Mavericks Finder - how default to "double click opens new window"?

ChoreoGraphics wrote:

And while you are at it, bring back double-clicking a title bar to collapse a window. Here is an idea... if you want to really do something innovative and increase "productivity", put the Finder functionality back to where it was in previous versions. If you want to add "options" for little colored dots and various alternative window behaviors, fine, but make them "options" not "defaults"!

I presume that you means Apple. Unfortunately you are not speaking to Apple here, just other users helping solve each others issue.

Please direct your enquiries and ideas to the correct Apple Feedback channel

http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

Cheers

Pete

petermac87 wrote:

Please direct your enquiries and ideas to the correct Apple Feedback channel

http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

Cheers

Pete

Pete, do you have nothing better to do than repeat the same 'advice' over and over and over ad nauseam?
As far as I can tell you just see that your mission in life is to shut-down conversation in threads by behaving (pretending) as if you are Apples sheriff.

People have serious issues with changes under Mavericks.

Let them express their problems without trying to put a lid on it because it's often only from such 'venting' that solutions are found.
Just because you do not have a problem does not mean that problems do not exist. It in fact just tells other users that you likely don't use your Mac for any real sort of business based functions so your 'advice' is therefore probably irrelevant anyway.

ChoreoGraphics wrote:

As far back as I can remember, I have double-clicked to open folders in a new window with the previous window(s) left open as I drill down. If I knew that I would not need quick access to a previous window, I would hold down the OPTION Key when double-clicking a window to get the current default Mavericks behavior. All I can guess is that the people in Apple Development assume that people don't use their Macs to make a living. I don't have time to spend hours getting basic functionality back!

Change does not equate to "progress". So far Mavericks has just been one big PITA. Have not found one of the 200 "features" yet that has been a big step forward (but you get what you pay for I guess).

• Changing the way folders open (and not for the better, just to be different)?

• Changing "labels" to little "dots" that I cannot even sort on?

This is Apple Innovation now? Moving everything from the right to the left seems to be considered an "advancement" now - just wastes time on a grande scale.

And while you are at it, bring back double-clicking a title bar to collapse a window. Here is an idea... if you want to really do something innovative and increase "productivity", put the Finder functionality back to where it was in previous versions. If you want to add "options" for little colored dots and various alternative window behaviors, fine, but make them "options" not "defaults"!

I hear you on all counts ChoreoGraphics.

Apple is big on talking-up & listing the things they add or enhance in the OS but maybe it's about time they also started issuing tech support bulletins to list what they are REMOVING so users can make sensible decisions about upgrading.

Adam Woodhams wrote:

petermac87 wrote:

Please direct your enquiries and ideas to the correct Apple Feedback channel

http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

Cheers

Pete

Pete, do you have nothing better to do than repeat the same 'advice' over and over and over ad nauseam?
As far as I can tell you just see that your mission in life is to shut-down conversation in threads by behaving (pretending) as if you are Apples sheriff.

People have serious issues with changes under Mavericks.

Let them express their problems without trying to put a lid on it because it's often only from such 'venting' that solutions are found.
Just because you do not have a problem does not mean that problems do not exist. It in fact just tells other users that you likely don't use your Mac for any real sort of business based functions so your 'advice' is therefore probably irrelevant anyway.

If you address Apple here then you need to be provided with the link to the proper feedback channel and hope that enough other users do the same so that Apple may consider addressing the issue.

Cheers

Pete

So amused to know someone else still remembers Windowshade. I took the ongoing abuse of keeping it runnng, otherwise known as unsanity.com with their haxies that they could never keep up to date as OS X kept upgrading. Thanks for that blast to the past... that was probably the most useful window management feature that existed on an OS, ever (SGI IRIX window box minimization was a close second).

Alex Geis wrote:

So amused to know someone else still remembers Windowshade. I took the ongoing abuse of keeping it runnng, otherwise known as unsanity.com with their haxies that they could never keep up to date as OS X kept upgrading. Thanks for that blast to the past... that was probably the most useful window management feature that existed on an OS, ever (SGI IRIX window box minimization was a close second).

Did you ever try WindowMizer? A few friends who were WindowShade addicts took to it after Insanity stopped their support.

http://www.rgbworld.com/extras/blog/getblog?blog_id=18

Cheers

Pete

I think I almost fell out of my chair... actual productive discussion 🙂

I tried this a while back and noticed it had a ridiculous amount of bugs with some of the apps I was using. But hey, thanks for mentioning it. It's prob been at least 6 months or so, and maybe they cleaned it up a bit.

It has been updated for Mavericks compatability. May be worth another shot. As I say, I know a few using it as they miss WindowShade also.

Pete

Yes... I too went to Unsanity's Haxies as long as I could. Finally was forced in to Windowmizer in Snow Leopard. Cheap enough, but having to "pay" to get back lost functionality and run it as a separate APP, not very elegant (it also has some occasional issues). Double-Clicking Title Bars goes back as far as I can remember. I really don't know how people get any big projects done without the ability to collapse windows - I will sometimes have 40 or more title bars collapsed across my 3 monitors and I can remember where they are "spacially". Tabs are very efficient space-wise, but I don't usually have time to track down and read every tab to find what I am looking for.

Saw another 3rd party the other day offering a way to bring back "labels" for about $50+. I guess for about $100 I can get back some of the functionality this "free" OS upgrade imposed. I expected all the lost time having to upgrade all my scores of 3rd party apps (even Dropbox), but did not anticipate so many basic Finder navigation revisions. Looks to me like all they did was switch the Command Key for the Option Key and swap their functions inversly for opening Finder windows? Hope someone impresed their boss and got a big raise!

As I said, Feedback to Apple is the best way to try to get a removed feature reinstalled. The more users give feedback, the better the chance of having it returned, Alternatively you could return to your previous system by reinstalling the backup you made before choosing to upgrade to Mavericks by following this advice

OS X Mavericks: Revert to a previous OS X version

and then leave Mavericks alone until or if ever they return the features you use daily, or find alternate workflows.

It's annoying, I realise, but as much as we can discuss here how good the removed features were, I presume that you would prefer action. Therefore the link I gave you.

Cheers

Pete

Also sent feedback to Apple on this.

Holding the Command key to open a folder in a new window is a pain as there is often another folder or file previously selected on my desktop or within a folder, double clicking opens all files/folders selected..

This was just change for the sake of change... there is no "logic" or "improvement" associated with it that I can see. By switching default behavior and modifier keys, nothing was gained - only lost time for people that have been using a Mac for years. The "FINDER" has one main function… to help people "find" things. Mavericks is fine if this is your first system and you "learn" it starting out, but for the 98% (the rest of us), these changes yield just the opposite results, for the first time in 25 years it has "SLOWED DOWN" my ability to "FIND" anything!

Can you please post a link to this 98% claim you are making so we can all make reference to it?

Thanks. Looking forward to the link.

Pete

ChoreoGraphics wrote:

This was just change for the sake of change...

You've nailed it ChoreoGraphics, that is the single most infuriating thing about these changes.
They are pointless, frustrating & decrease productivity for those of us that actually use our Macs for work.
If I wanted or needed my Mac to function like an iPad I'd be doing all my work on an iPad.
I've said before (and have said the same to Apple) they really owe it to long-time users to list what they are REMOVING from the OS with updates not just get all over-excited & breathless about what they are adding.
What I really, really don't get is why things like 'open in new window' and coloured labels (instead of those useless dots) couldn't have been retained as an option.

petermac87 wrote:

Can you please post a link to this 98% claim you are making so we can all make reference to it?

Thanks. Looking forward to the link.

Pete

I believe you'll find that ChoreoGraphics is simply making a statement, not a 'claim'.
You know, like, 99.9% of forums users really find trolling by petermac87 boorish.