How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

irish1811. Your issue isn't even remotely related to this issue.

You can only sync media with one itunes library at a time. If you change to a different iTunes library as you have done, the media will have to be wiped from the phone and re-synced.

The issue being discussed is the fact that sync services, which is used to synchronize calendars and contacts locally with an iOS device, has effectively been removed from OS X Mavericks.

At some point, doesn't the need for privacy trump ease of use?

I plan to upgrade my iMac and Macbook Air from Mountain Lion to Mavericks, AFTER it allows for USB syncing.

Of course, that means I won't be able to buy a new iMac or a new MacBook Air until that happens.

Ok, thanks! Sorry for chiming in...

I guess you'll be switching to something else then, eventually...

Why are people so paranoid about syncing contact and calendar information with a cloud service? If the people you know or your appointment schedule could really get you in that much trouble, you shouldn't even be using a cell phone, much less a smart phone... If you think information about you is secure just because you don't sync with a cloud service, you've been smoking some really good stuff...

You still haven't answered what one is supposed to do when you have no internet connectivity. At the moment I can sync just fine in that situation. And no, it's not that uncommon if you travel a lot and don't subscribe to data.

That's my complaint, not the privacy issue. Just the destruction of a feature to replace it with an inferior one. There is no good technical reason to not allow both types of sync to coexist.

A secondary complaint would be the way it has been implemented: with zero communication. That's on Apple.

What do you mean "don't subscribe to data"? No supported iPhone carrier permits the use of an iPhone without a data plan, either monthly post-paid or as part of a pre-paid service. You can't "not" subscribe to data... And if you somehow don't, it's not a big deal. Sync will take place when you connect to WiFi.

your not alone Steve !!!

KiltedTim, I'm not paranoid about a cloud service: I would subscribe to one if I could have a bilateral contract.

And it's not the people in my contacts that could get me (or some other ones who posted earlier) into trouble. It's those who might steal the info, and the law that protects the privacy of the people in my contacts.

Have you not read the news recently? About the hacking of Adobe, or the X, Y and Z company? What about Snowden?

But the real point is the one that winglet also makes: why make it impossible to sync off-line? Why make something extremely complex and remove the simple version?

Why remove it? Because the implementation was non standard... And with the exception of those of us who actually seem to have a clue, which is apparently a very small minority of the world population, and an even smaller percentage in terms of iPhone users, very few people apparently ever used the feature and synced anything with their local contacts, etc... Witness all the people who are confused when some rogue app hoses their contacts that have not been synced with anything...

This has gone beyond the scope of these forums, though.

The technical question has been answered. No, you can't sync contacts and calendar info via USB to OS X Mavericks.

The rest of the discussion is one of Apple policy decisions, which is prohibited by the TOS.

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winglet

You still haven't answered what one is supposed to do when you have no internet connectivity. At the moment I can sync just fine in that situation. And no, it's not that uncommon if you travel a lot and don't subscribe to data.

That's my complaint, not the privacy issue. Just the destruction of a feature to replace it with an inferior one. There is no good technical reason to not allow both types of sync to coexist.

A secondary complaint would be the way it has been implemented: with zero communication. That's on Apple.

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This is exactly my concern. Although I am concerned about Apple (or anyone else) having access to my contacts list to protect my friends and family's privacy (I have been trusted with their info, not Apple or anyone else)

I want the abiliy to keep my data secure from loss, not be dependent on someone elsees whim wheither they will continue a service. I want to know where my contact info is and have full access to it and full responsibility for keeping it secure from data loss and or misuse.

Right now I have a 2009 iMac, several MacBooks, two 1st generation iPads (one for me, one for my wife) and 2 iPhone 3GS (again, one for me and one for my wife). I have been waiting for technology updates to be significantly better than what I currently have and this was going to be my year to replace my iMac, the iPads and iPhones.

Then along came Mavericks and the loss of local syncing. I cannot replace these devices until I have a plan and a system in place to allow me to do local syncing with Mavericks, because whe I upgrade the only option will be Mavericks and IOS , no toption to run old OSes on new HW. If this involves setting up a home server (I already use one of the MacBooks for a music and video host running iTunes, so it is on all the time already).

I am not saying I am going to dump Apple, I just need to find a way to get my data security back in my control. I do not trust Apple or anyone else with that job, (I have no contact lists online) I have been doing it for years and I will continue to do it no matter what it takes.

I am still hoping someone will either let those of us who would like to set up a home server know where to go for resources or maybe someone with the expertise can publish a step-by-step (not free, maybe a good project for someone at TidBits maybe) to help those who would like to regain control of their data and move on to Mavericks.

Thanks,

Andy

Thanks for the information about the deprecated technologies being used prior to Mavericks.

I'm confused as to why Apple couldn't use the new/recognized standards (CalDAV and CardDAV) between devices however. Is there something in the standard that requires that this protocol be done via servers in the cloud? Would it have been possible to have the protocol followed but between devices instead?

I realise that this might require that the owner's computer becomes a "server" for this limited purpose, but I don't see that being a problem. Most users won't care "how" it's done, just that it's done in a way that they can use simply and within the legal restrictions that many face for securing data.

For those who have already upgraded to Mavericks, does it also require that Music, Videos, Photos also be sync'd via iCloud or can that still be achieved via USB cable / local wifi?

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kllewyMac wrote:

For those who have already upgraded to Mavericks, does it also require that Music, Videos, Photos also be sync'd via iCloud or can that still be achieved via USB cable / local wifi?

Yes, Apps, music, audiobooks, iBooks, photos, can all still be sync'd via wifi or USB. You can also still backup in iTunes the same way.

Sync services only affected contacts, calendars and email account sync'ing.

I know because we are releasing a FREE upgrade we can remove all of the features that are actually useful for people that CANT or WONT use iCloud.

You're close to crossing the line between simple paranoia and tinfoil hat paranoia...

Your point is irrelevant so far as these forums are concerned. Read the TOS.