How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

applejpmc wrote:

Snozdrop

"It has been discussed before why Apple removed local syncing. Basically, it was frequently unreliable, proprietary, and was not scalable for multiple devices/computers (which many of us have these days). Technology and the way we use it does not stand still."

Local sync was unreliable????????

Extremely unreliable, did you not notice?

Maybe I was a bit more careful how I used it than you - if you had unreliability problems.

Thousands of users had constant problems with MM. That you got lucky is no recommendation, take some time and read the many that posted in this forum regarding them.

applejpmc wrote:

Local sync was unreliable????????

That is rubbish

Agreed. It has always been very reliable on multiple Macs with multiple devices. If it wouldn't have been reliable I'd have started looking for alternatives years ago.

jayv. wrote:

applejpmc wrote:

Local sync was unreliable????????

That is rubbish

Agreed. It has always been very reliable on multiple Macs with multiple devices. If it wouldn't have been reliable I'd have started looking for alternatives years ago.

Are you assuming that the users (many) who had problems were making it up?

You and the other guy represent such a tiny sample of people, ones who assume that their experience represents the entire userbase. (or do you think that this is just some giant conspiracy to sell you software that is broken)

Sync systems are junk, riddled with conflicts and conflict resolution routines, MM was an excellent example of the mess.

iCloud is not a sync system so avoids the whole conflict mess.

Javv

You are absolutely correct - it worked well.

Only the iCloud fans who constantly bombard this thread with pro-iCloud nonsense seem to have had problems

jt8780 wrote:

Syncmate 5 seems to work fine with ios7 and mavericks and an iphone 4s. It's fine to say this forum is just for solving problems and people don't need to vent their frustration here but I think people are justifiably frustrated since I don't really see how Apple could get here unless they really wanted everyone to put their information in 'the cloud'; my point is there's a context in which things happen and I can at least hope this is someplace where Apple might pay attention. I'd love to hear about better places to tell the various monoliths what I think but that's surely even further off topic.

Seriously, that is just an irrelavent and highly misinformed post. If you have anything with an inkling of intelligence to add to this thread then please do so. 🙂

Pete

applejpmc wrote:

Javv

You are absolutely incorrect - it worked badly.

There, fixed it.

For the sake of all those following this thread I'm not getting into it again with you (and your groupie).

I'm not assuming anything, I speak from experience. Thousands of people whom were happy with USB sync and never had issues. The issues started when Apple's cloud syncing was introduced. MobileMe was the worst by far. Duplicates, corruption, unrecoverable data. iCloud was definitely an improvement but still had/has many issues. This is also from personal experience from a sample pool of hundreds of people a day over many years, first hand experience, not forums. Yes I hold that in a higher regard. Of course those posting here have issues, why else post here, this forum is Apple's Emergency Room, you'll find the negative far outweighs the positive.

Call it a sync service or don't, doesn't matter. What iCloud does, amongst other things, is sync data.

Then please explain to me which data is synced, and how iCloud performs a 'sync' when it has only 1 data source available.

Does it sync with itself?

It's a client/server system, not a client/client (sync) system,

jayv. wrote:

Call it a sync service or don't, doesn't matter. What iCloud does, amongst other things, is sync data.

If you choose it to. What part of choice are you not unerstanding?

Pete

This semantic argument is still going on.

Oxford dictionary definition of Synchronization

Computing: Cause (a set of data or files) to remain identical in more than one location:

Whether we use syncservices or icloud, data resides on each device even when disconnected, and it is synchronized by timestamp. This is not a thin (dumb) client scenario, so synchronization is a valid description in both cases.

OK.

Sync requires 2 sources, iCloud is 1, where is the other?

Csound 1

If you want to quote me please do NOT change what I say to the opposite of what I said.

Csound1 wrote:

applejpmc wrote:

Snozdrop

"It has been discussed before why Apple removed local syncing. Basically, it was frequently unreliable, proprietary, and was not scalable for multiple devices/computers (which many of us have these days). Technology and the way we use it does not stand still."

Local sync was unreliable????????

Extremely unreliable, did you not notice?

It was Extremely Reliable for me. No data lost or damaged.