Mails send with Apple Mail get displayed always with font times new roman. Is there are workaround? When does Apple fix this. It´s unprofessional if you have to use mail for business.

You can't control how your recipient configures their email client. They see what they choose to see.

So, if you depend on people seeing your email as you think they should, you'll never achieve that.

If you change the font style in the message, when you create it, it will add enough information for Outlook to display it as html, otherwise Outlook just sees it as plain text.

Hi Markus,

If the appearance of your message is important, format it in a document and attach that to your email message. Be sure that your recipients can open the attachment. In general, avoid sending Apple docs such as Pages. Best to export to PDF, Word or RTF (Rich Text Format).

Regards,

Ian.

Actually, there is a solution... kind of.

If you create a custom signature with a specific font, be sure to set the font at the beginning of the signature. Then lave a few lines blank, and just remember to start typing below where you changed the font. It's a bit of a pain but it works just fine.

Alternatively, you can think about using Airmail or another Mac-compatible client that does better on the rich email formatting front.

For the record, though: If you do change the font, you are also overriding your recipient's preferences. The reason Apple Mail doesn't let you set the default font in the email is that the you can't know the display and reading preferences of your recipient. Suppose the recipient has a tiny screen and bad eye sight? They might choose to view their email with a large, easily legible font. Just something to consider...

In my case, I format my signature the way I want it... but I usually leave the body alone. Let the recipient read it using whatever font they like...

These are all just ******** reasons, excuses, and workarounds. Every other e-mail application I've ever used lets you set the outgoing font, color, weight, etc. and there's no real reason that Apple Mail shouldn't do this also. For a company so concerned with style that they dictate the radius of rounded corners of their icons not offering this modicum of control over how your emails appear to others is unexplainable. I might understand it more if they simple dictated a decent looking format and didn't allow you to change it. That would seem more instep with Apple's SOP but instead they just send out unformatted text and leave it up to the receiver's e-mail client which, in the case of Outlook, means it is displayed in Times New Roman and looks like ****.

Hi Pat,

Every other e-mail application I've ever used lets you set the outgoing font, color, weight, etc. and there's no real reason that Apple Mail shouldn't do this also.

You can set the outgoing format. You have no control over the recipient's incoming format. Perhaps they have *chosen* to receive their email in a Times New Roman. Or perhaps their email app forces a certain font.

Quality control is in your hands. I repeat my advice that I posted on 11th October 2013:

If the appearance of your message is important, format it in a document and attach that to your email message. Be sure that your recipients can open the attachment. In general, avoid sending Apple docs such as Pages. Best to export to PDF, Word or RTF (Rich Text Format).

Or Export to PDF and attach that. No email app will change that.

Umm.. a bit like the old typed letter?

Regards,

Ian.

Nice rant, but you're still wrong.

The appearance of the email on the recipient's end is controlled by their email client. Unless you send an image.

No, if you don't send any style information then it uses it's defaults but if you send proper inline style info nearly all modern email clients will respect it unless the client has been configured to override it but almost nobody does that.

When I send an email from Gmail, Outlook, Yahoo, Thunderbird, or countless other email clients it arrives on the other end looking, for the most part, like it did when I clicked send. With Apple Mail it almost never does.

Hi Pat,

And if a recipient chooses to use Times New Roman, it will look like this.

Or if a recipient has trouble seeing, they may choose to receive emails like this.

Or this.

If they are artistic, they may choose to receive emails like this.

And you have no control over their end, unless you send a document as an attachment or send an image.

Regards,

Ian.

I guess I'm missing your point Ian. What's overriding the style informaiton on the receiving end have to do with the fact that Apple Mail doesn't allow you to set default style information on the sending end?

Mgellert,

Yes, I've fought with it for a couple of years now. I used the signature work around for a while but it is almost worse. For instance, if you mistype a word and it gets autocorrected then all the text up to the autocorrect loses it's style information.

I also send a lot of emails where I use the font, color, and weight to help explain what I'm trying to get accross. Stuff such as code snippits or specific instructions to "Click here", "Type this", etc. After seeing some of these emails on the client end in Outlook I realzied that Apple Mail just does an abysmal job of diplaying what the email that it sends will actually look like on the other end.

In short, as I said above, every other email client I've ever used does a fairly decent job of showing you what the emai will look like to the recipient on the other end except Apple Mail. Regardless of the technical reasons.

-pat

Then use Outlook, why waste more time on this exercise.

Except Outlook 2011 for Mac has the exact same issue.

You have no idea what the email will look like when someone opens it on Outlook on Windows. On your end it looks perfectly fine, the way you formatted it. But on the receiver side, if opened on Windows, it has different fonts all over the place, different font sizes in different parts of the email, a couple of paragraphs will always be huge, irregular spacing, often double or triple spacing in between a couple of sections and parts of the bullet lists.

I get comments from my coworkers and clients that opens my emails on Windows all the time. The emails become almost incromprehensible unless its in plain text with no HTML formatting. Makes me look like a **** fool every time.

I appreciate that you want to let the receiver dictate the formatting in some cases as they may have bad vision etc. but in business when 95% of your recepients just want a standard HTML formatting that they can read without getting extremely frustrated I could care less about the people who wants to dictate all their emails to be in Wingdings 42pt.

Come on, can we not solve this? Email is such an old way of communicating, how do we not have a standard formatting on both sender/receiver end already?

Hurre wrote:

Except Outlook 2011 for Mac has the exact same issue.

Not according to the person who started this post.

mgellert wrote:

For me the question is, why is Outlook aible to send the neccessary style information automatically with my mail and Apple Mails does not?

So you can take it up with him.

I already know that Outlook does the same thing.