Does the new Macbook Pro 15" (late 2013) supports 4K via Thunderbolt/Displayport?

I understand that the new Macbook Pro 15" (late 2013 with Nvidia) supports 4K screen resolutions via HDMI at low hertz. But does it support 4K via Thunderbolt/Displayport? I read on Intel's web that the NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M with 2GB memory in theory can support it. Would be important as a range of new 4K 32" monitors will come out over the next year. Would be great for photo, video editing etc.

MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X Mavericks (10.9)

Posted on Oct 24, 2013 2:48 AM

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Posted on Dec 22, 2013 5:03 AM

I've just found this information http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5918?viewlocale=en_US


Note that these displays default to 30 Hz (instead of 60 Hz) and need to be manually configured to 60 Hz using the display's built-in controls.

  • For the Sharp PN-K321, you can modify this under Settings > DisplayPort STREAM.
  • For the ASUS PQ321Q, you can modify this under OSD menu > Setup > DisplayPort Stream.
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Mar 20, 2014 9:11 PM in response to mg428

Unfortunately, I am not. However I did update to latest beta released today and 1080p does work now on my dell along with fixes to chrome or the beamsync application, it runs without me having to manually turn off beamsync.


1080p retina scaled is very very nice. It definitely feels like a retina screen now. 30hz isn't really noticeable at all, of course if you're planning to play games don't get it. colors are great, etc etc.


Ty Apple!


The last thing we need is 4k 60hz for Iris! You can do it Apple! haha


For those on 4k, the latest Chrome Beta fixes all issues.


http://www.inertramblings.com/2014/03/13/is-google-chrome-running-obscenely-slow -on-your-obscenely-expensive-mac-pro-or-retina-macbook-pro-with-4k-or-uhd-monito r-fear-not/

Apr 8, 2014 12:50 PM in response to mg428

thanks for posting!


At this point I am almost surprised that the 13" MBP can handle 4k @60Hz, although it made sense to me from the very beginning, since it can also drive two external 2k displays at 60Hz. Which is basically the same thing as MST.


Also i dont understand why apple doesnt put a nice display out there and let as many MBP owners as possible benefit from this?


I own a 13" and really want one of them 4k displays. 30Hz is not an option.

Apr 9, 2014 6:00 AM in response to johnniecache

Dear forumites:


As a non-tech savvy person and pehaps becuse of not being a native English speaker, I could not understand what that guy actually means with his statement "

"(In Bootcamp 13'' Haswell rMBP) shows the monitor as 2 monitors running in portrait. Other than this, it works @ 60hz".


Please kindly comment on nuances of the 4k 60Hz output on bootcamp of the Haswell rMBP 15'' with Nvidia 750M and Haswell rMBP 13'' with Iris. I wonder whether the end result (what I would see on the monitor) be the same or not.

Apr 9, 2014 1:56 PM in response to mg428

Guys,


Apparently this "2 monitors running in portrait" thing has a negative implication:


http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows8_1-desktop/4k-monitor-c onnected-through-displayport-12-and/f021d8e1-7c42-4705-ae84-0a1adcc3297f


But I could not fully understand this and cannot visualize it.


If you can grasp it, please kindly elaborate.

May 22, 2014 10:03 AM in response to MacPlus87

Hi all,


I am the guy who posted on Rene's site. I have tried various Mac combos as you can see in my post there:


http://rene.rebe.de/2014-01-27/dell-ultrasharp-24-4k-up2414q-on-mac/


I think someone wanted a clarification on my bootcamp Iris scenario. Intel has something called collage mode which allows you to put two monitors together and be seen as one ( similar to eyefinity ). It works, but only if you use just the external display. You have to keep your laptop closed or else it will attempt to join that to the collage and it just isn't workable.


So if you want 60hz in Bootcamp with rMBP 13" ( late 2013 ), you get one monitor. Otherwise you can run with multiple monitors and the O/S will then see the external display as 2 monitors instead of one ( this is a driver detail ). Perhaps Intel will fix the drivers. Also, it does not work at all in 60hz under Mavericks 10.9.3.


I have also tested this with the Samsung 28" 4k display. It was awful. The dell blows it away. That samsung is super low quality, leaks light, and was just generally unpleasant.


I hope this helps someone.


-t

May 22, 2014 10:51 AM in response to DavidErickson

I checked this morning and I don't have any kind of icon added near the wifi symbol, and it doesn't seem to detect it connected at all, eg:


$ system_profiler SPDisplaysDataType

Graphics/Displays:



Intel Iris Pro:



Chipset Model: Intel Iris Pro

Type: GPU

Bus: Built-In

VRAM (Dynamic, Max): 1536 MB

Vendor: Intel (0x8086)

Device ID: 0x0d26

Revision ID: 0x0008

gMux Version: 4.0.8 [3.2.8]



NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M:



Chipset Model: NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M

Type: GPU

Bus: PCIe

PCIe Lane Width: x8

VRAM (Total): 2048 MB

Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de)

Device ID: 0x0fe9

Revision ID: 0x00a2

ROM Revision: 3765

gMux Version: 4.0.8 [3.2.8]

Displays:

Color LCD:

Display Type: Retina LCD

Resolution: 2880 x 1800

Retina: Yes

Pixel Depth: 32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)

Mirror: Off

Online: Yes

Built-In: Yes

Dell U2713H EDID override:

Resolution: 2560 x 1440 @ 60 Hz

Pixel Depth: 32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)

Display Serial Number:

Main Display: Yes

Mirror: Off

Online: Yes

Rotation: Supported

Connection Type: DisplayPort

May 28, 2014 12:24 PM in response to jdiamond

This is an important point you make. Knowledge Base article HT6008 makes no distinction between the 13" and 15" late 2013 MacBook Pro Retina with reference to supporting 60Hz on the displays they tested. Apple support told me that the KB article explicitly identifies the 13" model as supporting 60Hz. It's looking like when 10.9.3 dropped, for whatever reason, the engineers pulled support for the 13" though it would seem that it does support 60 Hz (as many here and elsewhere have already identified). My tech support call is running up the ladder to the graphics engineers for a find answer.


I'm using the Dell UP2414Q connected to my MBPr 13" late 2013, and I'm not getting 60Hz even with DP 1.2 enabled on the monitor, nor do I see the scaling icons as shown in the HT6008 KB article.


It's surprising to me that Apple wasn't more thorough with the KB article--I mean people are making purchasing decisions based on that information--which is exactly what I did.

May 28, 2014 4:53 PM in response to tomengland

I'm actually quite happy with the Dell UP2414Q, even at 30Hz connected with my late 2013 13" MacBook Pro. For me, 4K is a game-chaning improvement. For what I use it for--mainly writing, web surfing, and light photo editing work--it's fine, though I note that window interactions like minimizing, displaying dialog sheets, etc., seem a bit stuttery. I'm sure my next Mac will support 60Hz (though I still hope Apple will offer 60Hz for the late 2013 13" MacBook Pro with a future software update. Anyone out there care to comment on the interface performance difference between 30Hz and 60Hz as it relates to the Iris graphics and the Dell UP2414Q? In other words, I wonder if Iris Pro at 60Hz is dramatically better with the UP2414Q than what I've got now.

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