Linksys, but rather with Airport Utility, which seems to be a result of Apple simplifying the setup options.

I would really appreciate any suggestions on this.

MacBook Pro, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2)

Posted on Aug 25, 2013 7:34 AM

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Aug 25, 2013 9:40 AM in response to Bob Timmons

Bob Timmons wrote:


Apple dropped WDS support in AirPort Utility 6.x, so if you have another Mac running the Leopard or Snow Leopard operating system, you can use AirPort Utility 5.x to configure and administer the WDS settings on the AirPorts. A PC would work as well.


Is that a possibility?


Nope, only one Mac in this household. Any other options?

Aug 25, 2013 10:14 AM in response to The Obviator

You can try a workaround.....not supported by Apple, so there are no guarantees of success.....to install an older version of AirPort Utility on your Mac. So, you will have two versions of AirPort Utility on your Mac, and you can use the one that you need.


There are several methods for this. See details in this thread by forum expert Tesserax:


https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4415928?answerId=21397085022#21397085022


Another popular method is found in this link:


Installing the Old AirPort Utility (Version 5.6) on Mountain Lion | frank.is


If you can make it as far as installing AirPort Utility 5.6, Apple hides the WDS settings, since they do not want users to use them.


When you open AirPort Utility, click on the AirPort router, then click Manual Setup


Click the Wireless tab just below the row of icons


Hold down the option key on your Mac while you click on the small arrow located on the right of the Wireless Mode settings box. Viola!

Aug 25, 2013 1:48 PM in response to Bob Timmons

I have a somewhat related, although slightly different question...


I find myself needing to extend the wireless network coverage for my home network. I've been in the market for a wifi extender and a friend reminded me that I can use the Airport Extreme as an extender / repeater.


First question is...is this correct?


Second question is...if true, how would I do it?


Thanks


Scott

Aug 25, 2013 6:54 PM in response to BoloMK33

Unfortunately, It always takes a minimum of two Apple routers to extend a network wirelessly.


If you want to use the Extreme with the ATT modem/router, you will need to establish a permanent wired Ethernet cable connection from one of the LAN <-> ports on the ATT modem/router to the WAN port on the Extreme.


Then, configure the Extreme to "create a wireless network" using the same wireless network name, same wireless security settings and same password as the ATT network. As the final setup step, make sure that the Extreme is setup to operate in Bridge Mode.

Jan 29, 2014 6:16 PM in response to Bob Timmons

Hi Bob,

You seem knowledgable and may be able to help me. I have a verizon router connected via cat5 to my AirPort Extreme in another area of the house that I wish to use as a bridge to connect several wired devices and then use as a wireless access point. You mention above that this is possible correct if I set all of the connections to be the same? I have tried this using my iPhone and the airport utility app but cannot get it to work bc my AX won't even connect to the network and turn green( the bulb). I did initiAlly but once I started to mess with the settings it turned amber and no longer will connect. While looking around many people are mentioning that using an apple AX as a second router connected to a non-apple verizon main router is impossible, high is true and if possible, how do I do it? I just bought this AX bc it sounded in ads like it could do this but I can't get it to. Please help me from having to go but another router.

Thanks,

Mike

Jan 29, 2014 6:32 PM in response to Michaeljohnson73

Sorry, can't help with Verizon, but can confirm that the setup works perfectly with ATT Uverse routers.


If you want to use the [Express] with the ATT modem/router, you will need to establish a permanent wired Ethernet cable connection from one of the LAN <-> ports on the ATT modem/router to the WAN port on the [Express].


Then, configure the [Express] to "create a wireless network" using the same wireless network name, same wireless security settings and same password as the ATT network.

As the final setup step, make sure that the [Express] is setup to operate in Bridge Mode.

Jan 29, 2014 8:21 PM in response to Michaeljohnson73

With the AX powered on, hold in the reset button firmly for 10 second and release

Allow a full minute for the AX to restart to a slow, blinking amber light


On the iPhone home screen, tap Settings

Tap WiFi

Look for a listing of Setup a new AirPort Base Station

Tap AX


Let the utillty suggest a setup

Tap Other Options

Tap Create a new network. If this option does not appear, you will need to setup the AX with a Mac or PC....not an iOS device.

Enter the same network name and password as the Verizon network

Follow the prompts


When the AX restarts, tap on the amber dot in AirPort Utility.

It will suggest that you change to Bridge Mode, which is the correct setting

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