Mavericks Finder - how default to "double click opens new window"?

I am old and set in my ways. I like having the Finder open a new window when I double click a folder. Since 1984 I've arranged Finder windows in positions and sizes that suit me and I have never seen any reason to change.


In Mavericks however there does not seem to be a way to default to, "double click opens new Finder window". My choices under Finder preferences are, open in the same window; or open in a tab. I don't care for either.


Does anyone know of a way to restore the traditional Finder behavior in Mavericks? Thanks in advance.

Mac Pro, OS X Mavericks (10.9), 18 GB RAM

Posted on Oct 22, 2013 5:54 PM

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Jan 7, 2014 1:19 PM in response to Kurt Lang

Kurt Lang wrote:



Please stop the false rhetoric. Nothing is missing. It's just not the default behavior. If you can actually describe something that is missing, name it.

I beg your pardon? (!!!)


- You can no longer have the system open folders in a fully-functional new window. That has been a long standing function, some users say since System 1 in 1984.

- You can no longer tag folders with highlighted coloured labels.


These are two MISSING functions that impact my productivity & I am sure other users have found there have been other functions removed that impact on their workflow.


To argue that they are not removed just changed is to use weasel words.

If a long-standing function is gone & replaced with an inefficient & inferior substitute then that, by my definition, is 'missing'.
Kurt Lang if I took your dual 27" LCD monitors and replaced them with a 9" monochrome CRT has your monitor gone missing?
Technically no.

But you have been forced to take a backwards step which is a poor substitute for the previous arrangment and it will impact on your workflow & productivity.

Jan 7, 2014 1:25 PM in response to Adam Woodhams

You can no longer have the system open folders in a fully-functional new window.

Okay, you've shown me that you have trouble reading, or at least comprehending. I fully explained how to get folders in Mavericks to do exactly that what the OP is looking for, and is the same as the pre OS X Mac OS. It's not as simple as it should, or preferably be, but it's there. Read my post again.

You can no longer tag folders with highlighted coloured labels.

Different, yes. Gone, no. Admittedly a bit of hair splitting, but it isn't gone.

Jan 7, 2014 1:32 PM in response to petermac87

petermac87 wrote:


...I do not know why you keep jumping in and repeating yourself...

Really?

From you?


According to your summation of the way these forums operate pete users are not entitled to express opinions if they differ from Apples or yours.


As I have stated on a number of occasions I have sent feedback to Apple by both electronic feedback form and by post.
And I know this will come as a surprise to you but I did know about feedback forms before you repeated ad-nauseam that I should use the feedback form.


Both yourself & Kurt Lang would do well to be courteous and remember that just because an issue does not effect you does not mean that the issue does not exist.


You pete just enjoy trying to shut threads down, you can't leave them without having the last word, and you love baiting people.

What you did in a thread before Christmas, baiting and taunting somebody who expressed different religious views to yourself, was TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE behaviour and spoke volumes about your character.

Jan 7, 2014 1:36 PM in response to Adam Woodhams

Adam Woodhams wrote:


What you did in a thread before Christmas, baiting and taunting somebody who expressed different religious views to yourself, was TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE behaviour and spoke volumes about your character.

I do not know what you are refering to or it's relevance to this thread.


If that were the case, I would have been in breach of the TOU and removed from the forums.


Cheers


Pete

Jan 7, 2014 1:36 PM in response to John Dorsey

I am the OP

Yes, I know that. Please read the top couple of lines of each post to see who a person is responding to. I mentioned you in the third person because I was talking to Adam.

what you have explained how to do is not what I am looking to do

Please explain how it is not. You asked how you can use one hand (presumably with the mouse) to double click a folder and have it open in its own window. I fully explained it's the very simple step of hiding the Toolbar, which also hides the sidebar. Once you do that, all further use of that folder and any subfolders which have been set that way will do exactly what you are asking for.


How does that not answer your question?

Jan 7, 2014 1:39 PM in response to Adam Woodhams

Adam Woodhams wrote:


petermac87 wrote:


This seemed to cover all the new features in Mavericks Finder.


That was never in question. Your point is?...

As Apples self-appointed sheriff in these forums perhaps you can point us to the tech support document that lists the removed or seriously amended functions?

They never have before. You can suggest it to Apple though for future releases. Post it here


FEEDBACK http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html


Cheers


Pete

Jan 7, 2014 1:46 PM in response to Kurt Lang

Kurt Lang wrote:

You asked how you can use one hand (presumably with the mouse) to double click a folder and have it open in its own window. I fully explained it's the very simple step of hiding the Toolbar, which also hides the sidebar. Once you do that, all further use of that folder and any subfolders which have been set that way will do exactly what you are asking for.


How does that not answer your question?


I like the toolbar and sidebar features. I prefer windows that have them. While you may not think them useful - and therefore find windows without them to be "fully functional" - that is not the case for me. Windows that lack them are compromised and less useful. What I want to be able to do is to double click (with one hand, yes with a mouse) on a folder within an OS X window that has those useful tool- and sidebars, and have that folder open into a new window. That is what I want to do. That was possible in every OS prior to Mavericks and now it is not.

Jan 7, 2014 1:51 PM in response to John Dorsey

Ah, now that's a completely different question. You have never mentioned that you want the sidebar open at the same time as a one hand operation to open a new folder. You initial post contained:

Since 1984 I've arranged Finder windows in positions and sizes that suit me and I have never seen any reason to change.

The only logical way to take that was that you want Mavericks to behave like OS 9 or earlier, when there was no sidebar.


Given the change in your preferred operation of the OS, then you are indeed stuck at the moment. If I missed that part of your desired operation somewhere else in the long topic, I apologize. I didn't read real close after the first 8 to 10 pages.


In which case, we're back to the oft repeated suggestion. Contact Apple and request a feature change. You can't make the OS do something it currently isn't designed to do yourself. Apple is going to have to be the ones to implement the change/feature.

Jan 7, 2014 2:02 PM in response to Kurt Lang

Kurt Lang wrote:

What about my initial post do you not understand?

And I ask you the same question.


The point here is that under Mavericks long-standing functionality has been removed or decreased (depending on your "hair-splitting" definition)
Changes to the OS, which may seem like minor tweaking to some, have proved to have negative productivity and workflow impacts for others.

I get progress, I get change, but as I, and many, many other posters, have asked why not just retain these long standing functions as options? What's with the purging?
To remove them or amend them without leaving any choice to still deploy them system-wide seems to be change for the sake of change without much thought given to user workflow.
Sure the changes are not crippling or deal-breakers but they add extra steps to what were once simple processes.

It's happened in other areas too.

QuickTime for example you could always double-click a movie window to go to full screen. Now you have to use the full-screen button at top-right or use a keyboard shortcut. A pointless annoyance and essentially the removal of a long-standing and useful function (overcome by using VLC as default of course)

iPhoto was a classic example when it went from V8 to V9. So much stuff was removed or amended in a manner that slowed down doing simple tasks that it was infuriating. It made the app less useful. It may have become more powerful under the hood but that's kind of irrelevant if it takes you longer to accomplish everything.

Changes such as these may seem like nothing much to some but I really would like to know Apples rationale behind adding extra steps to what were simple processes.

Jan 7, 2014 2:04 PM in response to Kurt Lang

Kurt Lang wrote:


Ah, now that's a completely different question. You have never mentioned that you want the sidebar open at the same time as a one hand operation to open a new folder. You initial post contained:


Since 1984 I've arranged Finder windows in positions and sizes that suit me and I have never seen any reason to change.


The only logical way to take that was that you want Mavericks to behave like OS 9 or earlier, when there was no sidebar.


Given the change in your preferred operation of the OS, then you are indeed stuck at the moment. If I missed that part of your desired operation somewhere else in the long topic, I apologize. I didn't read real close after the first 8 to 10 pages.


In which case, we're back to the oft repeated suggestion. Contact Apple and request a feature change. You can't make the OS do something it currently isn't designed to do yourself. Apple is going to have to be the ones to implement the change/feature.

Well, in the beginning I didn't know about the toolbar workaround so I didn't know to specify. That option is, as I said, helpful but my excitement in discovering it faded once I realized that I really missed it. I've wound up keeping a spare, sort of throwaway, full toolbar window open on the desktop just to have that functionality handy somewhere. It's - okay, I can manage with it, but I don't care for it. (I also live in dread of inadvertently closing the one tabbed window I've carefully set up Just So, because if I do I have to go to the trouble of setting it up Just So all over again.)


As I said, I've noted this to Apple. They'll do what they want of course, which I'm guessing is, "not change it back". They didn't just remove the option from the Finder prefs but they removed it as a functioning plist parameter as well, so it's hard to imagine this happened by accident. And, 24 pages of this thread notwithstanding, I don't think enough people care about it to change Apple's mind back.

Jan 7, 2014 2:08 PM in response to John Dorsey

The original poster has made it clear what his gripe is. I agree with him. Totally. But some of you people in here,yes you lot,who think you are so smart and so clever (which you are not) are just causing annoyance. As for you,Pete,well,on second thoughts,I'm not wasting my time. So,to all who like the way Mavericks works,go start your own thread praising the OS,and leave us,who dislike the changes,to air our grievances here,because,to be frank,you are not helping anybody.

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