Pages 5 features checklist

Good lord man. read. What's your problem?

PeterBreis0807 wrote:

robogobo wrote:

I agree that Apple shouldn't design an upgrade that depends on a backup for recovery. I've said several times

No you haven't. You ignored it repeatedly and then when really pushed, came up with feeble excuses.

Apple should NOT DAMAGE users work. Period.

Nor go on keeping quiet about it and let even more Users' work get damaged.

Peter

Several posts back someone (perhaps Peter) alluded to Apple breaking a developers 'code of conduct' of sorts. At this point in time do we have enough to say 'Apple was negligent of_____________'?

I'm not a developer, yet at some point I would be interested in someone elaborating this just a bit. I agree they had to have known what they were doing, I can't wrap my mind around the motive. Perhaps they were just so excited about a new technology that they were in denial over its short-comings. Yet, my gut tells me at least some of this feature incompatibility is purposeful. A Game Theorist would say when someone wantonly 'burns bridges' it is always clearly indicative of a change in strategy (for instance, removing the 3 1/2 floppy forced people to abandon them). One cannot deny Apple has done this many times in the past and I don't think it is unreasonable to think they are doing it now. I find little comfort in 100% sure speculations. I think we can all agree somewhere they stepped over the line, perhaps we should at some point state succinctly what that line was. or not....

As for me, I find Peter's objectivity remarkable under the circumstaces. By not using the product he has begun as an impartial observor and allowed the discussion itself to develop the conclusions.

cosmofromwatertown wrote:

By not using the product he has begun as an impartial observor and allowed the discussion itself to develop the conclusions.

Ha! that's rich.

I can't bring myself to use Windows so I won't be leave the Mac platform anytime soon. But by the same token, I can't bring myself to keep using Pages, which for now appears no longer useful for my law practice. I've already returned to Word for Mac, which does what I need it to do.

It's 5:30pm and I'll be up for a while exploring the new software before passing final judgement and I don't speak German.

One of the problems with relying on Time Machine, at least for me, is that I have never had a successful Time Machine transition from one OS version to the next. EVERY time that I have updated from one major OS to the next, Time Machine has been utterly unable to continue the previous backup and I've had to start over again. Same here with the upgrade to Mavericks (which is a prerequisite for getting Pages 5). Time Machine will not recognize the backup from before the upgrade and only offers to start a new one (which it can't do since there's not enough room on the disk for both the old and the new backup).

I've had that happen a few times too. I read it was a problem with permissions before the update was applied, but I never had a chance to test it. It didn't happen this time for me with 10.9. I can see how that's a huge problem when the OS update coincides with the iWork update.

robogobo wrote:

cosmofromwatertown wrote:

By not using the product he has begun as an impartial observor and allowed the discussion itself to develop the conclusions.

Ha! that's rich.

Who's being insulting now?

Like many others, after wasting a lot of time over the weekend, I have deleted the new versions of Pages and Numbers, and reverted to using the old versions which, as has been noted, were conveniently left behind.

I converted to Apple a little over three years ago with an iMac, and have been mainly singing their praises ever since. After a lifetime battling Windows life was a joy. My first disappointment was to discover that the iPad was really a toy, and not a serious replacement for a laptop, and that iWorks for iOS was useless. Not to be discouraged, my daughter got the iPad, and I got myself a Macbook Air. I used iDisk to sync files between my two computers. Happy days!

Then iDisk went when Mobile Me was dumped in favour of iCloud. I don't want 1000 pictures and a music library wherever I go, I want work files. So I adopted SugarSync and have been happily using it ever since. By the way, has anybody noticed that the new iWork files will not sync over SugarSync?

This week I was to be off to the city to buy a new high spec iMac, and donate my first machine to my daughter to go along with the iPad (lucky girl). However, if I cant get the old iWorks for a new machine, I won't buy another iMac. Has anybody any suggestions? I still have my original iWorks disk, might I do something with that, does anyone think?

um. Please tell me how that's insulting and I'll apologize. However, Peter has not allowed the discussion "itself" to develop the conclusions. He's drawn the most negative conclusions himself, even worse than those experiencing them, and added a dash of hopelessness to it and stirred very well. He's got a bone to pick with Apple, something to do with not getting enough recognition for feedback or whatnot. I don't really know. But for someone who hasn't used the software for whatever reason, he's extremely passionate about trashtalking Apple. So, it's "rich" when you highlight his objectivity.

If you get a new Mac and use the migration tool, it will bring the old iWork over and everything will look like it does on your current machine. Otherwise you should be able to install it from the old disk, or even drag it over from you other machine via file sharing.