iOS 8 Fixed Music Sync for me!
This has been a NIGHTMARE Issue for me ever since I Updated my iPhone 4S from iOS 6.1.3 to iOS 7. It’s AGONY **** since 11/2014 until THIS GOOD NEWS:
In October 2014, I upgraded to iPhone 6, 128GB, which came with iOS 8, Ever since, I’ve been able to sync almost 30,000 Songs. The Speed and Stability Improvement, compared to iPhone 4S is very obvious!
Most Songs that I Sync are my own recordings, 32K AACs, some are ripped CDs, plus iTunes purchases!
I have close to 100 Smart Playlists.
After Upgrading to iOS 8.2 from iOS 8.1.3, the Music Sync on my iPhone 6 got broken, but that did not happen on my iPad 3, when I did the same versions Update! The Obvious Difference between those 2 Devices are:
iPad 3 is 64 GB, and I was syncing approximately 1500-2000 Songs, and have lots of Free Space on it
iPhone 6, also lots of Free Space, but 30,000 Songs, and over 100 Smart Playlist!
So, either there were some Major Changes in the Music Sync, as part of Updating iOS 8.1.3 to iOS 8.2, or something happened during the Installation of iOS 8.2
With kind help from a Senior Advisor at AppleCare (I can’t recommend it strongly enough), we executed My Plan:
Backup iPhone 6
Set it Up as New
Verified that Music Syncs OK, just a 100, or so Songs
Restored from Backup
Verified that Music Syncs OK, just a 100, or so Songs
Then it took me 5 Days to Transfer approximately 29,000 Songs. After that my Sync is ROCK SOLID! Almost Daily I add approximately 10-50 Songs, 32 K AACs, and it takes approximately 3-5 Minutes.
I got in the habit of Keeping Very Detailed Logs of All my Sync. I use my iPad Clock, Stop Watch, Laps for it! The Lap tells me he how Long each Segment is, and the Total Duration is in the right-most column!
Here is a recent Example of my Log! Feel free to use it as your Logs “Template”:
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I Sync via USB, not Wi-Fi, so that it is More Reliable, and Faster
On iPhone 6 - 28949 Songs, before Sync
Sync Music = 28882 + 47 = 28929
Added = 47, 32K AACs
Backing up
01 m 46.06 s - iTunes Finished, Spinning Arrows on iPhone 6 = !!!
Total Sync Duration = 00 hrs + 04 m 43.81 s !!! - Finished Sync
Ended up w/ 28996 - 28929 = + 67 Songs More on iPhone 6 !!! ????
+67 Songs is probably due to iOS Treating some of my Songs as Duplicates, when they actually are not. But hey, all I care about is that the Total Number of Songs on iOS is not LESS than the Number of Songs that iTunes is telling me it’s Syncing!
Also, I have several Folders, and not just Smart Playlists, so MAYBE that is what is causing that 67 Songs Difference? But I don’t worry about that anymore!
Other, before Sync = 2.04 > 2.05 > 2.07 GB - I no longer worry about the OTHER…
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iPhone 6 Available = 80.7 GB before Sync vs. After Sync = xxxxx GB
The first 10 Thousand Songs Synced fairly fast, then the Speed of Syncing drops to approximately 5 Songs per minute, thus it’s best to do it overnight!
Here is VERY IMPORTANT INFO:
If you have even half of my almost 30,000 Songs, very short ones, then plan on Syncing in BATCHES - first 3000 to 4000 Songs, then smaller Batches!
The iTunes Sync Finished fairly quickly during those Big Batches - approximately 10-12 minutes or so. Those Segments get Longer as the Total Number of Songs being Sync grows! Initially, before I got to approximately 10-15 Thousands Songs range, the iTunes Sync Segment was Finished in under 10 min.
After iTunes Sync is Finished, ALL your Songs are on your iOS Device, but at the Top of the Screen, near Wi-Fi Icon, you will see a Circle of Arrows that are Spinning Clockwise! That is iOS way of telling the user that those Songs are being PROCESSED!!!
The More Songs you Sync All At Once, the Longer the Process, but… THE GOOD NEWS is:
You can Eject you iOS Device from your computer, see My Set Up at the bottom.
You can make calls and do everything else on your iPhone during that Process, while those Arrows are Spinning!
According to AppleCare, you can even listen to your iTunes during that Process. Only thing is that iTunes might not be able to Play your the Songs that you just Synced, because the have NOT been Processed YET!!! You’ll see the Red Circles next to those Songs Names!
To be on the Safe Side, I avoid using Music App on my iPhone 6, during that Process!
If it’s a Big Batch, I do my Sync overnight, and after about 4-7 Hours, a batch of 1500 Songs is PROCESSED on iPhone! But again, I have to REMIND YOU: those 1500 Songs are being added at that point to 23-25 Thousand Songs that have already been Synced! Thus, particularly in my Situation, with so many Smart Playlists, the iOS Sync has a LOT OF PROCESSING to do, comparing those THOUSANDS of songs!
THE BIGGEST MISTAKE that, I GUESS, people make is this:
The see those Red Circles on their iOS Devices
They panic, thinking something is broken
They do a Soft Rest of their iOS Device
They no longer see those Arrows Spinning
They think they Fixed the Issue, but in reality the BROKE, DAMAGED, CORRUPTED All
Their Previous Syncs!!!
They Sync Again, and it AGAIN TAKES FOREVER, and USUALLY NOTHING HAPPENS!!!
Then one has to Restore the Phone from the Backup.
Assuming that Backup is NOT Corrupted, one has to be VERY EXTREMELY PATIENT when Syncing Large Number of Songs, as in my case!
Of course, if you have Duplicates in your iTunes, that doesn’t help :)! If you have Orphaned Songs, in your iTunes, i.e. the Songs that have been Deleted Manually, but not Deleted from the Library, or, if the Songs is ACTUALLY, on external Hard Drive that is not Connected to your computer during the Sync, OF COURSE the Sync is going to WAIT till it find such Missing Songs! Thus… Before blaming Apple and iOS Sync, WE ALL have to make sure that all our Libraries are “CLEAN”, well maintained!
I went through almost 1 YEAR of MUSIC SYNC NIGHTMARE with iOS 7, and iOS 8 has FIXED it for me!!!
The BEST part of iPhone 6 is those SPINNING ARROWS!!! I.e - After iTunes is Finished, I can SAFELY Unplug my iPhone 6, and LIVE MY LIFE!!!
Now, that my almost 30,000 Songs are on my iPhone 6, those SPINNING ARROWS Process takes 1-2 minutes at most, depending on how many New Songs I am adding!
REMINDER AGAIN - The New Songs that I add almost Daily, have to be Matched, Reconciled, with over 100 Smart Playlists! So, waiting for those Spinning Arrows for a few minutes, as in the following example, is not a huge problem for me:
01 m 46.06 s - iTunes Finished, Spinning Arrows on iPhone 6 = !!!
Total Sync Duration = 00 hrs + 04 m 43.81 s !!! - Finished Sync
––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
Here is my Mac & iOS Set Up:
Mac OS 10.9.5 (13F34)
MacBook Pro 17’, Late 2011, AntiGlare Screen
2.5 GHz Intel Core i7, 8 GB RAM - 1333 MHz DDR3, 500 GB SSD HD
iPhone 6
128 GB - iOS 8.2
iPad 3, 4G, Retina, May 2012
64 GB - iOS 8.2
BACKUP:
Both iOS Devices Backing up to iTunes 12.1.0.50 via USB 2.0, plugged directly into my MacBook Pro!
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The Problem with Many Post, in the Discussions here, including this Topic, is that People are not very Detailed with their Post! Obviously they are frustrated, and often do not include even a Basic Description of their Software and Hardware Versions etc!
Another Tip is:
Prepare your Comment Text BEFORE you post it, so that there is No TIME OUT, and you don’t have to Edit it later !!!
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THANK YOU APPLE FOR FIXING THIS MUSIC SYNC NIGHTMARE!!! I HOPE NEVER EVER TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH SUCH AGONY AGAIN
iOS 8 Fixed Music Sync for me!
This has been a NIGHTMARE Issue for me ever since I Updated my iPhone 4S from iOS 6.1.3 to iOS 7. It’s been **** since 11/2014 until THIS GOOD NEWS:
In October 2014, I upgrade to iPhone 6, 128GB, which came with iOS 8, Ever since, I’ve been able to sync almost 30,000 Songs.
Most are my own recordings, 32K AACs, some are ripped CDs, plus iTunes purchases!
I have close to 100 Smart Playlists.
After Upgrading to iOS 8.2 from iOS 8.1.3, the Music Sync on my iPhone 6 got broken, but that did not happen on my iPad 3, when I did the same versions Update! The Obvious Difference between those 2 Devices are:
iPad 3 is 64 GB, and I was syncing approximately 1500-2000 Songs, and have lots of Free Space on it
iPhone 6, also lots of Free Space, but 30,000 Songs, and over 100 Smart Playlist!
So, either there were some Major Changes in the Music Sync, as part of Updating iOS 8.1.3 to iOS 8.2, or something happened during the Installation of iOS 8.2
With kind help from a Senior Advisor at AppleCare (I can’t recommend it strongly enough), we executed My Plan:
Backup iPhone 6
Set it Up as New
Verified that Music Syncs OK, just a 100, or so Songs
Restored from Backup
Verified that Music Syncs OK, just a 100, or so Songs
Then it took me 5 Days to Transfer approximately 29,000 Songs. After that my Sync is ROCK SOLID! Almost Daily I add approximately 10-50 Songs, 32 K AACs, and it takes approximately 3-5 Minutes.
I got in the habit of Keeping Very Detailed Logs of All my Sync. I use my iPad Clock, Stop Watch, Laps for it! The Lap tells me he how Long each Segment is, and the Total Duration is in the right-most column!
Here is a recent Example of my Log! Feel free to use it as your Logs “Template”:
––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
I Sync via USB, not Wi-Fi, so that it is More Reliable, and Faster
On iPhone 6 - 28949 Songs, before Sync
Sync Music = 28882 + 47 = 28929
Added = 47, 32K AACs
Backing up
01 m 46.06 s - iTunes Finished, Spinning Arrows on iPhone 6 = !!!
Total Sync Duration = 00 hrs + 04 m 43.81 s !!! - Finished Sync
Ended up w/ 28996 - 28929 = + 67 Songs More on iPhone 6 !!! ????
+67 Songs is probably due to iOS Treating some of my Songs as Duplicates, when they actually are not. But hey, all I care about is that the Total Number of Songs on iOS is not LESS than the Number of Songs that iTunes is telling me it’s Syncing!
Also, I have several Folders, and not just Smart Playlists, so MAYBE that is what is causing that 67 Songs Difference? But I don’t worry about that anymore!
Other, before Sync = 2.04 > 2.05 > 2.07 GB - I no longer worry about the OTHER…
––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
iPhone 6 Available = 80.7 GB before Sync vs. After Sync = xxxxx GB
The first 10 Thousand Songs Synced fairly fast, then the Speed of Syncing drops to approximately 5 Songs per minute, thus it’s best to do it overnight!
Here is VERY IMPORTANT INFO:
If you have even half of my almost 30,000 Songs, very short ones, then plan on Syncing in BATCHES - first 3000 to 4000 Songs, then smaller Batches!
The iTunes Sync Finished fairly quickly during those Big Batches - approximately 10-12 minutes or so. Those Segments get Longer as the Total Number of Songs being Sync grows! Initially, before I got to approximately 10-15 Thousands Songs range, the iTunes Sync Segment was Finished in under 10 min.
After iTunes Sync is Finished, ALL your Songs are on your iOS Device, but at the Top of the Screen, near Wi-Fi Icon, you will see a Circle of Arrows that are Spinning Clockwise! That is iOS way of telling the user that those Songs are being PROCESSED!!!
The More Songs you Sync All At Once, the Longer the Process, but… THE GOOD NEWS is:
You can Eject you iOS Device from your computer, see My Set Up at the bottom.
You can make calls and do everything else on your iPhone during that Process, while those Arrows are Spinning!
According to AppleCare, you can even listen to your iTunes during that Process. Only thing is that iTunes might not be able to Play your the Songs that you just Synced, because the have NOT been Processed YET!!! You’ll see the Red Circles next to those Songs Names!
To be on the Safe Side, I avoid using Music App on my iPhone 6, during that Process!
If it’s a Big Batch, I do my Sync overnight, and after about 4-7 Hours, a batch of 1500 Songs is PROCESSED on iPhone! But again, I have to REMIND YOU: those 1500 Songs are being added at that point to 23-25 Thousand Songs that have already been Synced! Thus, particularly in my Situation, with so many Smart Playlists, the iOS Sync has a LOT OF PROCESSING to do, comparing those THOUSANDS of songs!
THE BIGGEST MISTAKE that, I GUESS, people make is this:
The see those Red Circles on their iOS Devices
They panic, thinking something is broken
They do a Soft Rest of their iOS Device
They no longer see those Arrows Spinning
They think they Fixed the Issue, but in reality the BROKE, DAMAGED, CORRUPTED All
Their Previous Syncs!!!
They Sync Again, and it AGAIN TAKES FOREVER, and USUALLY NOTHING HAPPENS!!!
Then one has to Restore the Phone from the Backup.
Assuming that Backup is NOT Corrupted, one has to be VERY EXTREMELY PATIENT when Syncing Large Number of Songs, as in my case!
Of course, if you have Duplicates in your iTunes, that doesn’t help :)! If you have Orphaned Songs, in your iTunes, i.e. the Songs that have been Deleted Manually, but not Deleted from the Library, or, if the Songs is ACTUALLY, on external Hard Drive that is not Connected to your computer during the Sync, OF COURSE the Sync is going to WAIT till it find such Missing Songs! Thus… Before blaming Apple and iOS Sync, WE ALL have to make sure that all our Libraries are “CLEAN”, well maintained!
I went through almost 1 YEAR of MUSIC SYNC NIGHTMARE with iOS 7, and iOS 8 has FIXED it for me!!!
The BEST part of iPhone 6 is those SPINNING ARROWS!!! I.e - After iTunes is Finished, I can SAFELY Unplug my iPhone 6, and LIVE MY LIFE!!!
Now, that my almost 30,000 Songs are on my iPhone 6, those SPINNING ARROWS Process takes 1-2 minutes at most, depending on how many New Songs I am adding!
REMINDER AGAIN - The New Songs that I add almost Daily, have to be Matched, Reconciled, with over 100 Smart Playlists! So, waiting for those Spinning Arrows for a few minutes, as in the following example, is not a huge problem for me:
01 m 46.06 s - iTunes Finished, Spinning Arrows on iPhone 6 = !!!
Total Sync Duration = 00 hrs + 04 m 43.81 s !!! - Finished Sync
––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
Here is my Mac & iOS Set Up:
Mac OS 10.9.5 (13F34)
MacBook Pro 17’, Late 2011, AntiGlare Screen
2.5 GHz Intel Core i7, 8 GB RAM - 1333 MHz DDR3, 500 GB SSD HD
iPhone 6
128 GB - iOS 8.2
iPad 3, 4G, Retina, May 2012
64 GB - iOS 8.2
BACKUP:
Both iOS Devices Backing up to iTunes 12.1.0.50 via USB 2.0, plugged directly into my MacBook Pro!
––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
The Problem with Many Post, in the Discussions here, including this Topic, is that People are not very Detailed with their Post! Obviously they are frustrated, and often do not include even a Basic Description of their Software and Hardware Versions etc!
Another Tip is:
Prepare your Comment Text BEFORE you post it, so that there is No TIME OUT, and you don’t have to Edit it later !!!
––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
THANK YOU APPLE FOR FIXING THIS MUSIC SYNC NIGHTMARE!!!
I HOPE NEVER EVER TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH SUCH AGONY AGAIN !!!
GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE !!!