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How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I read that OS X Mavericks will no longer allow me to use iTunes to sync my iPhone to a local system but makes iCloud mandatory? Is that correct?


iCloud is not a valid option for me since I have no control about my data there, I need to keep all my data (contacts, calendar...) on a system under my control and so far iTunes allowed me to do that which was one of the reasons I didn't even consider Android or Windows Phone.

OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 20, 2013 8:54 AM

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Oct 25, 2013 5:41 AM in response to Z001

It's true - I'm using OS X 10.8.5 with iTunes 11.1.2 and local sync works.

Z001 wrote:


I have not tried that but reading the help documentation of iTunes it appears that the removal of local sync is more a Mavericks issue than iTunes. This is the notification at the end of the section still talking about syncing calendar and contacts locally in iTunes 11.1.2:


"Note: These instructions apply only if you use OS X v.10.8.5 or earlier. If you use OS X Mavericks v.10.9 or later, your contacts, calendars, and other info are updated on your computers and iOS devices via iCloud. For more information, see iCloud Help at icloud.com."



It seems iTunes 11.1.2 must work fine with earlier version of OSX as well, without loss of local sync (have not tested this though!).

Oct 25, 2013 6:15 AM in response to The_Patcher

After 9-Pages of this Thread, I do think it important that Community Members know that Yes you can connect your iPhone with iOS 7.03 to your Mac with 10 X Mavericks and Sync without fear of breaking your Mac or your iPhone.


Typically, if you have New photos on your Camera Roll your iPhoto will open upon connecting your iPhone to your Mac. Your New Cameral Roll photos can then be Imported in the normal way.


After closing iPhoto, you can click on iTunes (latest version) and it will open. At the upper right of your Computer Screen you will see (as normal) a box with "iPhone" written in it. Click on this Box or Button and you will see your iPhone recognized and connecting, and the Mac iTunes screen will go to the typical iPhone Summary Screen. Your Status will say that you are on the current iOS release.


At the bottom right of your Mac iTunes Screen you will see the Sync button (as Normal). Click on Sync and the Sync will begin. It will proceed through the 8-Steps, ending with a "Waiting for Copying" notice. At this point because of what you have read on many recent Posts you will probably worry that this will never end and your iPhone will be hosed ...but have no fear after additional items are copied you will see perhaps one more "Waiting for Copying" and then the Sync will complete successfully. If iCloud was accessed to accomplish this you will not notice such a routing.


This experience may differ depending on what items you have selected for your Sync, but your iPhone and your Mac will be fine.

Oct 25, 2013 6:25 AM in response to WiseJD

WiseJD


I can agree with what you are saying as far as photos, etc. syncing fine and iPhone not wiped. Are you saying you also found the cure of being able to locally syncing EVERYTHING we used to in the pre-Mavericks era? Don't quite get your point in relation to the original issue relating to calendars and contacts.

Oct 25, 2013 6:34 AM in response to Z001

Good question, Z001, I am not saying I have found any "cure", but I do have a concern that all Community Members may not be encumbered by the definition of words like "Locally" and may be reading this Thread thinking that they cannot do a normal Sync using their iPhone with iOS 7.03, their Apple Charging / USB Cable, and their Mac with OS X Mavericks. The only reason for my post is to offset the possible concern that a typical Sync in your Home the way they have always done it does in-fact work. Specific iPhone Content and Apps that actually Sync may or may-not work due to their own selections and by changes that Apple introduces ...but I really don't want some folks to be afraid to Sync the way they always have.

Oct 25, 2013 6:34 AM in response to The_Patcher

Yes, me too. 11.1.2 in Mountain Lion retains the Info tab and still allows USB sync of calendars and contacts. To reiterate, it's all well and good if people want to argue in here, but PLEASE submit feedback to apple.com/feedback. By the way, I did a full restore back to 10.8.5 from a Time Machine backup, and I won't upgrade to Mavericks until Apple adds USB contacts/calendars sync ability back.

Oct 25, 2013 7:39 AM in response to Keymusic88

Keymusic88,


How did the restore go? Any issues, complications? I am still toying with the idea, although I have to say I like all other aspects of Mavericks other than the sync. It seems to have made my 2010 Macbook Air a lot faster. ....I am just back in the stone age as far as calendar management concerned: running two separate calendars like in the good old age of filofaxes and rolodexes....

Oct 25, 2013 8:15 AM in response to Gerrit7

Wow, this has been one of the longest, if not the longest thread on any topic that I have been involved with.


After spending much of the day yesterday trying to find out more about the OS X Server option as it relates to syncing, here is what I believe I understand about the Mavericks - local - (USB) syncing of calendars and contacts using iTunes.


1. Not possible with Mavericks.


2. It is still possible with OS X 10.8.5 and iTunes 11.1.2.


3. One can install OS X Server and restore local control and syncing of calendars and contacts, over WiFi, but not USB.


4. It seems that I can repalce my iDevices with new devices that run iOS 7.x and still use them with 10.8.5 and iTunes 11.1.2 and retain the use of local (USB) syncing.


5. If I want to retain my local syncing I cannot replace my iMac with a new iMac because by the time I am in the position to repalce my iMac they will come with Mavericks installed.


The above is what I believe we have discovered in this thread.


Also, I did write to Apple to express my concerns about my situation (wanting to retain sole local control, storage and backup of my calendar and contacts). Someone remarked that that is the only way to get things changed, I hope more of you will write well thought out, comments to Apple expressing your concerns about your situation, (not threats) about the current situation with Mavericks and Local (USB) syncing.


I do have a question for those of you who installed Server.


If the only reason I want Server is for syncing of calendars and contacts can I just run server when I want to sync?


If for some reason Server must run continously (not a problem) does it run as an App just like any other App?


If so, could I stil run iTunes 24/7 as my music and video host?


Thanks,


Andy

Oct 25, 2013 9:02 AM in response to Z001

Z001,


I first tried the restore over the air from my Time Capsule. Since I have just under 300 gb, it was going to take about 13 hours. After about a quarter of the way through, it stopped with an error saying it couldn't restore some of the files. So I restarted the restore with an Ethernet cable connecting the TC with my MBP. That ended up working and took about 5 hours. Everything was there just as it was at the time of the backup. The only unexpected thing was that it had to repopulate my mail into the Apple Mail app. On my computer, all my mail is local since I use pop 3 so I'm not sure what it was doing (it wasn't getting it from any servers) but after it was done, all my mail was there. I have over 48,000 emails from the last 20 years so it took a little while for all the email to be restored. After that, I chose to Rebuild all the mailboxes (from the Mailbox menu) just incase. Everything is working great now, and I'm running iTunes 11.1.2 with no problem doing the USB sync of all the data.

Oct 25, 2013 9:34 AM in response to Z001

Yes, in the few hours that I was running Mavericks, TM had made one backup. So when I went to restore, I needed to select the backup just prior to the Mavericks backup. In the list of possible restores, besides the date, TM tells you what system number that restore is, so you really can't make a mistake. After I was running Mtn Lion again, the one Mavericks backup was still in the list of backups, but that didn't affect anything in running Mtn Lion again.

Oct 25, 2013 10:14 AM in response to Gerrit7

Cher Apple, tu nous as "offert" un des plus beau système informatique qui soit mélangeant la maîtrise du hardware et software et en y ajoutant :

- la stabilité ,

- L'élégance ,

La confiance...


J'avais enfin le couple parfait , Mac sous Snow Léopard , iPhone xx...


Depuis quelques temps, tu pousses les curseurs de la stabilité et de là confiance vers le bas et pire, tu commence à dénigrer tes clients les plus fidèles , à bafouer les valeurs qui ont construit Apple .


Quand on achète un ordinateur, on fait le choix d'effectuer un travail personnel avec, pour y stocker des données, pour se créer un petit coin privé numérique .

Quand on achète un Mac, quand on achète CHER un Mac, c'est pour avoir la tranquillité d'esprit d'un système sécurisé, fiable avec un logiciel créer par une entreprise qui prônait les libertés individuelles , qui se souciait de l'expérience utilisateur , qu'il ait le choix de ses données , car bien gardées et sécurisées en local avec Time capsule.....


Aujourd'hui vous allez trop loin !


C'est quoi la prochaine étape ? Supprimer le Mac ???


Cher Apple, moi qui t'es aimée, chérie, encouragée depuis tant d'années , tu me tourne le dos , pour qui ? Le grand public ? La génération Facebook/NSA 3.0 ???

Ce sont là les valeurs qui te restent ? Avec ton histoire ?


Regarde ce qu'es devenue la plus grande entreprise de téléphone du monde, en 5 ans décimée...(et plein d'autres acteurs historiques...)


Tu veux aujourd'hui imposé la sauvegarde de données sensibles dans un nuage que tu ne maitrise même pas !!!!!


Microsoft à écouté ses clients pour sa XboxOne et paye pourtant encore cette erreur fatale, car certains ne reviendrons pas...


Il est encore temps de faire machine arrière ,

Il est encore temps de reprendre tes esprits .


Peut être est il temps de te remettre en question .

Ton Maître n'est plus là aujourd'hui , et loin de moi l'insolence de parler à sa place, mais il n'a pas commis d'erreur depuis qu'il était revenu en 1997....


Aujourd'hui tu voles de tes propres ailes, mais sur un décollage qui ne t'appartient pas... Attention au crash...

Oct 25, 2013 1:17 PM in response to Gerrit7

I'm deeply concerned about how much of my personal information is being moved away from device-to-device syncing.


Sure, iCloud gives some very smart benefits and I've been getting amongst it... to a degree.


Notes - no problem although I shy away from any confidential scribblings.

Reminders - no problem at all (you'd have to be a pretty sad hacker to find my chores interesting!)

Calendar - a little worrying to say the least and I was a cautious late-adopter.


But now email account information and all of my contacts' names, nicknames, numbers, emails, home and work addresses, and birth-dates as well? Well that sounds like a massive security car-crash just waiting to happen.


One can't help being a tad cynical about the rationale behind this move. The fact that the choice has been removed is leading my thoughts down a bit of a dark alley and I'm actually quite sad that that's the case.


It's a step too far for me and I'm kicking myself for tumbling headlong into the lush green grass of these latest updates and upgrades.


Is it really too much for a die-hard Apple fan to ask that confidential information continues to be synced directly from one Apple product to another within the latest and shiniest Apple software if one prefers it that way?


I have sent my opinion to Apple at:


http://www.apple.com/feedback/ (iCloud, iTunes and Mac OS X).

How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

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