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How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I read that OS X Mavericks will no longer allow me to use iTunes to sync my iPhone to a local system but makes iCloud mandatory? Is that correct?


iCloud is not a valid option for me since I have no control about my data there, I need to keep all my data (contacts, calendar...) on a system under my control and so far iTunes allowed me to do that which was one of the reasons I didn't even consider Android or Windows Phone.

OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 20, 2013 8:54 AM

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Nov 6, 2013 2:42 AM in response to Drew Reece

Thank you Drew Reece for a comprehensive and actually helpful comment. I understand Apple's line of thought now, but I am thoroughly disappointed by it anyway.


So it boils down to a need for Apple to keep things simple for themselves and their developers. And there I was thinking they operated from the users viewpoint. That era is over then?

The 'truth' being stored on Apple's iCloud servers is exactly what I fear. No matter how convincing they might like to sound; other people's computers, in this case Apple's iCloud servers, are outside of my control. Therefor, not trustworthy. Let alone the often cryptic messages that you get when you want to clear something "everything on this Mac will be deleted!" No, I want to clear up some of my data, not al.... How idiotic a whish is that? The explanantion on how iCloud works lacks severely in clarity to me.


I urge Apple therefor to put a little more effort in solving that 'difficult' problem of syncing. They should have people there that are smart enough to do that, shouldn't they?

Or else, a very simple solution, give me a less smart option but well within my own realm of influence (the safety of my home). Allow local syncing if i wish so. Is it more cumbersome for me? OK, i can make that choice. I am old enough to choose! Don't force this iCloud terror down my throat is my only request.


I have issues with the environmental impact of servers running for tasks that can easily be done by myself.

I have issues with the security of my data.

I have issues with a reliance on a 100% wireless world that is no where near reality yet. (I doubt very much whether we will get or want that ever anyway)

Nov 6, 2013 3:33 AM in response to Gerrit7

Bad Apple!


Just upgraded my Apple computers to Apple new OS X Mavericks yesterday. Everything seem well till I tried sync my iPhone 5! My Calendars is not updated. Further check with Apple Support and around the Internet, I discover that now I could only sync my Calendars, and more importantly, my Contacts, with Apple iCloud!


Now, I don’t even care about the security issued, with the US spying thingy going on right now! The illogical thing is – why I want to back up my Contacts and Calendars thousand miles away when I used to do it with a sample cable to my very own computer – a Macbook Air? I tried Apple iCloud when they first introduced but it messed up my Calendars! I spent days to rebuild my Calendars, and off course, I won’t want to use it ever again other then back up my Apple SAFARI bookmarks.


And now I could only use Apple iCloud for backup my Calendars and Contacts? Why? Hard disk is quite cheap nowadays, and I would prefer to take charge of my very own PERSONAL INFORMATIONS! If Apple iTune 11 could back up all my music, pictures, apps and games, why I need to back my very own personal info to far away place? I used to have the choice (the option still exist in iTune 11/Mavericks, but it won’t backup) on iTune 11 under Lion!


What choices do I have? Use Apple iCloud and risk messing up my Calendars and Contacts again? I know my own Calendars and Contacts still exist in iCloud. Apple iCloud will certainly attempt to merge all the info, and I will have a messy Calendars and Contacts! Go through other means of syncing? I am not so smart to do all that!


I guess that’s mean I have to go back to the old fashion way – using a paper based organizer or diary! This also mean I will lost of my old records – from 2009 to October 2013 – if I upgrade to the next iPhone!


Part of the reason I become an Apple Computer user (I switch in Year 2000) is because of it simplicity! The easy sync part between Apple computer and Apple iPhone is also quite seamless!


With that advantage destroy by Apple itself, I don’t see why I should support Apple products anymore! I was considered to by a new Apple iPad Air, not anyore! I might not even consider buying the next Mac computer or iPhone!


Unless Apple give me back the right to backup my own Calendars and Contacts! Otherwise, Apple can go screw itself!


Allan Foo from Singapore

Nov 6, 2013 6:23 AM in response to Gerrit7

For those who thinking of switch to Apple iCloud, my advise is too wait for awhile to see what is Apple respond! The reason is because once you switch to iCloud, whatever backup in your computer system will be ERASE! Just in case with some luck, Apple willing to turn-on the SyncServices again, you will have to go through the painful process of rebuilding your Contacts and Calendars! I experience that problem before, that's why I stop using iCloud for my Contacts and Calendars!

Nov 6, 2013 7:08 AM in response to Gerrit7

Car manufactures are producing variations of their models for different markets. Apple should do the same and produce a version of OS X for the US market with a lot of bling bling, simplicity, lack of choices,etc... and one version for Europe/Asia which focuses on privacy and the freedom to choose which feature one wants to use.

Nov 6, 2013 8:35 AM in response to Matt Schultz

Hi Matt,

I have replied to you (though it's for anyone really) because we discussed this method earlier, been busy since then so it's taken a while.


Anyway, All, here it is so far, NOT TESTED YET, I'll probably do that tomorrow, so comments please (constructive ones please!) before then if possible. I also need to learn how to make it executable.


Replace username with your own login name.


I have built in safety checks where I can. It's a long time since I did any shell programming (1995 I think) so it was a bit of a relearning situation. I'm sure I'll get loads of comments from those who program all the time.


I am still a little concerned about what happens to the iCloud copy, espescially as it appears to be hosted by Microsoft and Amazon, it would be nice to know that it does get deleted but can 'they' be believed.



Chris.

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#Sync Procedure




echo “ENSURE YOU HAVE AN UP_TO_DATE BACKUP!”

echo “ “

echo “/Users/username/Library/Calendars.bak will be overwritten by this procedure, rename it if you want to keep it! (If it exists).”

echo “ “

echo “/Users/username/Library/Calendars will be copied to /Users/username/Library/Calendars.bak.”

echo “ “

echo “/Users/username/Library/Calendars will then be overwritten by your new synchronised Calendar.”


#Change to correct directory

cd /Users/username/library

if [ "$?" = "0" ]; then

pwd

else

echo "Cannot change directory!"

exit 1

fi


#Copy “Calendars” directory to ../Calendars.bak


cp -Rf ../Calendars ../Calendars.bak

if [ "$?" = "0" ]; then

echo “Calendar backup completed.

else

echo "Cannot backup Calendar, quiting!”

exit 1

fi


#Prompt to turn on sync on iPhone and await confirmation

echo -n “Turn on Calendar sync on your iPhone and press Y when done or any other key to quit > “

read input

case $input in

# Check for Y

Y ) echo "You confirmed your iPhone is ready to sync”

;;


# Check for anything else

* ) echo "You did not type a Y.”

echo “Ensure you have turned OFF Calendar sync on your iPhone, (select RETAIN DATA LOCALLY).”

echo “Quiting.”

exit 1

esac



#Prompt to turn on sync on Mac and await confirmation


echo -n “Turn on Calendar sync on your Mac and press Y when done or any other key to quit > “

read input

case $input in

# Check for Y

Y ) echo "You confirmed your Mac is ready to sync”

;;


# Check for anything else

* ) echo "You did not type a Y.”

echo “Ensure you have turned OFF Calendar sync on your Mac.”

echo “Quiting.”

exit 1

esac


#Leave time for sync to occur

echo -n “Wait for sync to complete then press Y > “

read input




#Change to correct directory


cd /Users/username/library

if [ "$?" = "0" ]; then

pwd

else

echo "Cannot change directory!"

exit 1

fi


#Copy “Calendars” directory to ../Calendars.bak


cp -Rf ../Calendars ../Calendars.bak

if [ "$?" = "0" ]; then

echo “Calendar backup completed.

else

echo "Cannot backup Calendar, quiting!”

exit 1

fi



#Prompt to turn off sync on Mac and await Confirmation


echo -n “Turn OFF Calendar sync on your Mac and press Y when done. > “

read input

case $input in

# Check for Y

Y ) echo "You confirmed your Mac sync is turned OFF”

;;


# Check for anything else

* ) echo "You did not type a Y, quiting.”

exit 1

esac


#Prompt to turn off sync on iPhone (retaining data locally) and await Confirmation


echo -n “Turn OFF Calendar sync on your iPhone, (select RETAIN DATA LOCALLY) and press Y when done.> “

read input

case $input in

# Check for Y

Y ) echo "You confirmed your iPhone sync is turned OFF”

;;


# Check for anything else

* ) echo "You did not type a Y, quiting.”

exit 1

esac



#Copy “Calendars.bak” directory to ../Calendars


cp -Rf ../Calendars.bak ../Calendars

if [ "$?" = "0" ]; then

echo “Local copy of Calendar completed.

else

echo "Cannot make local copy of Calendar, quiting!”

exit 1

fi


#Notify Completed and await acknowledgement


echo “Procedure Complete.”

echo “Your iPhone and Mac Calendars should be in sync and a copy held in /Users/Libraries/Calendars.bak.”

echo “The iCloud copy should have been removed.”

echo “Press any key to Quit.”

read input

#Close App

exit 0

Nov 6, 2013 10:39 AM in response to DiederikStaay

DiederikStaay wrote:


Thank you Drew Reece for a comprehensive and actually helpful comment. I understand Apple's line of thought now, but I am thoroughly disappointed by it anyway.


So it boils down to a need for Apple to keep things simple for themselves and their developers. And there I was thinking they operated from the users viewpoint. That era is over then?

The 'truth' being stored on Apple's iCloud servers is exactly what I fear. No matter how convincing they might like to sound; other people's computers, in this case Apple's iCloud servers, are outside of my control. Therefor, not trustworthy. Let alone the often cryptic messages that you get when you want to clear something "everything on this Mac will be deleted!" No, I want to clear up some of my data, not al.... How idiotic a whish is that? The explanantion on how iCloud works lacks severely in clarity to me.





Personally I think Contacts & Calenders are not what really concerns me. I'd prefer local control of my data if at all possible and can't see the point of my data going on a 6000 mile roundtrip to sync between devices in the same room but keychain syncing is the real worry.


Imagine all of your password data mushed into damaged records by a sync that has 'become out of sync'. The most critical part of those records (passwords) is 'essentially invisible' until you unlock each item with a password.


Fixing that would be beyond impossible with Apple's current tools. I think you would have to export to plain text to make any sense of duplicates & out of date entries.


We had keychain syncing with .Mac and MobileMe, it allowed us to backup before a sync & resolve conflicts, now Apple places a little too much faith in the cloud for my taste.


I'm glad you liked the post, I was hoping it would quieten the senior members that are simply jumping on all the new users here, the new users may be making incorrect assumptions, but it is clear they are upset & need some help.

Nov 6, 2013 11:00 AM in response to Drew Reece

Drew Reece wrote:



Apple has moved the large part of the sync burden onto their own servers. It simply means that 'the truth' e.g. the definitive version of your data is on their servers.



Fine... And how do I make a backup of that definitive version? I don't see any way on icloud.com to download a backup copy of my contacts in a handy single file or to say 'forget every contact you know, these are the contacts to use (upload file)' if something goes wrong.


After all, people have reported data loss and at least I do like to have local backups which I can then declare the definitive version if I feel like it.


The only way I currently see is to use the export function of the address book application and hope that it is identical to whatever is in the cloud. Restore might be a bit more tricky.


Local WiFi Sync or USB sync haven't eaten my contacts yet.

Nov 6, 2013 11:47 AM in response to Gerrit7

Wow! I went out of town Saturday, I ignored this thread from Saturday (11/2) until today and this thread went from 32 pages to 42 pages and we are no further with a reasonable solution than we were a couple of days after Mavericks was released.


I was going to replace my iMac, 2 iPhones and 2 iPads this year, but I just can't see doing that until there is a solution to the iCloud/local sync problem that I find acceptable.


Someone else said that Apple went from "It just works" to this. Apple went from "our local computer is the hub of our digital lifestyle to iCloud being that hub". I want control of my hub back localally.


I have not seen any evidence that Apple even acknowledges that the loss of local sync is a problem for even some users. I guess they just don't know that it is a problem... So much for all that fedback some (me too) have sent to Apple.


I am still hopeful that this will generate a hole for a 3rd party solution to fill.


Andy

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