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How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I read that OS X Mavericks will no longer allow me to use iTunes to sync my iPhone to a local system but makes iCloud mandatory? Is that correct?


iCloud is not a valid option for me since I have no control about my data there, I need to keep all my data (contacts, calendar...) on a system under my control and so far iTunes allowed me to do that which was one of the reasons I didn't even consider Android or Windows Phone.

OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 20, 2013 8:54 AM

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Oct 28, 2013 4:10 PM in response to shoot_me

I just looked at the comments on Mavericks and there are none about the local/USB sync. Most just praise Apple.


On a side note, I have not yet updated to Mavericks, still waiting for the dust to settle.


I remembered that my iPod Nano has Calendars and Contacts as well. Naturally since I am not on Mavericks they still sync. Has anyone tired to sync an iPod Classic or Nano to see if the info tab is sitll there?


If the iPods do still allow sync of Contacts and Calendars under Mavericks how is this done?


My Nano does not have Wifi so the only way I can connect it is with the USB cable.


Andy

Oct 28, 2013 4:15 PM in response to AndyD

I remembered that my iPod Nano has Calendars and Contacts as well. Naturally since I am not on Mavericks they still sync. Has anyone tired to sync an iPod Classic or Nano to see if the info tab is sitll there?


If the iPods do still allow sync of Contacts and Calendars under Mavericks how is this done?


My Nano does not have Wifi so the only way I can connect it is with the USB cable.


Andy

Which generation is your iPod Nano? I have (six/6)th generation and I don't remember seeing its calendar and Contacts. Mine doesn't have wifi either. USB only.

Oct 29, 2013 1:44 AM in response to AndyD

@AndyD:

If you want to find the negative comments about Mavericks on the AppStore, you have to sort them for negative responses.

The regular view displays "relevant" responses first, meaning those, which readers have deemed(clicked) "helpful". To increase the visibility of reviews that apply to your own situation you should mark them als "helpful".


@all:

I am glad we got the flaming in this thread to a minimum now and I think we should stop judging othes alltogether.

It's difficult enough to form a reasonable opinion, if you've known someone for 10 years, let alone 10 lines of text in a forum.


Plan of action:


What can we do to get Sync back:

  1. Rate Mavericks on the AppStore
  2. agree with corresponding reviews
  3. send feedback via form
  4. inform the media/tech blogs, people need to know, before they "upgrade"

Oct 29, 2013 2:29 AM in response to Gerrit7

@snozdop

I think there is a big difference using Facebook and iCloud: on Facebook I am not forced to share information and it is my free will and responsibility to do so and knowing the consequences.

on iCloud I am forced to share my information and have no choice anymore as a Mac user that is up to date with the OS.

NSA makes backups and I am sure has already all your personal information from iCloud stored on their HD's ... lets hope that none of your contacts will ever do something silly!





figuring out an alternative to iCloud, I am setting up "ownCloud" on my NAS. Ironically I don't manage to get the cardDAV account to work in Maverick and I am not a noob .... there seems to be a bug ... how strange!



also my first generation iPod that I love nostalgically does not sync anymore. but I guess the goal behind all of this is to get rid of all your old devices and to buy new ones ... and of corse share all your private information.



what happened to privacy? isn't it part of the fundamental rights?!

Oct 29, 2013 2:58 AM in response to shoot_me

"we should stop judging others altogether" : yes indeed.

Those of us who want to sync non-iOS devices, and/or do not want to use the iCloud, have only their opinions as an argument.


Plan of action: agreed, all four points.

Very good. (oops... was that a judgement? ;-) )


Technical: from what I understand it would be easy for Apple to include the calDAV and cardDAV servers as standard. Much in the way the Apache web server is there. In OSX earlier than 10.7 there was even a simple checkmark in the system preferences sharing panel to switch the web server on and off. Could be the same for calDAV/cardDav.


Once those servers are back, it is easy for third party developers to provide local syncing with non-iOS devices.


So we should probably suggest that in feedback to Apple.

Oct 29, 2013 6:03 AM in response to RobertCailliau

In all likelihood this is a stategic decision by Apple to push users into the "cloud" so I would not expect them to yield to any protests here. Perhaps if you are a shareholder you can call investor relations and tell them you think this decision is bad for the stock price.


Anyhow, you can run your own calendar and contacts server on your Mac which is 100% compatible with Calendar and Contacts. There is a guide here: http://www.ronregev.com/misc/pim_server_tutorial/

Oct 29, 2013 6:09 AM in response to itanimulli

I'll just throw my two cents into this conversation just because I like to be devil's advocate. In 5 years or so no one will use local storage much. This is how technology works. Things move forward. I remember everyone complaining when they no longer included 3.5" floppy drives. When they no longer included disc drives (last years new iMacs.) Tecnology is moving forward, I'm sorry you don't trust it, but you will be left behind holding stacks of 3.5" floppy discs. Technology won't go backwards and wait on you to catch up.

Oct 29, 2013 6:45 AM in response to jonfromdaleville

jonfromdaleville wrote:


I'll just throw my two cents into this conversation just because I like to be devil's advocate. In 5 years or so no one will use local storage much.


So you think... But unless there are serious advances in speed (must come close to a HD) and security (must only be accessible by the owner of the data, no exceptions) for cloud storage, I don't see it taking off for anything but small, unimportant things like a shopping list or a throwaway photograph you send someone.


Floppies died out because what we currently have is way faster, bigger and more reliable. Current cloud storage means going backwards in that respect. Especially combined with data caps on mobile and DSL plans plus slow uplinks on DSL data storage in the cloud is NoGo and a good USB stick is hard to beat in bandwidth for data transfer.


Especially with wireless, the throughput possible is limited since it's a shared medium. Go to a large gathering and see what throughput you get there, if any.

Oct 29, 2013 7:43 AM in response to jonfromdaleville

jonfromdaleville wrote:


I'll just throw my two cents into this conversation just because I like to be devil's advocate. In 5 years or so no one will use local storage much. This is how technology works. Things move forward. I remember everyone complaining when they no longer included 3.5" floppy drives. When they no longer included disc drives (last years new iMacs.) Tecnology is moving forward, I'm sorry you don't trust it, but you will be left behind holding stacks of 3.5" floppy discs. Technology won't go backwards and wait on you to catch up.

Interesting article here: http://www.cloudcomputing-news.net/news/2013/oct/02/wozniak-i-am-fan-cloud-lets- not-go-all-yet/

Oct 29, 2013 8:48 AM in response to Think twice

Think twice wrote:


Ok I wasn't going to read through all the threads so sorry if this is a repeat solution, but I found a website called securityspread.com and the guy used the new OSX server ($19.99) on mavericks to sync locally all the contacts and calenders. I would hope Apple would bring the local sync feature back and I have complained but it does comeback I think this is the only option. I hope this helps even thought you do have to dish out some cash 😟


This does not solve the problem for those who have older devices and can't afford to buy a new one. (I still have an iPhone 3g and a 2007 MacBook Pro).

Oct 29, 2013 9:11 AM in response to EA

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This does not solve the problem for those who have older devices and can't afford to buy a new one. (I still have an iPhone 3g and a 2007 MacBook Pro).


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This is correct. The only thing we can do is stay with 10.8.5 and iTunes 10.7. And I do not intend to buy new devices until I have a means of local/USB sync and complete local control of my data. This is in no way intended as a threat, it is just my cautiousness. As soon as I find a solution I like I will be purchasing, but not until then... I will wait. All of my computers are Mavericks capabile, my iPhones are capabile of using iCloud syncing, the only thing not capabile is my 1st gen iPad which I was going to replace until all htis came up. I was also going to replace my iMac, and 2 iPhones and 2 iPads. But for now I wait.


My hope now is that a third party will see this as an opportunity and make an easy solution. I know server is a solution, but I am not sure I am ready to jump into the deep end of the pool just yet.


I am starting to feel that this thread is a "fools errand" as I have only seen significant reports of the problem here and on MacIntouch. I have not seen any reports on any of the other online Mac media sites of our concerns about the loss of local/USB sync.


I will still partticipate and read as I hope something will come of it. I have sent my concerns to Apple and I hope others continue to do the same.


Andy

Oct 29, 2013 9:06 AM in response to EA

EA wrote:

This does not solve the problem for those who have older devices and can't afford to buy a new one. (I still have an iPhone 3g and a 2007 MacBook Pro).

If you still have a 3G, then don't update to Mavericks. Problem solved... Obviously, you don't have an issue with not staying up to day, so how would this be a problem for you?

Oct 29, 2013 9:08 AM in response to Gerrit7

I can agree there must be advances before it completely takes over, but sooner than later it will in most regards. Data caps are basically only enforced in the US for the most part. A lot of companies big medium and small use cloud storage now for their most important data. The reasons why? It's usually cheaper than buying a database for themselves. The host usually backs up to several physical locations to ensure a backup incase something happens. Things are already moving that direction and Apple once again, jumps ship when they see fit.

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