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Crucial M500 vs Samsung 840 EVO

Hello,


I hesitated quite a lot before starting this discussion, thinking that people are already sick and tired of SSD comparisons, but I really haven't found my answer and would greatly appreciate your opinions.


So, I have a Mid 2012 13" MBP which I want to upgrade with a SSD to replace the 5400rpm HDD and I'd like to buy one before Mavs comes out, so that I will use it for a fresh install of Mavs.


I'm aiming for a 500GB-ish drive and the two finalists for me are Crucial m500 480 GB and Samsung 840 EVO. Of course, I would consider the 840 Pro or non-pro if you think it's better, but please, no OWC, Corsair, Intel, SanDisk or other recommendations.


I am leaning towards the M500, mainly because of what professional reviews say (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crucial-m500-1tb-ssd,3551.html), that although it's a tad slower than the 840 EVO, it's more robust, it has better security and, overall, more reliable. Moreover, I think about Apple's increasing number of fights and lawsuits with Samsung, which could eventually result ins ome disadvantages for Samsung product users in Macs. I'm thinking about future firmware updates from Samsung (which could be hard or impossible for Mac users), or even that Apple could implement some features in a future OSX release or some app which could not work for Samsung products.)


On the other hand, Crucial is not a competitor for Apple and it is known that many people love it in their Macs. Moreover, the slightly better speeds in the Samsung I doubt that they will be noticeable in a daily use. What could they mean: 2-3 sec difference when booting up or 5-10 sec when copying (say) a 10GB file? I think I'm okay with that 🙂


So, what are your opinions?


Thanks a lot!

MacBook Pro (13-inch Mid 2012), OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 14, 2013 1:11 AM

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Oct 31, 2014 1:33 AM in response to kkd_ldn

"I have a recurring problem when I'm making music. If the track I'm working on is playing and I load up a plugin on a channel, the plugin will appear to be missing until I pause the track."

I do not know. It may have nothing to do with the SSD. Sure that all your apps are Yosemite compatible?

Check the lists in roaringapps.com.

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Nov 3, 2014 5:28 AM in response to Lexiepex

I did not install the TRIM command. I simply cloned my HD to the M550 and then installed the SSD into my Macbook Pro.


I didn't install the Satsmart driver either.


I bought the SSD about a month and half ago. I haven't installed any firmware updates. Is this something that may help to resolve the issues I'm experiencing?


Here's the report from DriveDX:


### SYSTEM INFORMATION ###

Report Timestamp : 3 November 2014 13:21:18 GMT

Report Timestamp (ISO 8601 format) : 2014-11-03T13:21:18



Application Name : DriveDx

Application Version : 1.3.0.444

App SubBuild : 0

Application Edition : 1

DriveDx Knowledge Base Revision : 1/1



Computer Model : MacBookPro9,2



OS Boot Time : 2014-10-31T01:36:43

Time Since Boot : 3 days 11h 44m 35s

OS Name : Mac OS X

OS Version : 10.10.0

OS Build : 14A389

OS Kernel Version : Darwin 14.0.0



ATA Command Support Tolerance : verypermissive

N of drives with S.M.A.R.T support : 1







### DRIVE 1 OF 1 ###

Last Checked : 3 November 2014 13:20:42 GMT

Last Checked (ISO 8601 format) : 2014-11-03T13:20:42



Advanced SMART Status : OK

Overall Health Rating : GOOD 100%

Overall Performance Rating : GOOD 100%

SSD Lifetime Left Indicator : GOOD 100%

Issues found : 0



Serial Number : 14270C8574F4

WWN Id : 5 00a075 10c8574f4

Volumes : Untitled

Device Path : /dev/disk0

Total Capacity : 512.1 GB (512,110,190,592 Bytes)

Model Family : Crucial M550 SSD

Model : Crucial_CT512M550SSD1

Firmware Version : MU01

Drive Type : SSD



Power On Time : 143 hours (5 days 23 hours)

Power Cycles Count : 202

Current Power Cycle Time : 83.7 hours







=== DEVICE CAPABILITIES ===

S.M.A.R.T. support enabled : yes

DriveDx Active Diagnostic Config : Crucial (Micron) M5xx series config [ssd.micron.crucial.m5xx]

Sector Logical Size : 512

Sector Physical Size : 4096

Physical Interconnect : SATA

Removable : no

Ejectable : no

ATA Version : ACS-2, ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 6

SATA Version : SATA 3.1, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)

Attributes Data Structure Revision : 16

SMART Command Transport (SCT) flags : 0x35

SCT Status supported : yes

SCT Feature Control supported : yes

SCT Data Table supported : yes

Error logging capabilities : 0x1

Self-tests supported : yes

Offline Data Collection capabilities : 0x7b

Offline Data Collection status : 0x80

Auto Offline Data Collection flags : 0x1

Bay # : 1

I/O Path : IOService:/AppleACPIPlatformExpert/PCI0@0/AppleACPIPCI/SATA@1F,2/AppleIntelPchS eriesAHCI/PRT0@0/IOAHCIDevice@0/AppleAHCIDiskDriver/IOAHCIBlockStorageDevice

[Known device ]: yes

[Drive State Flags ]: 0x0





=== CURRENT POWER CYCLE STATISTICS ===

Data Read : 25.3 GB

Data Written : 30.1 GB

Data Read/Write Ratio : 0.84

Average Throughput (Read) : 41.4 MB/s

Average Throughput (Write) : 59.2 MB/s



Operations (Read) : 707,088

Operations (Write) : 646,322

Operations Read/Write Ratio : 1

Throughput per operation (Read) : 37.5 KB/Op

Throughput per operation (Write) : 48.9 KB/Op



Latency Time (Read) : 0 ns

Latency Time (Write) : 0 ns

Retries (Read) : 0

Retries (Write) : 0

Errors (Read) : 0

Errors (Write) : 0





=== PROBLEMS SUMMARY ===

Failed Indicators (life-span / pre-fail) : 0 (0 / 0)

Failing Indicators (life-span / pre-fail) : 0 (0 / 0)

Warnings (life-span / pre-fail) : 0 (0 / 0)

Recently failed Self-tests (Short / Full) : 0 (0 / 0)

I/O Errors Count : 0 (0 / 0)

Time in Under temperature : 0 minutes

Time in Over temperature : 0 minutes





=== IMPORTANT HEALTH INDICATORS ===

ID NAME RAW VALUE STATUS

5 Reallocated Block Count 0 100% OK

171 Program Fail Count Total 0 100% OK

172 Erase Fail Count Total 0 100% OK

173 Average Block-Erase Count 1 100% OK

180 Unused Reserve (Spare) Blocks 4,403 100% OK

246 Total Host Sector Writes 1,644,300,724 (784.1 GB) 100% OK





=== TEMPERATURE INFORMATION (CELSIUS) ===

Current Temperature : 37

Power Cycle Min Temperature : 27

Power Cycle Max Temperature : 37

Lifetime Min Temperature : 20

Lifetime Max Temperature : 44

Recommended Min Temperature : 0

Recommended Max Temperature : 70

Temperature Min Limit : -5

Temperature Max Limit : 75





=== DRIVE HEALTH INDICATORS ===

ID | NAME | TYPE | UPDATE | RAW VALUE | VALUE | THRESHOLD | WORST | STATUS

1 Raw Read Error Rate Pre-fail online 0x0 100 50 100 100% OK

5 Reallocated Block Count Pre-fail online 0 100 10 100 100% OK

9 Power On Hours Life-span online 143 100 0 100 100% OK

12 Power Cycle Count Life-span online 202 100 0 100 100% OK

171 Program Fail Count Total Life-span online 0 100 0 100 100% OK

172 Erase Fail Count Total Life-span online 0 100 0 100 100% OK

173 Average Block-Erase Count Life-span online 1 100 10 100 100% OK

174 Unexpected Power Loss Count Life-span online 6 100 0 100 100% OK

180 Unused Reserve (Spare) Blocks Pre-fail online 4,403 0 0 0 100% OK

183 SATA Downshift Count Life-span online 1 100 0 100 100% OK

184 End-to-End Error Life-span online 0 100 50 100 100% OK

187 Reported Uncorrect Life-span online 0 100 0 100 100% OK

194 Temperature (Celsius) Life-span online 37 63 0 56 63.0% OK

196 Reallocated Event Count Life-span online 16 100 0 100 100% OK

197 Current Pending Sectors Count Life-span online 0 100 0 100 100% OK

198 Offline Uncorrectable Sector Count Life-span offline 0 100 0 100 100% OK

199 UDMA CRC Error Count Life-span online 0 100 0 100 100% OK

202 Percent Lifetime Remaining Pre-fail offline 0 100 0 100 100% OK

206 Write Error Rate Life-span online 0 100 0 100 100% OK

210 Successful RAIN Recovery Count Life-span online 0 100 0 100 100% OK

246 Total Host Sector Writes Life-span online 1,644,300,724 100 0 100 100% OK

247 Contact Factory Life-span online 0x311D163 100 0 100 100% OK

248 Contact Factory Life-span online 0x143939F 100 0 100 100% OK





=== DRIVE ERROR LOG ===

error log is empty





=== DRIVE SELF-TEST LOG ===

self-test log is empty




Thanks for you help LexSchellings!

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Nov 3, 2014 5:45 AM in response to kkd_ldn

Trim, should not be installed: OK. (maybe in future versions of Yosemite).

M550: the actual firmware is MU05 (released 25 Marh 2014), you have MU01. It might be necessary to update the firmware for Yosemite.

Download here: http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/support-ssd-firmware

SSD looks healthy, may be a bit warm (37°C, mine normally is at 35, with room temp at 21), but the DriveDx "opinion" on that is a bit "strong". Nothing to worry about I think.

Did you not forget to turn off "local snapshots" in TimeMachine?

Lex

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Nov 3, 2014 6:04 AM in response to Lexiepex

you can set some more:

- In energy savings, "put the disk to sleep when possible" should be OFF (you can also in Terminal copy/paste sudo pmset -a disksleep 0).

- Sometimes the sata cable should be replaced too, or the connector is not clicked fully home.

- Also you can set hibernate mode to 0:

sudo pmset -a hibernatemode 0

sudo rm /private/var/vm/sleepimage

sudo touch /private/var/vm/sleepimage

sudo chmod 600 /private/var/vm/sleepimage

sudo chflags uchg /private/var/vm/sleepimage

- this disbles writing a 1.2GB file to the disk when going to sleep: this set of commands remove the existing sleepimage, replacing it by a locked file with 0 bits.

PS, do use BlackMagic DiskSpeedTest as little as possible, all that writing is not ideal for your SSD.

Lex

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