How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

KiltedTim,

You really have no clue. Not all iPhone users are in the US. I am not. It's only in the US and Canada where they use the outdated model of locking you to a contract, a carrier, and a data plan. Even that is slowly changing with the release of unlocked, contract-free phones with T-Mobile and the like. But I was one of the first adopters of the iPhone in 2007, and have owned several iterations since, all without data plans.

The simple fact is that functionality has been removed, without discussions nor consultation with the people who actually pull out their wallets. I'm no Luddite, and I'm pro industry standards. But don't insult people's intelligence, or even Apple's engineers, by trying to imply that Apple just had no choice anymore but to use network-based sync.

I work as an airline pilot based in Dubai. The world is a lot bigger than the US of A. And that's only going to increase with the push into China. Trust me, not everyone can, or wants to, depend on network connectivity to perform the simple task of having a common contact list or calendar.

Hope I put that simply enough.

winglet wrote:

KiltedTim,

You really have no clue. Not all iPhone users are in the US. I am not. It's only in the US and Canada where they use the outdated model of locking you to a contract, a carrier, and a data plan. Even that is slowly changing with the release of unlocked, contract-free phones with T-Mobile and the like. But I was one of the first adopters of the iPhone in 2007, and have owned several iterations since, all without data plans.

Sorry.. You seem to have a reading comprehension problem. I did not say anything at all about being locked into a contract. What I said was that NO SUPPORTED IPHONE CARRIER ON THE PLANET permits the use of an iPhone on their network without either a post paid or pre-paid data plan.

Whether you have used an iPhone without a data plan in the past or currently is completely irrelevant.

This entire discussion is pointless and a violation of the TOS. The technical question has been answered.

@KiltedTim,

In other words, you have no constructive response to the legitimate concerns being raised.

You are completely incorrect about no supported carriers permitting iPhones on their networks without a data plan. So factually wrong, that it actually renders your other arguments suspect. There are literally millions of iPhone users without data plans whatsoever. The contract remark I made was completely on point: most carriers outside North America do not require you to sign on for a data plan. In most countries the laws even forbid a carrier to require it. Educate yourself. Travel a bit.

I don't think anyone is under any illusions about the answer to the "technical question" as to whether local syncing is possible, judging by the amount of discussion taking place on this and many other forums. If some senator was worried about Apple giving away anonymous device location info, it will be interesting to see what happens now that Apple requires you to push your entire contact list and personal calendar throught the cloud lol.

And if the discussion is pointless, do be sure to consider your own participation in it.

Also grrr. Agree with all of the privacy, own-my-own-data, local control is good arguments in this thread. Kudos to boglott. Also a link for the not so faint of heart, but should not be too hard:

http://www.ronregev.com/misc/pim_server_tutorial/

I will be doing so on my MBA and thus have local sync where ever I happen to be. Using a bluetooth PAN also gives way around any WiFi challenges.

Asuming the above works... done and done.

I'm agreed with you.

I'm relieved I do not upgraded to Mavericks now. I'm ready to doing it when local sync (wifi and USB) will available in all OSX systems.

I'm thinking now :

Facebook promised about private : false

Yahoo mail inviolable : false

Google spying users'live through ads : true (:p)

Microsoft doesn't do efforts about viruses : true (:c)

...

Why not about Apple ?

Wi-fi isn't the issue. In a pinch you could always create an ad-hoc network (cause hey Apple, that's wayyyy more elegant than a USB cable!).

The issue for me is lack of internet connectivity. It's not quite as ubiquitious as you think. Should be interesting as the user base in places like China where broadband penetration isn't quite what it is in the US (!!) starts to pick up speed.

On the other hand, they may just wisen up and stick with Android and skip the whole walled-garden thing.

KiltedTim

If I remember correctly you started the paranoia topic ..and you are right this is beside the point, as is whether or not cloud syncing is the 'correct' way. Here are a bunch of people who for whatever reason are looking for a solution to sync locally (whether you agree with it or not also beside the point). I have read some techie jargon about standards, obsolescence and stuff, which frankly is irrelevant to me, Apple has proven before that they can solve whatever they want.....when they were still thinking about customer needs.

The question has not been answered, because we have not found a solution as unfortunately, even if that will be the only route, the server option is an overkill to solve this problem and frankly scares the **** out of me.

OK. Here are the facts. This feature is not available in OS X Mavericks. If that makes people unhappy, they are free not to use OS X Mavericks. Nothing anyone here can say about it will alter reality.

The "solution" is not to use OS X Mavericks if you require local sync of calendars and contacts without going through a cloud service. There is NO OTHER ANSWER that anyone here can give. Yes, the server route is an option. If it's not a viable option for you... well, you already have the answer.

I agree completely with winglet, as I am also frequently travelling.

And both my wife and I have an iPhone that is not on any dataplan. We bought the phones, then independently of that got a SIM card from operators who don't even know what phones we have.

And yes, I am "free not to use OS X Mavericks". Except that I have invested a lot in software and accessory hardware, totalling much more than the cost of a retina laptop.

Things are deeply intertwingled (as Ted Nelson would say). I cannot just switch away from Apple. I cannot just keep using my old system either: some security fixes require upgrades in other parts of my total computing platform, some day I will have to go.

"Freedom" not to use Mavericks is relative. Underlying the a worries of many on this thread is that some day they will have to go to Mavericks for any or all of the reasons I cited, and will find themselves in a dire strait.

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KiltedTim North-East Ohio

OK. Here are the facts. This feature is not available in OS X Mavericks. If that makes people unhappy, they are free not to use OS X Mavericks. Nothing anyone here can say about it will alter reality.

The "solution" is not to use OS X Mavericks if you require local sync of calendars and contacts without going through a cloud service. There is NO OTHER ANSWER that anyone here can give. Yes, the server route is an option. If it's not a viable option for you... well, you already have the answer.

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This is a rather simplistic reply. Of course everyone ie free to NOT use Mavericks, but you are leaving out those of us who purchase new devices... They MUST use Mavericks.

This is my dilemma, I am ready to purchase new equipment and I want to maintain local sync.

It has been said that one could use server (simply, or maybe not simply, it could be difficult, I just don't know).

What I need is a reference to how I would do local syncing with server.

Do I put all my calendar and contact info on the server, then sync through iTunes on my (non-server) device?

Or how do I sync my IOS devices (IOS 6 and 7) using a local server?

I guess local sync of music, movies and photos still happens locally through iTunes?

No longer complaining or lamenting the loss of functionality all am asking for here is a pointer to a resource so I can learn how to do all of this.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks,

Andy

Well.

Good enough.

So I've done the Icloud sync of my calendar, but the sync has crashed, result : I don't have my calendar anymore my all planning for this year just gone. Verifying on Icloud I got the calendars but not the events.

So I try to restore my calendars from tim machine... The new calendar app didn't open any file from my library.

Thanks Apple.

Somenone have a solution just to restore my calendars from my Time Machine back-up ???

It already started with the app notes, which could not be synct vie USB / WIFI before. It is logic, that apple won't give you power to sync calendar and contacts too. All those who use iMessage, Whatsapp whatever do not have control about their data anyway. So lets use iCloud and acitvate the GPS. There is nothing more to lose from now on, because it is already lost. More to come. Big data just has started.

@KiltedTim

Thanks for the enlightenment, would have never guessed it and the response helped me a great deal....are you on Apple payroll?

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Frogoff

Well.

Good enough.

So I've done the Icloud sync of my calendar, but the sync has crashed, result : I don't have my calendar anymore my all planning for this year just gone. Verifying on Icloud I got the calendars but not the events.

So I try to restore my calendars from tim machine... The new calendar app didn't open any file from my library.

Thanks Apple.

Somenone have a solution just to restore my calendars from my Time Machine back-up ???

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@Frogoff

I had a similar problem back in June 2012. I tried to sync with iCloud and things went horriblly wrong. After much nashing of teeth I figured out a way to revert to local syncing back then for that verison of OS X and IoS

Here's what I did... https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3948218?answerId=20119458022#20119458022

The unfortunate thing is that I required I have a good set of my calendars and contacts on an iDevice. I didn't do it from a Time Machine back-up. Here's hoping you hava an up-to-date iDevice.

Or if you have a recent clone back-up you might try booting from it and restoring an iDevice, then follow the procedure I did in June 2012.

I hope this helps,

Andy D

KiltedTim wrote:

OK. Here are the facts. This feature is not available in OS X Mavericks. If that makes people unhappy, they are free not to use OS X Mavericks. Nothing anyone here can say about it will alter reality.

I have no idea what would make you say that. Companies change policies all the time as a result of receiving negative feedback from customers. Perhaps the most high-profile, recent example of that would be Netflix's abandonment of Quikster.

How would Apple become aware of people being uncomfortable with being forced to use the cloud unless, you know, we actually told them about it?