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Touch ID being Erratic

Wife and I got iPhone 5s units at the same time. She has had hit and miss success with touch ID. I am golden with mine, and also hers when I put a finger into her phone data. She is frustrated, and will delete fingerprints and resestablish on her phone. Her finger scan will work for a few times, and then it gets to be like it doesn't recognize her finger (left thumb or right thumb). Is anybody else having some issues like this?

iPhone 5s, iOS 7.0.2

Posted on Oct 1, 2013 8:43 PM

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Jan 12, 2014 8:05 AM in response to ally0000

I've been a long term BlackBerry user but decided to try the new iphone during my recent Vodafone "upgrade", going to the iphone 5S, which I got from the White City London Vodafone store mid-December.


To date I bitterly regret it. I've now had four 5s phones, three from Vodafone and one from Apple and the finger recognition hasn't worked reliably on any of them. They all do exactly the same - after setting it up it works pretty much flawlessly for a day or so but then degrades. I've tried all the tricks, including resetting, redoing the finger scan, scanning the same finger (my thumb) several times and nothing settles it - once reset it works for a day or two but then degrades.


I'm now due to get my fifth replacement on Monday. I'd really like to go back to a BlackBerry but Vodafone won't let me, which is really annoying because as far as I can see the 5s isn't of merchantable quality as they simply don't work as advertised - and the finger recognition was the main selling point for me. Not a good intro to Apple.


What I find unbelievable is that from my conversations with Apple personnel none of them have heard of the problem before, which must be a lie. From what I read on the internet it seems like perhaps 25% of the 5s phones issued have this problem (whatever the problem is), which, if the case, clearly means Apple must be well aware and are trying to keep a lid on the fact that their new flagship phone doesn't work and shouldn't have been issued - yet anyway.

Jan 12, 2014 8:30 AM in response to RedRolling

So, Apple marketing says, I quote:


"with iPhone 5s, getting into your phone is faster and easier with Touch ID—a new fingerprint identity sensor.

Touch ID is a seamless way to use your fingerprint as a passcode. With just a touch of the Home button of the iPhone 5s, the Touch ID sensor quickly reads your fingerprint and automatically unlocks your phone."


and...


"touch ID continues to learn and improve recognition of your fingerprint"


What a joke! When the system doesn't work - which is 90% of the time - it takes seven actions to unlock the phone.

Jan 12, 2014 9:20 PM in response to Sgh_aba

I, too, agree that Apple needs to admit having this problem with the Touch ID sensor and give us hope that they are working on a solution. I have all Apple devices, and more that one of a lot of them, and the reason has been because Apple had the rep that if it is made by them "it just works" and up until now that has been the case. I am sure there are a number of people out there that bought the 5S for other reasons but all of us, plus countless others who just don't know how to go about complaining about, it paid the extra money because the TID was on this model. I can sit back and wait till they get it right IF they will admit to the problem and say they are working on it. I sent one phone back to Apple and the senior rep that I was working with about this said it was a hardware problem. The next time I talked to her, after a new phone made no difference, I asked if a new software update was due soon and would that help with the problem. She told me that she knew no more than me. I think they need to give their reps more info about what is going on or are they being told to lie for the company?. Is this company on it's way down? They have major competition in the marketplace and many people tell me they wouldn't buy Apple because it is overpriced for what you get. Anyone who questions me about this phone I tell them not to buy it till Apple fixes it! I have a replacement warranty at the store I bought my phone and they have a replacement there for me but it is a lot of work to do backups and restores over and over again if the phone hardware is not the problem!

Jan 13, 2014 12:00 AM in response to robert d.fromchicago

I can understand being fed up as I was about there myself. If you are up to trying one more thing, check out my video about static electricity and TouchID at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvvpppanoHk. (Sorry for being verbose, I didn't have much time at that time to cut the video down to size.)


While I and a few others have successfully resolved our issues with TID using my methods, the "sample size" of people that have used it is admittedly small. If this is something that will work for a broad sample of users, I need more people report back about it so that it can become more widely known.

Jan 13, 2014 6:00 AM in response to Frankswan

I've now received my fifth iphone 5s and set it up, including finger recognition using my thumb, as before.


I've just tested it 30 times, switching the phone off and back on using my thumb and it worked every time 100% - I even moved the position and angle of my thumb and it still worked if rotated.


Fingers crossed (forgive the pun!) it continues to work this way, but I've been here before with all four previous phones so have little faith nor confidence. I will know in two days, as that seems the limit before they rapidly degrade.

Jan 13, 2014 4:24 PM in response to Dreanmachine1

When I had first gotten the 5s touch id worked flawlessly, then after the first few days it started not working. Now it doesn't work, then I put a lifeproof (5s compatible) on my phone. Now touch id works flawlessly on my phone. I believe some of you people that are having the same problem as me. It's not the phone it's you, some people produce a little more sweat/acid from their fingers. This extra excretement from your hands is causing the sapphire to blur the image, if a clear piece of plastic is placed over(just like lifeproof does) the sweat will not blur the image. It's not the tech it's your fingers. Get new fingers or put a life proof case on it. Not many people suffer from this that's why it was not taken into account. Many fingerprint scanners suffer this problem, reason the make other biometric scanners.

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