iPhone 5S bad quality screen compared to iPhone 5

Hate to burst your bubble. But the vertical lines and yellow tint are not mutually exclusive. There are displays with vertical lines, yellow tint, and both. So finding a display that doesn't "flicker" does not eliminate the yellow tint with it. My replacement 5S was made in December also and had "F1" in the serial and it's still yellow. Just no vertical lines.

Something tells me you're not noticing the yellow tint I am 99.9% positive that a 5S with neither issue does not exist. There are display without the veritcal lines but every single model I've come across has yellow tint compared to the iPhone 5. So people claiming they have a perfect display are definitely just not noticing the yellow.

You need a iPhone 5 with a good screen to compare to your 5S side by side. You'll notice the drastic difference between the display brightness/color temperature. It'll make the 5S look washed out and yellowish. Once you notice this you won't be able to unsee it, unless you use your 5S exclusively for a week or so and try to forget about it. Then it'll seem sort of normal.

I was complaining about my yellow tint to someone I know who bought a 5S.and they claimed their display was perfect. I sent them the test image and of course it flickered for them. They said "why is it doing that??" and I said it's because they have the same crappy display.

Sure enough when I saw their phone in person it had the vertical lines and the display was yellow. He didn't notice the yellow until I showed him my old iPhone 5 with a super bright display. Now he notices both problems and is just as upset as me.

Apple is trying to get one over one us. I'm seriously at the point of looking into swapping the LCD from my iPhone 5 into my iPhone 5S. Just to get rid of the yellow tint. Not sure if the opening for the TouchID is the same size as the previous home button.

Hi,

actually I do see the yellow tint. But even though I would prefer a screen with a cold/blue white I just don't think the yellow tint (warm temperature) is a display issue/faulty display. I will try to explain why I think in that way. 🙂

I checked both iPhone 5S my gf and I own. Both have no scan lines but they do have slight yellow screens. The uniformity is fine which means the whole display has the same slight yellow tint. I read about some iPad screens which are yellow on the left side and bluish on the right. This is not the case on my iPhones. My iPhones are also not very yellow, but under certain circumstances it's visible. First of all it depends on the ambient light. If I'm outside in the sunlight there is absolutely no yellowish screen visible. The colors are strong and pop out. The yellow is visible mostly when there is low light and also with some artificial lights but even then mostly just if I looked at another display (with cold temperature) before. The whole thing with the yellow screen IMO is a topic about color temeprature in the end.

First I compared my iPhones to different electronic devices, I wanna share shortly my conclusion with you.

- the two 5S were identical

- I compared two iPhone 5, one was even more yellow than the 5S and one had the very bright blueish white (cold color temperature) you described

- the Motorola Moto G had also the very bright blueish white (cold color temperature) and therefore made the 5S look yellow

- the Nexus 7 was very similar to the 5S

- the iPad Air had a colder color temperature than the 5S but not as cold as one iPhone 5 and the Moto G

- the iPhone 4 had a similar screen as the 5S but was hard to compare since the colors always look less vivid on the iPhone 4

- the iMac from 2008 had a much warmer (yellower) screen then the 5S and the 2011 iMac had a slighty warmer screen than the 5S

If I look at all these screens then the 5S is avarege if it comes to color temeprature. Obvisouly you can trick the brain by first looking at a colder screen which makes the 5S look yellow. But this also works the other way around, if you look at a warmer screen first, the 5S looks colder and you will think the whites are very bright and just perfect.

The most interesting comparison was my Sony LCD TV though. IMO comparing the 5S to a TV shows exactely why the yellow display is in the end the better calibrated display and the blueish one is the wrong calibrated (better calibrated doesn't mean you actually have to like it more, just that it is the way it's supposed to).

On the TV there is an option to change color temperature. Mine has cold/neutral/warm 1/warm 2. Cold and neutral had a (much) bluer white than the 5S and therefore looking at the display and then looking at the 5S made the 5S look yellow again. Warm1 was more or less the same as the 5S and Warm2 was much(!) warmer than the 5S which made the 5S again look very blueish with "perfect" whites.

Now the interesting thing is, warm2 (and not cold or neutral) is the correct color temperature! You can check every professional calibration for like every TV out there, the warmest setting usually is the correct one. The point is the brain gets tricked by the cold temperature. Almost all the people will think the neutral temeprature is the best one and that's why almost every TV has the neutral temperature as the standard setting. Actually I'm no different than these people, I also like the neutral temeprature, but believe me the neutral or cold temeprature is a wrongly calibrated display.

My guess is, your brain is used to look at displays with cold temperatures and I really do understand why you prefer these displays because so do I. But that doesn't mean the yellow 5S screen is a defect. Actually if I compare it with my TV settings it still isn't warm enough for a correct calibration (thank god Apple didn't make it more yellow though!). Try it out with your TV. Change the color setting to Warm2 (or whatever the name for the warmest setting on your TV is). I'm pretty sure it will make your 5S look not yellow at all. If your 5S even then still looks more yellow than the TV, I guess you really have a bad display. 🙂

My final conclusion is that yellow or not yellow, all these displays are fine (if they don't have the scan lines). The problem is that Apple doesn't make the effort to calibrate them in the same way (and also doesn't offer an option in the settings to change color temperature). Even two of exactely the same panels have slight differences and need to be calibrated slightly different to get the same result, now imagine panels from different brands. That is the reason why some displays are more yellow and others are bluer. In the end it's a question of personal taste but neither the blue nor the yellow display is a defect and therefore IMO the 5S displays without scan lines but with the slightly yellow screens are perfect from the tecnical point.

There is one last bit of hope. Ryan Petrich is working on updating "Color Profiles" for iOS 7, so if you are jailbroken you will soon be able to adjust the color temperature of your display. Until that happens you will just have to get used to the yellowish tint.

@sonicblue - I never said the yellowish tint was a defect. It's simply horrible consistency in the color management of their displays. A defect insists that it's an isolated incident that isn't supposed to happen. My point was that Apple is simply using cheaper LCD displays in certain models coming from certain factories. That's why certain people have the scanline issues and all the displays have yellowish tint.

The warmer color temperature is not a good thing. It causes the screen to look more washed out and innaccurate because the iPhone lacks calibration. I notice it even if I haven't looked at my iPhone 5 in awhile. The minute you load Safari and look at GOOGLE home page, or go into the settings menu you just notice the display looks like vomit color.

What you said about warm being more accurate is not true. Just setting your TV to warm doesn't mean anything unless it's accompanied by 100 other settings to compensate for it. The nicer iPhone display is not equivalent to using "Vivid" mode on your TV. Which I can tell is what you're trying to insist. The iPhone 5 looks better because the whites are more accurate and the display is brighter. The iPhone 5 display is not perfect but it's definitely much better overall.

If you see a perfectly calibrated TV set it will look good UNIVERSALLY to any pair of eyes. When your TV is not calibrated properly and your way of setting it is just to make the colors look fancy and pop out, that's when your settings may be subjective to other people.

Not trying to sound like a know it all, but I have a high end HDTV which I calibrated myself with professional knowledge. So I'm aware of how a display should look. The accuracy of white and black is arguably the most important factor. The contrast ratio gives you an indication of how dark/bright a display can get based on luminance. This is why higher end sets utilize full array local dimming backlighting panels in order to shut LEDs on/off to help create true black or white. This isn't just to make black and white look good, it's to improve the color accuracy of every other color. Every color is made up of percentages of white/black so if they are off the color you are seeing is not accurate.

That's why the iPhone 5 looks better. It can produce a more accurate white than the 5S. BUT every iPhone display is still slightly off because they cannot produce accurate BLACK. Every iPhone produces a greyish black which causes darker colors to look a bit brighter than they should.

iPhone displays give off a good impression because they have a high pixel density. So the image is sharp and pleasing to the eye. How they display colors is a whole different story. In the general scheme the iPhone is not very color accurate and doesn't even have color management for browsers. Meaning if certain colors are used on a web page or photograph, the iPhone will simply not display it properly. To the point that you'll see completely different colors altogether. (Pinkish color instead of a blueish color, etc;)

The iPhone having a warmer display does not help at all, seeing as the extent of calibration is limited to the brightness. Apple made a big mistake by not having display management settings like they do with the Mac Pro line. Those devices allow you to change the color temperature of the device.

Unless Apple adds display calibration to the settings menu or Ryan Petrich releases his Color Profiles jailbreak tweak, we're going to be dealing with this from here on out. Apple has clearly gone with cheaper displays despite lying and claiming it's the same display as the iPhone 5. In reality it's only the technical specifications of the displays that are the same.

If you look at the iFixit teardowns you'll see the 5S has a yellowish backplate on the LCD, and the 5 has a bluish backplate. This could easily be the reason.

Hi again 🙂

I agree with most of the things you write. I also use a Full Array LED TV with Local Dimming (Sony 52HX900) because of it's superior picture quality over Edge LED (but that's another story). 🙂

The thing which is hard to understand to me are the accurate whites. Because white on a cold winter day doesn't look the same as white on a sunny summer day, but both are accurate. I totally agree that Apple should have added display calibration as a setting option in iOS (since I dont wanna jailbreak). And I also could imagine that Apple used cheaper displays since the scan line issue got so much worse with the 5S. Also your explanation of the different colored backplate sounds simple but therefore logical to me. But on my iPhones I actually don't see the yellowish screen and washed out colors all the time, mostly just under the circumstances I described before (looking at a cold display before). And believe me, usually I'm very sensible and picky about these things. 🙂 So, right now I'm not sure if your screen is more yellow than mine or you're more sensible to these things than I am. For me the thing that bothered me a lot were the scan lines, now that they are gone on my display I'm perfectly happy. But I still understand your reaction if the screen seems too yellow for you, I most probably would react the same.

My post yesterday was about finding out if Apple really fixed the scan line issue with the newer production or if maybe it was just luck to get one without scan lines. If Apple really fixed the issue with the scan lines, then there is hope for me that they listen to its customer even if they don't acknowledge the issue publicly. And if they listen to us, maybe there is also hope they will swich back to the blue iPhone 5 screens in future productions or maybe at least with the iPhone 6.

I had my phone replaced and the guy went through 3 brand new 5S models until I found one that didn't have the scanline issue. The one I selected also had the least yellow screen. So I saw 4 brand new 5S as well as the entire line of floor display models. They were all yellowish compared to my iPhone 5.

The home buttons also made different levels of an annoying click noise, the power buttons were all lose and rattled, and about 50% of them had the scanline issue. This is just unacceptable and ridiculous for a company that strives on bragging about perfection and attention to detail. My guess is those poor souls being paid 5 cents an hour to put these overpriced devices together are tampering with them or simply falling asleep while putting them together (no joke).

The yellow tint on my display is not horrible... it's tolerable... but it's unacceptable. I buy my phones out of contract in order to retain my unlimited data plan. So I paid $750 for this and even with upgrade pricing it would come to over $450 after tax and upgrade fees. So all these annoyances are really disappointing especially since I never had issues before.

Look at your settings menu or the google home page. If you don't notice the yellow tinge then I must just be more sensitive. I certainely don't have the worst yellow I've seen but it's there. Once you see it you can't unsee it... even if I stop using my iPhone 5. (Which I still kept just incase I decide to ditch the 5S altogether and just wait for the iPhone 6)

WHITE is white... there is no variance. Accurate white would be legit white on a color pallette. But black is more important overall and iPhones suck at displaying blacks. They are always very gray which makes darker colors less accurate. This is because Apple chooses to use IPS displays for their brightness, but the downside is they cannot produce the deeper blacks. Go use a Galaxy S4 and look at a black background on it... and it'll look like the device is off. Same with my TV... I have the Sony 65" HX950 which is a 4K display and if you have the lower end model they still come calibrated pretty well.. but there's still a lot of RGB work to be done. So I imagine you don't know how good those things can look.

BUT the iPhone displays look nice simply because they are really sharp. So we forgive most of this stuff. it's also more accurate than most lower end Android devices. But the newer Android devices coming out are definitely showing what real displays can look like. The OLEDs give you the dark inky blacks which makes it way more accurate at displaying deeper colors.

Apple chooses to use IPS displays so they will always be brighter than they should be. But the iPhone 5 had just the right amount of brightness in comparison to the rest of the Apple devices in the past.

P.S. - nothing wrong with jailbreaking. it doesn't void your warranty as you can simply reset the phone and it'll be back to the way it was. Jailbreaking is the only reason I even use iOS otherwise I would feel way too restricted. It allows you to fix all of the annoyances with iOS and also adds features that should of been there in the first place. Half of the features in iOS 7 are stolen from the jailbreak community because they are so clever. Like the multitasking, control center, and new notification center. Jailbreak can even save your phone if something breaks. Always ways around it... like a broken home button you can use activator to map home function to other buttons or a touch button, etc;

Jailbreaking will also open the ability to change the color temperature and fix this problem. This yellow tint issue isn't new... it happened with the iPhone 4S also and the Color Profiles tweak fixed this problem for many 4S owners.

Again, I agree with almost everything you write. Mine also has the loose power button that rattles etc (so far I saw one that didnt rattle at all, unfortunately it was the one with the worst scan lines...). I also buy my phones without contract which means I paid Fr. 999.-- for each phone which is about US-$ 1'100.-- right now. So I know exactely what you are talking about. :-) The reason why I still buy the iPhone is iOS which i prefer over Android. But I also realized how Apple's quality got worse lately which

About the black levels, I totally agree. I know about IPS and its weakness of black levels (without local dimming). I changed like 4 TVs before I found the one I have right now. The big thing I desagree is that the Sony 65HX950 is a 4k TV. The 65HX950 is a 1080p TV with full array local dimming. Bascially it's the same TV as mine just 2 years newer (both were Sony's the top level TV in the year they were released) which shows in a nicer bezel, better 3D and nicer menus. If it comes to 2D the picture quality of the HX900 (2010), HX920 (2011) and HX950 (2012) are very equal. Sony's 4k TV is called 65X9005 but this one is only Edge LED and therefore has worse black levels than the HX950 or the HX900. The 2014 high end 4k TV of Sony will be Full Array LED again but it's not available yet for sale. But this topic isn't about Sony TVs. ;-)

You misunderstood what I said. It's my fault since I should of been more specific. I meant 4k as in $4000 display and the one you have is a lower end model for under $2000. I'm not referring to "4K" resolution which is absolutely pointless right now and doesn't serve the discussion. The point is that you're comparing a warm color temp on an iPhone 5S to $2000+ displays that have 100 calibration settings and it's main purpose is to display images.

Doesn't matter if you agree with everything I said. Everything I've said is the factual truth. To make it simple... just because 1 of 100 settings on your TV is to set color temp to "Warm", doesn't mean a yellow tinge on an iPhone is correct. The iPhone displays are all set to 6500K luminance and yet one is yellowish. That's a problem. This yellow is not because of the luminance or color temp it's clearly a fault of a cheaper LCD display being put in by certain factories.

Today the color temp settings on your TV are actually for people who don't know how to calibrate the RGB and Gamma settings. They knew people would base the image on simply luminance so they created pre-sets like "Vivid" which are horribly off...but people use them since it looks brighter. Televisions originally did not even have color temperature settings because the correct/standard temperature is between 5000-6000K. But certain artists started using different color temperatures for their films, and most manufacturers would set the displays to high color temp for store displays to catch people's attention. So everyone is used to bluer displays looking better, just because the brighter display is usually the one that catches peoples eye in the store. Not many are aware of proper calibration. The blueish display is engrained in people's heads so now the warmer colors look wrong. But this is NOT what is happening with the iPhone. The iPhone looks washed out as well as yellowish... so the image is not as sharp too. It's a lower quality LCD than they used in the iPhone 5. Mark my words.

The Touch ID and the whole idea of making cheaper phones with the 5C... I think this philosophy was a general idea. They spent all the money on the Touch ID with it's sapphire glass and aluminum rings, that they had to cut corners elsewhere. If you do research the iPhone 5S is actually more fragile than the the iPhone 5 despite looking exactly the same. What does that tell you?

Also I'm not going to go into a whole rant about televisions... but the HX900 is not the same as the HX950. The bigger size experience alone is better. They have similar specs but the HX950 is better not just in build quality but image as well. The lower end models are not calibrated as well either. Really don't want to go off topic here and bore the readers. It also doesn't matter who has the fancier TV. It's enough 1st world arguments for now.

I agree, we shouldn't go off topic too much but I still wanna clear out some things since I'm not sure you really know what model the HX900 is since you always refer it as lower end model for under $ 2'000.--. The HX900 was released in 2010 and was the most expensive high end model of Sony by this time (the only one with Full Array LED and Local Dimming). It was mostly hand made, with lots of metal and a real glass which made the TV very heavy but also very stable. When it was released its price was more than Fr. 5'000.-- (more than $ 5'500.--) and that was without the Monolith stand, 3D glasses etc. In 2011 its direct successor was the HX920 which had the same 2D picture quality but much better 3D, nicer menus and a slimer look outisde. Since Sony wanted to cut prices they started to use cheaper materials, more plastic and also a plastic front instead of a real glass. The result was that the HX920 actually had more issues than the HX900, for example DSE (Dirty Screen Effect) but also yellow banding (forums are full about that). In 2012 the direct successor of the HX920 was the HX950 which (as reviews say) had the equal picture quality as the HX920 and therefore also the same 2D picture quality as the HX900. Unfortunately the quality issues with the HX950 have gotten much worse and therefore Sony shut down the complete production of the HX950 only few weeks after its introduction. Only very few HX950 have gotten to the market worldwide and many of them broke down in the meantime (Sony doesn't offer any repair on the HX950 it will offer a replacement with the W900). You can find these things if you google it but also at hifi-forum.de for example (I'm sure you can find it at avsforum.com as well but I haven't checked it). The point is, I know exactely how a good TV picture has to look like since I don't have a low end TV neither. Also the fact the HX900 is a bit older than the HX950 doesn't automatically mean its quality is worse. Otherwise the 5S screen has to be better than the 5. Another point I strongly disagree is that the HX950 has better build quality because just of the materials used it can't. The bigger picture can offer a better viewing experience (it also depends on how far you're sitting away from the TV) but doesn't affect the picture quality itself at all. So the 2D picture quality of the HX900, HX920 and HX950 are actually equal.

But back to the topic and I agree that we shall stay there now. :-)

I see your point with the iPhone screen being more yellow than some other screens. But I still dont think it's an issue. Actually I only see it if I first look at a screen with much higher color temperature. But after looking 1-2 minutes at the iPhone screen again the yellow is gone and there are no washed out colors. I compared many screens by now (I compared even more yesterday) and only very few had a bluer screen than my 5S. Most had a similar screen and some had a yellower. So maybe your phone is much yellower than mine because otherwise I don't see the problem. But of course that's just my opinion and I can accept if other people think different and are bothered by the way the screen looks. It would be interesting to hear the other peoples opinion about the yellow screen (issue or non issue?). For my part I don't think I can add much to the yellow screen topic since for me it's a non issue.

The reason I wrote here were the scan lines, which affected me a lot and many others in this topic too. As I wrote before (on page 4), I have hope that Apple fixed the scan line issue with its latest production and I was wondering if other people made the same experience as I or if there are still iPhones with scan line issues produced in December or later out there.

It's pretty annoying when someone agrees to stay on topic after they get the last word. No offense but I have a feeling you're just using Google to get your info. Especially since your first post about "putting the phone up to the TV and other devices to compare display quality".

The HX900 is more comparable to the XBR8 in terms of overall specs. In Europe your model numbers must be different. The HX920 doesn't exist it's called the HX929. Which I actually own as well and it's in my living room. As far as picture quality the entire HX900 series is practically identical and there is no difference in one being "hand made". They all have the Gorilla glass and if anything the HX929 and HX950 actually have a way nicer bezel. It's thinner and the gorilla glass is laid across the entire front so it blends in to look like one sheet of glass floating in mid air. So your claims of yours being better made is just so far off.. What I said was that the HX900 series comes calibrated out of the box good enough for some people. But I professionally calibrate all of my sets, so I am able to notice the slightest issues with display qualitiy.

Notice the much smaller bezel and overall much more beautiful looks.

They stop production of every single TV as they are low margin items so they do not stick around for long. Just because you read issues on a forum doesn't mean it's fact. People are more inclined to write in forums when they have defects and/or complaints (just like you see here)... not many people show up to say how much they love something. My sets are perfect and would blow you away if you saw them in person and I've had them for a long time. The build quality is way better than the HX900 I've seen... so unless yours is some special model I don't know what to tell you. The newer sets are also THINNER so that's why they are more fragile... just like anything expensive is. You can find a cheap $500 TV that's build like a brick... but that's because they use cheaper parts.

I own both the HX929 in 55" and the HX950 65". Both of these sets are beautiful and will dwarf the HX900/903 both in image quality and looks due to their sheer size. The "monolith" stands mean nothing to me as I wall mount all of my TVs. The HX900 full array panel also caused major blooming issues when you had a dark screen with a bright object inside. The newer models improved on this a lot by adding a lot more zones especially with the huge 65" models. The smaller one you have is harder to darken areas of the screen seeing as it's smaller surface area and there are less LEDs per square inch. It may not seem like a huge difference but even 52" to 55" is a huge difference... your 52" would look so small to me after viewing everything on a 65" display.

Your set is also old in the sense that you have to buy external dongles for WiFi and 3D capabilities and it's only capable of 240Hz. Newer sets bring the 240Hz coupled with the 960Hz Motionflow and the build quality is WAY better. Everything is built in. 2010 is OLD... sorry to say... new TVs come out every few months so you're set is obsolete even a few months later let alone 4 years later.

Newer doesn't always mean better... right. But the newer Sony sets are better. Don't get me wrong.. to average people the entire XBR line is great. But you totally misread my point and I never said your TV *****. I said that comparing an iPhone 5S yellow screen to a warm setting on an expensive TV is just pointless.

Also I don't know what prices are in France but they are not the same here. You overpaid for your model big time. I got my HX929 when it FIRST came out for $2200 and it was the 55" model. I paid $4000 for the HX950 and it was 65". So if you paid more than $2000 for a 52" HX900 you got ripped off.

Lastly... your eyes are different than mine clearly. The 5S is yellow no matter how long it's been since you've looked at a "bluer" screen in your words. It's just a little less noticeable when you're not comparing them side by side. I notice the yellow in the settings menu, the safari browser anytime the page has a white background, in the messages App when doing iMessage, and even in the Mail app. You must just not notice these things as much as I do.

Either way, the scanline issue was the real problem here and I finally got one that doesn't have this issue so I'm somewhat happy. I will definitely be downloading Color Profiles tweak once it comes out to fix the yellow so overall I'm fine with it. But I shouldn't HAVE to do this... that's the point.. The yellow tint is managable for most people as most people don't have an eye for quality. They just spend $400-$900 on a phone and think they are automatically getting quality. People also have problems admitting when Apple stuff has issues because they are fanboys. I am objective and non-biased with everything I buy. I will point out what's wrong no matter who made it. Even if I love the brand.

I never said I paid that price, just that it was the official price when it came out. I bought mine 1 year later in a sale. But well, we have clearly very different opinions about the TVs, it's quality, etc. and I'm just gonna end the talk about it by now since we will never agree about this. Just so much about your "It's pretty annoying when someone agrees to stay on topic after they get the last word." Since you did that in your post from 13.01.2014 20:01 and again right now. That's why I end it now without adding more comments about the TV picture quality and let the last word be yours.

I'm perfectly happy with my iPhone 5S by now. If someone else is bothered by the scan line issue, please read my posts on page 4.

Actually no... that's what you did. I was the first to say let's stay on topic and you came back with a huge post. So I did the same. We're both guilty after that point.

You tried to claim that the HX900 (actually called the HX909) was better build quality. Which is incorrect. There's a difference between opinion and fact.

The HX929 and above is much thinner and has a much smaller bezel so it's a totally different process to produce each one. The HX929 and above are nicer looking sets. But the entire HX900 series all have gorilla glass and the same scratch resistance so there is no difference there.

Judging a TV on it's fragility is silly, considering they hang on a wall or sit on a flat surface and are barely ever touched. They are not like smartphones that will be handled all day and tossed around.

You sacrafice solidness for looks all the time. Hence why the iPhone 5S is more fragile than the iPhone 5. It uses different internal composition to implement the Touch ID, and a Sapphire home button which feels like it will break much easier than the old home button. But it's a luxury you earn by making that sacrifice.

Back on Topic: You started this by telling people you got a perfect display just because there were no scanlines. I stated that I don't think a perfect display exists on the 5S because they all have a yellow tint. The scanline issue is just an additional problem alongside the rattling power buttons and noisy home buttons. But sadly these are NOT defects like we would hope for. This seems to be something that every single 5S has... just with different severity. Every single 5S I used had a rattling power button if you put it up to your ear and shook it, they all made noise when clicking the home button (although some claim they like this noise, its annoying to people around you), and they all had a yellowish tinge (some worse than others). The scanline is the only issue that is not universal.

You're also forgetting that people got different levels of yellow tint. So if your display is correct then why are other displays MORE yellow? Is their display more correct than yours? You admitted you saw the yellow tint, but then tried to rationalize and justify it by saying it's similar to the "warm" setting on your expensive TV. This is incorrect. Sure it's possible that you actually enjoy this yellow tint. But this is not how the display is supposed to look. It has nothing to do with being conditioned to a bluer screen in the past. It has to do with the general display quality of displays overall, and my knowledge of how a display should look.

You got one like mine which just has a very slight yellowish tinge and you are forcing yourself to live with it, and make yourself less annoyed by pretending it's the way it's supposed to look.

If the yellow display isn't wrong.. then why did you enjoy your iPhone 5 display? Why did you notice a difference? You even said you prefer bluer displays and understood where I was coming from, but now you're saying you like the yellow display better? I do not feel that the 5S display is better after using it for awhile. I just find that I'm noticing the yellow tint less the longer I go without looking at the 5 display. But there is no point where I felt "okay this looks better actually". I just felt "Okay i can live with this". That's a compromise that I shouldn't have to make.

I should not open a web browser and have the entire background have a yellowish tint when it's supposed to be white. White is white... and when it doesn't display white properly it means something is off. This I can promise is due to a cheaper LCD in the 5S devices.

Color Profiles will fix this problem by compensating for it. I guarantee you when I get this tweak and I take screenshots you will see how much better my 5S looks than it did before.

Again, I totally disagree with your explanations since many of them are wrong (for example the HX900 being limited to 240hz, it also has Motionflow800 which is Motionflow960 in America [50hz/60hz]) Also the models are called HX900 and HX920 over here (they also exist as HX905 and HX925 that's the model with sat tuner). But these are just two examples about all the things you wrote wrong. Also I'm serious about not wanting to go into details anymore because it is off topic (I originally only mentioned my TV to compare the yellowish white of the iPhone). So I won't comment about the TV topic anymore (I say that because I'm sure you will comment and explain your point again, so please don't expect me to answer it again). I'm serious when I say I let you have the last word even if I totally disagree with your statement.

Again, if somebody has the scanline issue, please read page 4.

Unless you have some magical version. The HX903 (HX900 in EU) has Motionflow 400 PRO NOT Motionflow 960. So unless you can show me otherwise and you're talking about some other model and it's a mixup due to the Country differences... you're wrong again.

Actually it's even less than I thought. The XBR-52HX909 is only capable of MotionFlow 240Hz which means it's only a 120Hz set and uses software rendering to produce the illusion of 240Hz. The HX929 is a 240Hz set and produces 960Hz through software rendering. The native 240hz vs. 120hz is a huge difference by itself... let alone the improved software rendering.

Is this not your TV?

The HX929 and above not only has 240Hz native and Motionflow 960 XR, but an Opticontrast panel and uses the X-Reality PRO Engine instead of the old Bravia Engine 3 that the HX909 uses.

Case closed. Enjoy your day.

That is just a typical Level 6 member answer. Instead of helping with a useful comment, you just tell him to stop complaining and send him to the Apple store. This Forum is full of guys like you - try to help next time and make a decent comment. People come to this forum with problems and many other people confirm them.