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I hate the new tags in Mavericks, need coloured folders!!

Is there a way to return the colour folders when using the new tags like the old behavior of labels? These new circle thingees are too small and barely noticable.

OS X Mavericks (10.9)

Posted on Oct 23, 2013 6:45 PM

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Jun 19, 2014 8:15 AM in response to Lexiepex

The 2 big negatives of the new dot Tags:

1. In column view, the tiny dot is near useless it's location is so unrelated visually.

2. Sorting by tag is only relevant if you're tagging things in relation to everything on the computer.


I'm not color coding all recipes and photos I've gotten from Aunt Bertha in orange so if I click on the orange tag I can see everything on the computer she's ever sent me. Work is a lot more complex and these new tags aren't easily visible (the main purpose of a tag) and sorting by color is a nightmare of gathering too much that doesn't belong with what you want.


With #2 I mean color coding per individual folder doesn't work. Example: anything red is in progress, grey is all supporting informational documents (instructions, text files etc) relevant to the main document, green is any art, photos, etc. placed in the document, blue is an approved project and purple means it has been copied to archive. I use the yellow and oranges for stages of the edited text going into the document. Each job has it's own folder. The progress levels don't jump out in color as before, and sorting by color is a nightmare. I click on the sidebar tag's color it gives me ALL grey items for all 50 jobs I might have in progress. If you organize by job FOLDER, and not by entire computer topic, the new tag system is frustrating.


If the dot was at least BEFORE the document name in column view (like it is in icon view) that would be someone more tolerable. But way over on the right side is too disconnected especially if the column needs to be stretched out the dots are no longer even visually related to the document name.

Jun 19, 2014 9:06 AM in response to pattii55

I agree too and despite Csound1 repeated mantra that this is a tech support site not a discussion site, i believe the title "discussions.apple.com" suggested otherwise.


Despite the sarcasm and tone of some of the posts here, I find these "discussions" useful. They reflect a shared response of dissatisfaction with the current lack of the coloured labeling feature. Even though there is an option to let Apple know this through their official feedback channels (another suggestion reiterated ad nauseum) but doing so, which I did from the onset, does not provide much feedback in return. Whereas discussions often do provide ideas and suggestions. Furthermore I believe the powers that be at Apple do follow such "discussion", so these threads serve as a reinforcement making them aware of the reactions their customer base have to various aspects of their products. I'm convinced the volume of negative comments regarding this tags/lables issue will be heard by Apple and possibly taken into consideration.


For that reason I believe these "discussions" should be encouraged and I will continue to monitor them, even if that requires skimming through the soap opera parts. Now if others find that pay off to be too much of a waste of their time and knowledge, then possibly its they who should turn off the notifications as they have repeatedly recommended others doing and stick to strictly tech support threads instead, where their involvement will presumably be of greater value.

Jun 19, 2014 5:17 PM in response to cirom

cirom wrote:


Now if others find that pay off to be too much of a waste of their time and knowledge, then possibly its they who should turn off the notifications as they have repeatedly recommended others doing and stick to strictly tech support threads instead, where their involvement will presumably be of greater value.

But it is of great amusement to read posts such as yours in-between dealing with actual problems that users are having. 🙂


And if Apple drop an old feature like labels ten doesn't that give wonderful opportunity to third party developers to fill that void for the few who require it? Some already have. TotalFinder, XtraFinder etc. Good for the economy!


Cheers


Pete

Jun 20, 2014 12:40 AM in response to JamesConnolly

JamesConnolly wrote:


Good for you Cirom.

A welcome breath of fresh air, and a good discussio there, and a good antidote to "this is a tech site" with the implied superiority in technical knowledge which is probably not warranted.

You are the one filling this thread with irrelevant drivel.


- question

- answer

- Constructive comment


are the three types of reply welcome here, look at the terms of use and etiquette sections. Yours are becoming none of these, and if you say "well Csound1 started it" you will just show yourself up as a tw@t again.

Jun 21, 2014 11:03 AM in response to Madashelluphere

There is no way to return to the old method of labeling/prioritizing files and folders. And Apple is far too convinced of its own righteousness on design issues to admit it made a mistake.


The obvious flaw in the new circle-highlighting method is that it reduces the highlight to the same level of information as the content of file name. In the past we'd put an understroke or some other character at the head of a filename to signal its importance (still can). The old style of highlighting elevated labeling in the way that it should be elevated — to different level of information easily spotted. As it is, the colored circle is lost in the visual noise of the characters of the filename.


If you use ebooks there is an obvious parallel. Add a note to text in Amazon's kindle, and kindle puts a tiny note symbol in the text — always blue. Apple's iBooks puts an easily-spotted square of the same color as your highlight — perfect. Why Apple doesn't understand on visual information is processed in file schemes is anybody's guess.

I hate the new tags in Mavericks, need coloured folders!!

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