How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

TopSteve wrote:

petermac87 wrote:

fred242 wrote:

Well, Pete, you've just confirmed the old aphorism about horses,water and compulsory drinking, or how about: "There's none so blind as those that will not see"?

What will we all argue about now that this thread will shortly shut down?

How do you interpret that? Apple will make their decision on feedback given in their feedback channel. Not here. I fail to see your point. Also, why will this thread be closed down?

Pete

Yes the feedback site is the place but what makes you so sirton/shoure of the point you keep making "Not here"? Is it not posable that some people from Apple might see the posts here?

They act on the Feedback they receive. Luckily we have given it out a few hundred times to people like yourself to use.. According to the TOU that Feedback site would be what they may base a decision on to reinstall such a feature if enough give feedback. Why? Do you have evidence to the contrary?

Pete

Unix Guru wrote:

I am a computer professional. I do not want my personal data in the cloud. My reasons ..."

No offense - but your reasons are not germaine to this query, regardless of how many times the FanBoys keep asking you to defend your wants or needs. They don't really care about your issues, they're working very hard trying to deflect... see these hundreds of pages of deflection right here.

Reminiscent of listening to Republican party dead arguments about failed economic theory, it just never seems to cease.

Perhaps you're trying to save a young person from the horrors of the internet. We should salute you. Maybe you don't want hackers or spam artists or web criminals in your kitchen. Again, you should be saluted instead.

Apple is well known globally as a pathetic web services company... ask the many faithful who lost all their photos on MobileMe, or those who had key data dumped & deleted via iCloud ... or even going back to the disasters that were Mac.com. It's not like they just started being bad - they've been lousy for about a decade. Apple's legacy of internet services is truly awful, and their track record is simply indefensible. Dropbox would not be half as successful as they are if Apple hadn't been so ****** awful.

As usual, some boneheads will try to defend the indefensible... my advice is to not respond to those stirring the pot, keep targeting your answers & questions on this topic instead.

It appears we have real solutions on the horizon; solutions that will even allow adoption of crapola software such as Mavericks. By 10.9.6, hopefully they will have solved the deep problems created by this latest version. It's not there yet but it's slowly - very, very slowly - improving.

USB local sync deprecation in Mac OS X and the corporation's full and unwavering support of it in Windows is the singular most unApple thing I've ever seen out of Apple, ever. Steve would not have stomached this. After enduring decades of Mac marginalization, it's really tough to swallow when it's Apple doing the marginalizing.

Matt Schultz wrote:

By 10.9.6, hopefully they will have solved the deep problems created by this latest version. It's not there yet but it's slowly - very, very slowly - improving.

Can you link us to Apple's intention of releasing 10.9.6? Or are you just speculating........again. Even Mountain Lion only went to 10.8.5 and then got dumped. Where are you getting your information from that no one else can apparently get hold of?

Looking forward to your link.

Thanks

Pete

petermac87 wrote:

TopSteve wrote:

petermac87 wrote:

fred242 wrote:

Well, Pete, you've just confirmed the old aphorism about horses,water and compulsory drinking, or how about: "There's none so blind as those that will not see"?

What will we all argue about now that this thread will shortly shut down?

How do you interpret that? Apple will make their decision on feedback given in their feedback channel. Not here. I fail to see your point. Also, why will this thread be closed down?

Pete

Yes the feedback site is the place but what makes you so sirton/shoure of the point you keep making "Not here"? Is it not posable that some people from Apple might see the posts here?

They act on the Feedback they receive. Luckily we have given it out a few hundred times to people like yourself to use.. According to the TOU that Feedback site would be what they may base a decision on to reinstall such a feature if enough give feedback. Why? Do you have evidence to the contrary?

Pete

Yes I do use the feedback and I think we can all agrees that is the best place! but do they act on any thing any one other then Apple say any where(hear the sarcasm in my post LOL) maybe. the TOU(I am a bit slow some times what dose this acronym stand for, no sarcasm here I realy don't know) As for evidence to the contrary? It is hard to prove a negative but your posts have an air of authority about them as perhaps you could povide evidence they don't look at some posts on a site that carries there name.

USB local sync deprecation in Mac OS X and the corporation's full and unwavering support of it in Windows is the singular most unApple thing I've ever seen out of Apple, ever. Steve would not have stomached this. After enduring decades of Mac marginalization, it's really tough to swallow when it's Apple doing the marginalizing.

Matt Schultz wrote:

USB local sync deprecation in Mac OS X and the corporation's full and unwavering support of it in Windows is the singular most unApple thing I've ever seen out of Apple, ever. Steve would not have stomached this. After enduring decades of Mac marginalization, it's really tough to swallow when it's Apple doing the marginalizing.

We saw that bit of nonsense already. Obviously you can't answer the question I asked as you were making it up to support your repeated trolling here.😉

Pete

TopSteve wrote:

petermac87 wrote:

TopSteve wrote:

petermac87 wrote:

fred242 wrote:

Well, Pete, you've just confirmed the old aphorism about horses,water and compulsory drinking, or how about: "There's none so blind as those that will not see"?

What will we all argue about now that this thread will shortly shut down?

How do you interpret that? Apple will make their decision on feedback given in their feedback channel. Not here. I fail to see your point. Also, why will this thread be closed down?

Pete

Yes the feedback site is the place but what makes you so sirton/shoure of the point you keep making "Not here"? Is it not posable that some people from Apple might see the posts here?

They act on the Feedback they receive. Luckily we have given it out a few hundred times to people like yourself to use.. According to the TOU that Feedback site would be what they may base a decision on to reinstall such a feature if enough give feedback. Why? Do you have evidence to the contrary?

Pete

Yes I do use the feedback and I think we can all agrees that is the best place! but do they act on any thing any one other then Apple say any where(hear the sarcasm in my post LOL) maybe. the TOU(I am a bit slow some times what dose this acronym stand for, no sarcasm here I realy don't know) As for evidence to the contrary? It is hard to prove a negative but your posts have an air of authority about them as perhaps you could povide evidence they don't look at some posts on a site that carries there name.

Just reposting all your pretty colours. (why do you keep doing that?)

TOU = Terms Of Use. You agreed to them when you joined this site, so I presumed you read them.

Pete

USB local sync deprecation in Mac OS X and the corporation's full and unwavering support of it in Windows is the singular most unApple thing I've ever seen out of Apple, ever. Steve would not have stomached this. After enduring decades of Mac marginalization, it's really tough to swallow when it's Apple doing the marginalizing.

Matt Schultz wrote:

USB local sync deprecation in Mac OS X and the corporation's full and unwavering support of it in Windows is the singular most unApple thing I've ever seen out of Apple, ever. Steve would not have stomached this. After enduring decades of Mac marginalization, it's really tough to swallow when it's Apple doing the marginalizing.

Thanks for assuring others that their opinion of you was justified.Not a clever way to cover up the fact that you posted unsubstantiated misinformation. 😉

Pete

Chris CA wrote:

What is why you do this?

Privacy. Apple and T-Mobile have absolutely no need to know my contacts, calendar or notes. As Unix stated, there are still very gray areas when it comes to mobile data legal issues.

DieselFuelForLife wrote:

Chris CA wrote:

What is why you do this?

Privacy. Apple and T-Mobile have absolutely no need to know my contacts, calander or notes. As Unix stated, there are still very gray areas when it comes to mobile data legal issues.

Then don't give them your information. iCloud is a choice. So are the other measures put forward here.

Pete

> Steve would not have stomached this.

Really? You must've known him well I presume?

Fact is, the deprecation of SyncServices was planned (and then executed) long before Steve's death, so it's unlikely he was not aware of it, but actually authorised it.

For all we know (due to Apple's secrecy) Apple may have been planning to retain local USB syncing all along. It might just not have been ready for the initial release of Mavericks. My guess is that instead of USB syncing being dependent on a deprecated OS X system framework, they've updated and moved the specific functionality into iTunes itself (same as on Windows). It's very unlikely they have suddenly re-instated the old SyncServices framework a few months after removing it, and 2 years after first deprecating it. Development plans don't change that quickly.

Personally as an IT Support the problem is not the luck of local syncing but rather the usable feature that you can choose which contact group or contact item (in outloook) can be selectivly synced! which i lost! and also lost ability to control easily groups!

come on apple instead of helping usability you limit it? why the Mac OS X server mentality is implimented in the old syncing service now days called cloud????

and my server metality meaning as the price was reduced 10 years ago every year we reduce the services so we can illiminate more target groups and at the end having none! nice commercial business oriented mentality Mr Cook!

alextriantafyllou wrote:

come on apple

Contact Apple at their feedback site. They will not respond to you here.

Pete

wiredancer wrote:

Hi, P J M

I'm with you 100%

... thanks to all of us that don't want to send our data in the Cloud, Apple has heard us after all. I guess some people on this thread underestimated us.

P J M don't bother in arguing with the pro-iCloud radicals, it's a waste of time.

I totally agree with the opinion of wiredancer.

Even if many of us have a lot of time underlined technical and personal or professional issue to motivate the reason that our data cann't fly on the web, but they must lay in our computer, there have been some people in this discussions, who oft have understimated our opinions (when not mocked).

This is not an opinion, you need to read back every page of this 215 pages discussion.