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Import DV video from camcorder tape to a single DV file?

I've looked around quite a bit on this forum and can't find an answer to this one...


I'm importing DV videotapes from an old Sony camcorder onto my Macbook Pro using iMovie 11. I have unchecked the iMovie import dialog box that says "Split days into new Events".


When I click import in iMovie the video is indeed imported.....but upon looking at my hard disk after the whole tape was imported, iMovie split my import into about 35 separate DV file clips.


I don't want all of these individual DV clip files....I just want to do a straight import from the camera tape to hard disk and have one resulting large DV file (which for an hour of DV video will probably be around 17 gig). If iMovie is going to split my single tape into 35 separate DV files then I'm going to have to go through the extra steps to create an iMovie project, assemble the clips into a movie within that project, export to a single movie file, etc. All of that just to get a simple import done....


Is there a way to use iMovie to just do an import from the DV tape to a single DV file on my hard disk? Or, do I have to find another piece of software to do this?


Any input would be greatly appreciated because I have about twenty DV tapes sitting on my desk and I need an easy way to import all of this stuff to archive it...


Thanks,

John

Posted on Oct 4, 2013 6:36 PM

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Feb 8, 2014 12:19 PM in response to Johnny O

Hi Johnny O...


Yes, I agree with what you said about exploring other deinterlacing options depending on what other projects I might pursue with this video in the future.


But for now, the most important thing to me is that I'm getting exact digital copies of what's on the tapes for my archives so that I'm safe if anything ever happens to the tapes or the camcorders down the road (they're getting old!).


As long as I know the tapes are "backed up" in their original digital quality, then anything else I do with them after the fact is fine becaue I would never alter these digital archives directly. I know that they'll always be software around to 1) play these files back and 2) deinterlace them to get them to look their best.


And now I'll proceed with capturing 45 hours of old tapes to my computers. 🙂


John

Jun 9, 2014 3:36 AM in response to JohnNY123

Hi John


I wondered how you are getting on with your project as I have excactly the same task ahead...


Are you successfully using QT Pro? I am looking for a solution as I considered using FCP X (which I already use for editing) but I would have the same issue as you did with iMovie.


Any thoughts or words of encouragement gratefully received!


Thanks very much

Liz

Jun 9, 2014 9:26 AM in response to Lizziewhizz

Hi Liz,


My project using QT Pro to import my digital tapes is going fine. I'm about 1/3 of the way through around 40 tapes. I try to do one whenever I'm free, and I set up a spreadsheet to catalog the content of each tape as its imported so that I can easily search for specific tapes and video segments in the future.


QT Pro creates one large ~13 gig file per tape and they play back fine. I'm able to address the deinterlacing topic by making the proper settings in QT Player when I play the tapes back. I see no quality difference between the original tape and the QT Pro file, which is what I expected based on the feedback from everyone in this thread. YOu just have to make sure you set the QT Pro preferences properly to capture the original tape quality.


I'm capturing the tapes onto a 3 terabyte external USB 3.0 hard drive, and I bought a second duplicate hard drive to make backups of everything to store it outside of my house when I'm done for safety's sake.


I hope this answers your question.....If you want to know anything else about my process, please let me know and I'll be happy to get back to you.


John

Jun 9, 2014 4:40 PM in response to Lizziewhizz

Hi Liz,


Another alternative is to use iMovie HD 6 depending on your platform which will accomplish the same thing--both have the same underlying QT engine, so it's a matter of GUI preference. However, with Mavericks and Yosemite, I suspect that QT PRO may be the better purchase choice for longevity and support.


Deinterlacing is important in one's workflow; but, I suspect you know that if you are using FCP. I happen transcode and prefer using a Decomb filter as opposed to deinterlacing to maintain highest quality. It works out really well when transcoding for MP4/H264 delivery. That said, when necessary, I'll deinterlace.

Jun 9, 2014 10:53 PM in response to JohnNY123

Hey John,


Thanks for the update and glad to hear that your project is going well. But those file sizes...!


I wanted to output each tape as a DVD but that just wouldn't be possible with a file that big. When I did my test on FCP I ended up, for a film of about an hour, sharing to DVD (file size 1.11GB) and saving a M4V of 3.74GB - quite a difference.


Think I may have to stick with FCP to get the result I need.


Thanks for the update though and good luck with it.


Liz






Jun 9, 2014 10:57 PM in response to Johnny O

Hi Johnny,


Thanks for that. I'd rather stick with an interface I know - do you think there would be a benefit to using iMovie over FCP? I didn't deinterlace in previous tests I've done and the quality is fine, my main concern is time it takes to import the media to the FCP timeline which is what I was hoping to avoid since I don't need to edit at this stage.


All thoughts gratefully receieved!


Thanks again

Liz

Jul 6, 2014 3:36 PM in response to JohnNY123

Hi JohnNY123, Hope your DV conversions are going as well--I've learned tons. I've run into the "famed" 12-bit audio issue on a few older mini-DV tapes. Of course, the export becomes out of synch on those longer captures.


After some research, it appears the best way to convert 12-bit to 16-bit audio is to capture the project and export it back to DV tape. Seems like a lot of time/effort per tape. Yet, another alternative is to import the original using FCE--kind tough if one doesn't have FCE. And, there are other methods, too, such as export the extracted audio clip and converting it and reimporting the converted clip--hmmm?


Wondering if you/anyone has determined the best, fool-proof way to convert a full-length video recorded in 12-bit to 16-bit DV to maintain synch? This may deserve another/new thread--but, given some of the experience in this forum--just wanted to pulse you and others first, to see what really works best....


Thanks,

JohnnyO

Jul 6, 2014 6:03 PM in response to Johnny O

Yup...I'm still plowing along with my capture/archiving process.


I'm pretty sure that all of my DV tapes are 16-bit audio (even the oldest ones from around 2000...that camcorder has a 16-bit option which I turned on and used from the first day I bought it), but now I'm going to go back and check the files to ensure they captured OK.

Oct 30, 2014 1:08 PM in response to JohnNY123

Just want to test this workflow with the experts on the forum as I begin to convert my DV collection. For background, I use a JVC SR-DVM600 deck with Firewire output connected to an iMac with Mavericks and a Firewire 400 (JVC Deck) to 800 (iMac) conversion cable.


1. QUICKTIME - Capture the original video in Quicktime v10 to save as an archival version.

- Open Quicktime 10 (in my case 10.3)

- Select New Movie Recording

- Select the Camera = 1394 DV

- Select the Quality as Maximum - This will store the DV content as Apple PreRes 4444

- Select play on the deck and record in Quicktime

> The output is a very large MOV file (25GB+) that looks exactly like the original


2. iMovie - Capture the video in iMovie major steps summarized below:

- Import from the Camera/deck and iMovie will pull in a series of clips separated based on timecodes

- Create a new movie for each set of clips, or place all the clips into a single movie

- Change the Movie Properties from CROP which appears to be the default to FIT so that the top and bottom of the 480p video are not cropped

- The biggest hurdle has been that a single tape has multiple dates of video footage. Based on another Apple recommendation, I use a Title from the Content Library to add date/time stamps. Search for "date" when in the Titles section and drag to the clip where you want to display the timestamp.

- I share the movie to a file which provides a compressed version of the video in MP4 format with the timestamps displayed.


3. Copy Clips - Copy the iMovie clips to the archive since the clips have the original date/time stamps built into the file name

- Select the clip and Reveal in Finder from the Menu

- From the Original Media folder, copy all of the MOV files which are in DV/DVCPRO format 720x480 to the archive folder

- Then I send the project to the trash in iMovie and prepare for the next DV cassette

So that gets me the originals, original clips with timestamps and a compressed version for presentation.


QUESTION 1 - Any concerns with that workflow


QUESTION 2 - When sharing the iMovie file and creating the MP4, I have been saving as 720p. Should I have iMovie scale the video to 720p or leave as 480p and let the TV scale the image? How well does iMovie scale?


QUESTION 3 - Is there a better way to get the date/time stamps from the DV video? Adding the titles to individual clips is time consuming.


Thanks!

Import DV video from camcorder tape to a single DV file?

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