Mavericks Finder - how default to "double click opens new window"?

It bugs the heck out of me that I can no longer create a new folder with Command+N, which was the default keystroke for decades. With previous versions of OS X, you could make a fairly simple change to the com.apple.finder.plist file in your user account to change the behavior back, instead of Apple's fairly recent change to Command+Shift+N.

That no longer works in Mavericks since Apple assigned yet another new function to Command+N at the Finder desktop, and you can't override it anymore.

I don't like having to break years of muscle memory and trained thinking for a new folder, but it looks like I'm just going to finally have to get used to Command+Shift+N.

This

http://www.roam.it/soft/wip9/wip.zip

does hide Toolbars for 1 level or for every folder and subfolder contained in a folder you drop to application icon.

But I discovered that OS X 10.9 Finder is very buggy, so for certain folders you have to use this software 2 of three times ina row to be sure that every subfolder has it's Tollbar hidden.

But, once you did, it's definitive.

HTH.

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It's beta software, but cannot create problems; it's a modified version of this

http://www.roam.it/soft/wip8/

made to work aroud the problem in this discussion.

Already sent my feedback to Apple.

Bye

I have to agree with John, and do not quite understand why some people on this board do not get the intial issue. It's really quite simple.

I have a custom piece of software I wrote that backs up my work drive to a separate machine. Its millions of files and several directories deep. Let's assume at some point I wanted to grab a file out of backup cause I accidentally saved over something that I didn't want to. If that machine was running Mavericks, I would have to do the following:

-command click to open the primary folder, and every single folder underneath it (requires two hands)

OR

-open the primary folder and click to hide the toolbar and click to open it (twice as many click operations)

So in this case, for a fresh backup, to go N directories deep to grab my file, I either need to use 2 hands or use N clicks + N double clicks (not to mention the actual movement of the arrow to the proper menu which takes longer than both the click and double click). The original functionality is N double clicks. I would assume that means the core functionality is missing (or if you want to argue semantics, highly impared that it would be considered a negatively affected feature). I work with big data where directories and files are made and removed constantly, so the idea of hiding the toolbar so that i could double click it at a later date does not apply to me a majority of the time.

As far as the argument about apple-N losing the ability to create a new folder, I agree with that completely. It was a change, in my view a negative one as I have never needed to use the new functionality. Did I personally adapt to using command-shift-N to make my folders? No, since I actually keep a terminal window open at all times and if I'm not holding my wacom pen, I find it instinctivly faster to command-tab to terminal, mkdir -p path and not touch the mouse. If I already have my wacom in my hand and already am hovering over that folder, I will do command-shift-N, but I'd say at least 10% of the time, I still accidentallly do command-N, in which I have to then do command-W and then command-shift-N (resulting in 3 commands instead of 1).

People understand the issue, there is just nothing that anybody here can do about it.

Pete

As the original poster stated today, no.. not all people understand the issue. He was clarifying himself and I was agreeing and extrapolating on his point.

I personally do not use the side bar, I do not use the toolbar, I do not care if it is hidden or showing, and do not care to make the effort to toggle them because they do not interest me. In my specific case, I want to be able to double click to open a window without having to modify those settings. The OP put it such that he wants to be able to do it with a window that's in a "default" state (although he likes having them visible). In essence, they're one in the same argument from the functionality standpoint and several posts did not understand that.

Referenced by OP:

Kurt Lang wrote:

I fully explained how to get folders in Mavericks to do exactly that what the OP is looking for, and is the same as the pre OS X Mac OS.

I am the OP, and what you have explained how to do is not what I am looking to do. I'd say we could agree to disagree on this point, but I'm afraid I hold the trump card here!

I'd also would like to add the point that it is very important that people continue to voice their opinions here in addition to leaving feedback. The more discussion and the more active the thread, the more clout it gathers when other users who may not be aware of this google or bing when they too experience. I hope that this thread continues to gain traction and people continue to voice their opnion after leaving feedback, as to allow it to get more traction and reach more users, who will in turn leave more feedback.

Having said that, I would also add that Apple is monitoring this thread, as I have had two of my posts already removed. As they weren't conflicting with any abusive parameters of the ToS, I would imagine they were not automatically removed and either Apple personal is actively monitoring this thread, or someone on this board has been going out of their way to report me.

Read the terms of use again. It is clearly explained there.

Pete

Been there done that.

Alex

Then why are you still posting comments that clearly show you don't understand them, in reference to Apple monitoring. Also people here DO understand the issue, just not why it was removed.

Cheers

Pete

Half of yours are considered "flaming" abuse, yet yours aren't removed. Your point is? Also, you claiming that everyone here fully understands the issue after the comments posted on the thread today is naive, especially given the fact that the OP made the comment as well.

Alex Geis wrote:

I'd also would like to add the point that it is very important that people continue to voice their opinions here in addition to leaving feedback. The more discussion and the more active the thread, the more clout it gathers when other users who may not be aware of this google or bing when they too experience. I hope that this thread continues to gain traction and people continue to voice their opnion after leaving feedback, as to allow it to get more traction and reach more users, who will in turn leave more feedback.

Agree totally. Anyone insisting that the forums are ONLY for asking questions or providing answers is missing the point of an online community. It is also about healthy discussion and the voicing of opinions.

Alex Geis wrote:

Having said that, I would also add that Apple is monitoring this thread, as I have had two of my posts already removed. As they weren't conflicting with any abusive parameters of the ToS, I would imagine they were not automatically removed and either Apple personal is actively monitoring this thread, or someone on this board has been going out of their way to report me.

Yeap, same here.
Early in the piece I had two posts pulled, both within the ToS although they did contain comments that were critical of Apple.
Seems to be some censorship going on or as you said, someone playing sheriff.

Alex Geis wrote:

Half of yours are considered "flaming" abuse, yet yours aren't removed. Your point is? Also, you claiming that everyone here fully understands the issue after the comments posted on the thread today is naive, especially given the fact that the OP made the comment as well.

Where did the word 'fully' come from? You can quote here you know. And you should instead of misqupting other posters.This thread is about How to Default to "Double Click Opens New Window". The posters here seem to understand the issue pretty well (not fully, as you added), but there is no option. There never has been in Mavericks. What you consider 'Flaming Abuse' is not considered such by the moderators, obviously.

If your posts and the other dude above's posts have been removed then there was obviously a breech in TOU by you and you really should be careful what you post.

Discuss away and give your opinions. It probably won't bring them back. But do not abuse others for adding their opinions as well.

As the other dude said

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Agree totally. Anyone insisting that the forums are ONLY for asking questions or providing answers is missing the point of an online community. It is also about healthy discussion and the voicing of opinions

Cheers

Pete

Agree totally. Anyone insisting that the forums are ONLY for asking questions or providing answers is missing the point of an online community. It is also about healthy discussion and the voicing of opinions.

Not this one:

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Barney-15E wrote:

Agree totally. Anyone insisting that the forums are ONLY for asking questions or providing answers is missing the point of an online community. It is also about healthy discussion and the voicing of opinions.

Not this one:

Submissions

Stay on topic. Apple Support Communities is here to help people use Apple products and technologies more effectively. Unless otherwise noted, do not add Submissions about nontechnical topics, including:

1. Speculations or rumors about unannounced products.
2. Discussions of Apple policies or procedures or speculation on Apple decisions.

Post constructive comments and questions. Unless otherwise noted, your Submission should either be a technical support question or a technical support answer. Constructive feedback about product features is welcome as well. If your Submission contains the phrase "I'm sorry for the rant, but…" you are likely in violation of this policy.

Ummm... and I'm not sure I get your point(s) Barney-15E
'...healthy discussion and the voicing of opinions...' is both on-topic and encouraging constructive feedback so is therefore within those parameters.

"healthy" discussion and "voicing of opinions" have rarely anything to do with constructive feedback.

More often than not it is just whining and complaining.