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ios7 can't connect to wifi ad-hoc network

Hi,

I have a problem connecting my iPhone 4S to the ad-hoc wifi connection my macbook creates when "sharing" the ethernet internet connection through wifi, with iOS6 it worked flawlessy. I have no problems connecting in wifi to my router though.


Anyone experienced that? Could you try?


Thank you

iPhone 4S, iOS 7

Posted on Sep 21, 2013 1:42 AM

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Nov 10, 2013 9:31 AM in response to Alias7

Im having the same problem i can create a networkon on my mac but when i try to connect the ipad the network shows up in "Devices." When I click on the network name to select it, a warning pops up saying: "NetworkName is Not Connected to the Internet. Are you sure you want to use this network?" and it gives me the options of Cancel, and Join Anyways.

Please help as this is driving me mad

Nov 10, 2013 5:11 PM in response to tulrich2

This worked for my iPad and nothing else did..... from user N1c010 in this thread - I also used a WEP 128 bit network. (OS 10.8.5. IOS 6.1.3)


https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4327536?answerId=23740201022#23740201022


Quote.


"I've just tried after many months, and now with OS 10.8.4 and last iOs 6 it seems work again! I've set subnet mask manually to 255.255.255.0, on DHCP it was 255.255.0.0 and it worked only traktor>iPad and not iPad>Traktor!


I'm not sure if I've always used 255.255.255.0 or 255.255.0.0, but check it now, it could work!"

Nov 13, 2013 1:41 PM in response to thingo

Apple don't care. Been in this support chat for the best part of 2 hours. About to be transfered to support so they can tell me how to set up an ad-hoc network. smh


Will post later if I get anything.


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Hello 🙂


I use ad-hoc wireless networks to connect my ipad to my macbook so that I can control music software on my laptop and music apps on the ipad


Since the upgrade to IOS7 on the ipad I have been unable to create an ad-hoc wireless network between these devices although I can create one between my iphone and my laptop


This seems to be a common problem - there are a number of threads on the apple site about it


What is interesting is that if I use Lemur I can create the network


So this would indicate that a network can be created in some circumstances


However even when I have a network connected with Lemur, if I look in the system > Midi > Network preferences although I can see the session name I can not see my ipad listed as a connected device


As far as my understanding as how to create a network - I know exactly what to steps to take


All right.


and this did work without any problems until the moment that I upgraded to IOS7


This is my problem.. 🙂


Thanks for all of this information!


Hopefully I have explained myself ok


I’d be happy to try to help you get this resolved. And yes, I am with you.


cool


With this type of network setup, it would be best to escalate this to the next level up, since this is so specialized. I can certainly make sure that your device is successfully connecting to a standard wireless network configuration though, if you have that option available in your location.


ok


well


I have no issues with connecting to the internet


it's just the ad-hoc network that seems to fail


so it may be best to escalate it?


I thought that might be the case. I’ve checked the technical specifications against your device and the software/firmware changes of iOS 7.


fyi here is a thread connected to it https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5342605?answerId=23674810022#23674810022


There’s not really any reason why this should not work, as far as I can see.


But let me see what I can find out. If you will give me a moment, I will speak with my next level about this. May take a few, os please hold here with me,


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Appreciate your patience. Just taking a moment to get through here. Thanks much for waiting.


that's fine


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sure


Hello there John, form what I understand you’re inquiring about connecting to ad-hoc networks. Is this correct?


ok, yes. The issue relates to my inability to do this since the IOS7 upgrade


Ah okay that can certainly be a bit frustrating when things do not work the same after updating.


Does the iPad successfully connect to other Wi-Fi networks?


absolutely. This only affects it when trying to connect to an ad-hoc network


Ah okay. Let me grab some info.


ok


what is the exact message that you receive when trying to connect to the Ad-hos networks?


ok. It connects to the network. Sorry I have not explained clearly enough.


It connects, but you are unable to see the device on the laptop


there are no wifi signal bars showing on the ipad


and when you go to system > midi > Midi network setup


The ipad does not show in the directory


so you cannot connect to the device


Are you using a Mac or a PC to setup the Ad-hoc network?


mac


Ah okay, thanks for that info.


Just a moment while I check some things out here.


sure


Are you using an application to create the Ad-Hoc network?


ok my setup is this. I use ableton as a DAW I use an application (synthesizer) on the ipad


I use the apple software to create the ad-hoc network


so I go to create network


to create the network


then I connect the ipad to that network


it warns me that there is no internet connection, which is as expected


then I go to audio midi setup


and click the network icon
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then I have a screen like this


however the issue is that my ipad should appear in the directory


so that I can connect to it


it does not do this - thus I can not connect


Hmn. That seems like a frustrating situation since you have used it in the past.


I am trying to see what we can do to address this.


absolutely - and there seem to be quite a lot of other people with the same issue. The strange thing is that it does not seem to affect everyone, or all types of devices


If you try adding internet connection to the ad-hoc network, is the iPad able to receive the internet connection as well?


I wasn't aware that you could do that


It looks like you may be using an application to make the Ad Hoc network, because I know you can use the Mac to create a network, but that does not seem to be the case. Which application is being used to make the network?


ok. If I use Lemur - I can make the connection


But it still does not show up in the midi network settings


If i try to make the connection using the normal mac software I get nothing at all


Okay In this case because the issue seems to be isolated to the Mac and the software I would like to get this to the group which supports Mac computers and can even direct you to support for Lemur if needed.


no!


It's not connected to Lemur


It's not connected to the software


ok


let's prove this


However because the iPad works on all other networks, this seems to be something specific with the ad-hoc network function.


How can I prove to you that the fault is with the OS? What can we do (steps to take)


So that you can get some diagnostics to see what is happening?


Try connecting the iPad to other networks.


other ad-hoc networks?


You can try that. However, using the iPad with ad-hoc networks for the purpose you are using may not be supported.


How do you even know this?


I am using applications that are supplied through your store


that have been tested and are used across the world


Oh of course.


What company is Lemur/Lima developed by?


Lemur is fine!


Lemur works


!!


This is not a problem with Lemur


Right - I have lots of apps that utilise the ad-hoc network


As you stated it is the company which makes the Ad-Hoc network tool. Is that correct?


all of them (apart fromLemur) do not work


This includes Touch OSC


So what I want to understand is how that I can test that the ad-hoc connection works


without using these apps


How would you prove, without any third party software


that the connection does not fail


or if it does - what is the cause?


The way to test that wi-fi works is to test it with another Wi-Fi network.


Right - wi-fi works


so I can connect to the net


But surely there must be a way that I can test this


Ok - so I could go to a friend's house and get them to create an-ad hoc network


this would be one test - but then if that does not work we need something else


Great point John. Let me explain something which may help clarify this.


The feature with using your iPad on the Ad-Hoc network may have worked in the past or may work in specific situations. However, that feature is not necessarily supported (I will send you the manual for the iPad). The Ad-Hoc feature which you have been using with your Mac and iPad, which was software developed by another developer may have suggestion on how to work with this.


As iOs technical support I am here to make sure that the basic features and functions of the iPad work. However, and other features provided by other applications and programs would be best supported by the developers which make them.


How can you prove to me that the ad hoc network works?



In this case because we know your iPad works on Wi-Fi with other networks, that this issue is isolated to the Ad-Hoc networks.


So how can you / I prove that the network works?


I cannot prove that ad-hoc network would work. But I would suggest trying another ad-hoc network.


the ad-hoc network


I will also email you an article on suggested Wi-Fi settings so maybe those can be adjusted on the ad-hoc network.


And will this allow me to prove that I can successfully create an ad-hoc network?


I will also email you an article on suggested Wi-Fi settings so maybe those can be adjusted on the ad-hoc network.




I'm sorry, but I do not believe that Apple can not test to see if an ad-hoc network, works.


You must have tested this when it was developed


So, logically, there has to be a way for us to check it.


If you are looking to create an Ad-Hoc network I would have to get you to the Mac support team.


I am not sure that this is a supported feature on the Mac as well, bus let me triple check.

Nov 27, 2013 2:09 AM in response to thingo

Iphone 5s


connecting to a ad hoc network via laptop.


It connects - can browse the internet. BUT... when you try to stream youtube videos, or use a app like skyFM 80 to stream music, it disconnects immediately -


Something to do with streaming data somehow that disconnects the ad hoc WI-FI connection... Hmm.. Any ideas??? (did the reset, etc etc.. even upgraded the PC's wi fi drivers, etc etc.. already did all that)...


It has to do with constant streaming of data - like music from a FM 80's app.. or from youtube - or any app that has constant streaming of data over wi - fi.


HUMM..

Dec 4, 2013 5:22 AM in response to Empyrean86

So, I was able to get the connection working with AirDisplay by manually configuring the Ad hoc network connection by manually setting the TCP/IP address, subnet, and router in the Network Preferences for the Wi-Fi settings

  • 192.168.2.0 on my MacBook Air
  • 255.255.0.0 as the subnet
  • 192.168.2.0 as the Router
  • 192.168.2.1 on my iPad
  • 255.255.0.0 as the subnet on iPad
  • 192.168.2.0 as the DNS and Gateway

Unforunately, I left my Thunderbolt ethernet adapter at home, so I couldn't test the Internet connection sharing portion.


I hope this helps.

Dec 4, 2013 8:29 AM in response to Alondo

Unfortunately, Alondo, this option wouldn't work for my customers situation.....once you plug the static address in, then they would have to remember to undo that ipconfig for any other network they join, then config the static again once at home.....it would work fine for those of us that are comfortable with doing that (albiet a pain), but not for joe user.

Dec 4, 2013 9:19 AM in response to thingo

Ok... So I spent an hour with a Genius in our local Apple store.


I took him through various scenarious, and he 'got it'.


At teh end ofit, his advice (albeit frustrating) makes sense.


teh only way to test this properly is to do teh following:


  1. backup ipad
  2. Restore to factory settings (i.e. wipe clean)
  3. Install free VPN / VNC app.
  4. test to see if you can connect to your laptop / desktop


This will allow you to test whether the issue is with the IOS7 upgrade, or an incompatibility with the apps.


It is far from perfect, as it does rely on the VPN software working correctly.


He believes, and again i do understand where he is coming from, that this could relate to the upgarde / current versions of apps / small inconsistant bugs that have manifested themselves during teh upgrade process.


I am going to test this.


What I can confirm, without any doubt at all, is that teh issue is APP specific and it does seem to relate to how the apps create the connection.


Because of this< i have a situation where some apps work perfectly, while others do not work at all.


ALL apps work via the router (i.e. over the local wireless network, rather than Ad-Hoc.)



Cheers,

J

Dec 8, 2013 2:54 AM in response to thingo

I had the same problem upgrading to the new iPad Air, and hence from iOS6 to 7.

I use an Apple script on my Mac Mini to create an ad-hoc network (with a static IP) on startup, so that I can connect to it from my iPad and use that as a screen (and as a controller for my music software on the Mini).


After the upgrade, trying to connect to my usual ad-hoc network brought up the 'not connected to the internet' alert and, though it seemed to be connected (there was a checkmark in front of the network name) the apps I use did not work. Also, there was no signal-strength icon on my iPad, which used to be there in my old setup.


The following procedure seems to have solved the issue for me. And though reading these posts it appears as if different people are experiencing different issues, I thought posting my solution might be useful to some.


On the Mac Mini side I did the following:

- created an ad hoc network with different properties than before, that is: new name, manually configured ip address in a different ip-range than before.

So, for example, if before, I used to have a network named Blahnet with IP address 192.168.100.1 (subnetmask 255.255.255.0) I now had Bluhnet with IP 192.168.99.1 (subnetmask 255.255.255.0). As far as I can tell, the channel number and password settings do not make a difference.


On the iPad side I did the following

- The new network shows up under 'devices'. Instead of connecting to it right away, I clicked on the question mark button to the right of the network name.

- In the IP-address section, I clicked the Static tab, and entered the info there, with the IP itself being in the same range as on the Mini, and the Router and DNS set to the IP I entered on the Mini.

So, in the above example, that would be: IP 192.168.99.4; Subnetmask 255.255.255.0; Router 192.168.99.1; DNS 192.168.99.1.

- Finally, click the Connect to Network link at the top, enter the password, and that's it.


Doing this, the signal strength icon does appear on the iPad, and the music control apps work.


Good to know: the static IP profile is tied to the specific network, so after setting it up like this the first time, I can connect to the same network the next time by simply clicking it (without having to set up the static IP manually each time). Similarly, when connecting to my other, usual wifi networks at home or at work, the iPad automatically uses DHCP.


My guess is that my network profile was copied from the old iPad to the new (and from iOS 6 to 7) but the ad hoc connection works a bit differently now, so the ad hoc connection failed. Unfortunately, there is no indication on the iPad that something is wrong, leaving you to guess at what it might be.


Good luck in trying to find a solution.

Cheers

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