Mavericks Finder - how default to "double click opens new window"?

I am old and set in my ways. I like having the Finder open a new window when I double click a folder. Since 1984 I've arranged Finder windows in positions and sizes that suit me and I have never seen any reason to change.


In Mavericks however there does not seem to be a way to default to, "double click opens new Finder window". My choices under Finder preferences are, open in the same window; or open in a tab. I don't care for either.


Does anyone know of a way to restore the traditional Finder behavior in Mavericks? Thanks in advance.

Mac Pro, OS X Mavericks (10.9), 18 GB RAM

Posted on Oct 22, 2013 5:54 PM

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Jan 7, 2014 10:57 AM in response to John Dorsey

Are other users able to double-click on a folder in window and get *either* a new tab or a new window out of it?

If I'm dubble-clicking a folder outside the finder, it always opens in a new window – not in a new tab even though I've changed the setting to make this happen. This is also frustrating... I like the tab function. But It would also be nice to be able to choose between opening a folder as a new tab or window by, let say, holding down a key while clicking or something...


Inside the finder, I still need to hold down cmd to be able to open a folder in a new tab. Doesn't matter if I've checked the box or not in the settings... It never opens a tab by default.

Jan 7, 2014 11:43 AM in response to John Dorsey

I realize some (probably all) of what you're going to read in this post has already been said, but it's spread out on this rather long topic and most people won't take the time to read all of the posts to see them. I skimmed it a bit myself after the first 8 pages or so.


First, this is my opinion. Apple has apparently been making some concessions to Windows switchers by adding OS behaviors they're used to. Until Lion, 10.7, Apple's OS never had a Cut command for files and folders. It's considered dangerous since you can make the mistake of doing another cut and losing everything from the previous cut if you hadn't pasted it somewhere yet. Lot's of users demanded it though, and it became available as Command+C as always to mark what you want to cut, and then Command+Option+V to move the files/folders to their new location rather than paste a copy.


The folder behavior discussed here has been this way since at least Snow Leopard. If the sidebar is showing, the folder you double click on opens in the same window. This is also the default behavior for Windows. Adobe gave a bit of a nod to Windows switchers by having the Mac version of Photoshop (starting with CS5, I think) default to being confined to a window frame per the way all Windows apps run which have multiple elements, rather than the Mac's normal behavior of floating palettes directly on the desktop. But again, this is my opinion, and mainly because it fits. Whether or not any of this had anything to do with Apple's decision making, I have no idea.


Anyway, to answer the OP (Original Poster), you appear to be looking for a way to make Mavericks' folders behave the same way as OS 9 and earlier. It's actually rather easy.


1) As noted, first turn off the checkbox in the Finder preferences for "Open folders in tabs instead of new windows"


2) With all folders, you first need to right click on the top gray bar of the window and choose "Hide Toolbar".


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This will give you a very standard looking OS 9 type folder window.


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By default, OS X no longer shows the number of items in a folder and available disk space as in the above image. To change that, click on the desktop so the Finder is active and choose View > Show Status Bar. You only need to do this once, not for every folder.


You do have to hide the the toolbar for every folder you open or create which has not had it hidden yet, so it gets old repeating this move, but at least the system remembers it. And believe me, this is a gift compared to any version of OS X before Mavericks. Before, if you changed just one folder to icon view, every folder on every drive changed with it. The view option until now was always global. It took until Mavericks for OS X to finally remember each folder's size and position individually.


Once you have your subfolders set with the the toolbar hidden, double clicking them will behave as you expect. They will open in their own folder, and in the last position, size and view you set it to.


At least a couple people noted you can't click a back button without the sidebar. That's right, you can't. But this is normal behavior for the Mac OS if you look way back. To backup from a folder you're currently in, you Command+click on the folder icon at the top center of the folder window and choose the folder you want to back up to:


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Actually, a better way in my humble opinion since you can back up as many folders as you want in one click instead of backing up one at a time.

Jan 7, 2014 12:02 PM in response to Kurt Lang

I am the original poster.


I want to do one simple thing, which is to double-click a folder in a Finder window and have the folder open into a new window. I do not want to open the folder into the current window or into a tab. "Open into same window" may have been the default since Snow Leopard, but it is only with Mavericks that the original, well-understood and widely employed "open into new Finder window" option has been removed entirely.


I know that I can use a modifier key to spawn a new folder window, or I can remove the (otherwise useful) toolbar and sidebar from each of my (hundreds of!) Finder windows to force the behavior, but I do not want to do either. I want to be able to use one finger to double click a folder, in a fully-functioning Finder window, and get a new window. Just like I'd been doing for 30 years.


I am sure that Apple has its reasons for shifting the Finder paradigm on us, and if they want to create tabbed windows or fuss with default behaviors, it's fine with me. What I don't understand is why Apple removed a very simple switch in the Finder interface that allowed me, without much trouble, to do what I'd been doing for so long. Now I have to jump through hoops and it's a PITA.


(I have filed feedback on this issue and urge all other posters to do as well.)

Jan 7, 2014 12:19 PM in response to John Dorsey

I want to be able to use one finger to double click a folder, in a fully-functioning Finder window, and get a new window. Just like I'd been doing for 30 years.

Then please read my post again. It describes what to do to get Mavericks to do exactly what you want. With the Toolbar hidden, double clicking any nested folder will open in its own window without having to hold down a modifier key. It's not difficult, just annoying to first have to hide the Toolbar of each folder window one at a time. There doesn't seem to be a way to keep it hidden on all folders without manually hiding them folder by folder.

Jan 7, 2014 12:52 PM in response to John Dorsey

1) have to accept a less-than-fully-functioning Finder window to accomplish this or, assuming that I didn't mind the compromise

A Finder window that isn't behaving as you would prefer by default isn't the same as less-than-fully-functioning. It functions just fine. And not just fine, but with more options than in previous versions of the Mac OS. If you like them, that is. Personally, I don't, either. I much prefer the simplicity of OS 9 and set up every folder I use on my drives to behave that way.


Manually changing every single one? Why? If it's a folder I would normally never open, like the hundreds/thousands in the System and main Library folders, and even my user account, why bother? Change them when you need to.

2) laboriously reconfigure a couple hundred (or more) Finder windows.

Couldn't agree more on that point. But until, and if Apple provides a way to create different folder defaults, you can only work with what is available. No amount of wishing will make the behavior of the OS magically change to any user's liking.

Jan 7, 2014 12:52 PM in response to Adam Woodhams

Adam Woodhams wrote:


Apple were also deceitful by omission in not telling users in any way that they had removed long-standing and well used functionality from the OS.

OS X Mavericks adds new features and capabilities to everything from the apps you use every day to the technologies that power your Mac. All of which make Mavericks our most advanced OS yet.

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Tabs

Finder Tabs make it easier than ever to manage files in the Finder. With tabs, you can consolidate all your Finder windows into one.

Merge all windows

To consolidate your Finder windows into a single window with tabs, go to the Window menu and choose Merge All Windows.

Drag to create a window

Create a new Finder window by dragging a tab out.

Customise view per tab

For each tab, you can select the view that’s most helpful to you. Keep one tab in icon view, for example, and another in list, column or Cover Flow view.

Drag to reorder

Drag tabs left or right to put them exactly where you want them.

Spring-loaded drag and drop

Easily move or copy a file from one location to another. Drag and hold a file on a tab and it will spring open so you can drop the file into any subfolder in another tab.

Tag files

You can tag a file from the Finder. Just select the file and click the new Tag button in the toolbar.

Sort by tag

The Finder includes the option to sort by tag so you can easily find the files you’re looking for.

Full screen

You can now use the Finder as a full-screen app and easily access all your folders with Finder Tabs. When you take the Finder full screen, it moves to its own space. You can swipe back and forth between the Finder and your other apps.

Drag to resize columns

In list view, you can resize a column by dragging the edge until it’s exactly the right size.

This seemed to cover all the new features in Mavericks Finder.

Jan 7, 2014 12:54 PM in response to Kurt Lang

Kurt Lang wrote:


Anyway, to answer the OP (Original Poster), you appear to be looking for a way to make Mavericks' folders behave the same way as OS 9 and earlier. It's actually rather easy.


This is not about a pre-OSX function, this is about what could quite rightly be described as core finder functionality that has been pointlessly removed in the latest version of OSX.
It has been in the OS since get-go and remained in OSX for 11 major revisions before Apple decided to needlessly strip it out without reason or warning.

Jan 7, 2014 1:00 PM in response to Adam Woodhams

Adam Woodhams wrote:



This is not about a pre-OSX function, this is about what could quite rightly be described as core finder functionality that has been pointlessly removed in the latest version of OSX.
It has been in the OS since get-go and remained in OSX for 11 major revisions before Apple decided to needlessly strip it out without reason or warning.

You know that no one here can tell you why Apple decided to remove it, so I do not know why you keep jumping in and repeating yourself and acting like it is the fault of someone here. Options have been suggested, there is nothing more you can be told. As mentioned many times, if you have a beef with Apple then tell them.


FEEDBACK http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html


Cheers


Pete

Jan 7, 2014 1:23 PM in response to Kurt Lang

An OS X window that lacks toolbar and sidebar features affords fewer functions than the default OS X window and is therefore, by defintion, not "fully functioning". It might have been fully functioning in 1999, or 2002 (whenever it was that OS X introduced these features), but it is not that today.


Yes, there is something missing from Mavericks, which was present in Lion and all the other cats, and in the Classic OS all the way back to System 1.0, namely, the option to choose that a double-click on a folder in a stock Finder window would spawn a new window for that folder. We had that option before, and now we do not. It is "missing".


I don't understand why this is controversial. It's very simple. There used to be a selection available in the Finder's preferences to do things in a particular way. Apple - fully within its rights of course but inscrutably - removed that option in Mavericks. We can't do what we used to be able to do, at least not without rejiggering a bunch of windows to look like they looked in OS 9 circa 1997.


Thank you for your post explaining how to recover some of the lost functionality. The no-toolbar trick, described a while back in this thread, is helpful and I have employed it in a couple of places, but it is at best a kludge, a second- or third-best workaround.


Finally I'm not "wishing" for anything. I've reported my concerns to Apple and they'll change it back or they won't. I won't sue them, or drop back to Lion, or buy a Dell. I'll get used to it. But I'll forever be mystified by this weird little undocumented tweak to the Finder's behavior that wasn't hurting anyone and is a pain in the keister to work around.

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