Does the new Macbook Pro 15" (late 2013) supports 4K via Thunderbolt/Displayport?

johnnie and other people:

How do you interpret this statement?

To me this looks like its working as MST. Surprising he doesnt give more info, because normally MST must be selected on the display manually.

Dear forumites:

As a non-tech savvy person and pehaps becuse of not being a native English speaker, I could not understand what that guy actually means with his statement "

"(In Bootcamp 13'' Haswell rMBP) shows the monitor as 2 monitors running in portrait. Other than this, it works @ 60hz".

Please kindly comment on nuances of the 4k 60Hz output on bootcamp of the Haswell rMBP 15'' with Nvidia 750M and Haswell rMBP 13'' with Iris. I wonder whether the end result (what I would see on the monitor) be the same or not.

Guys,

Apparently this "2 monitors running in portrait" thing has a negative implication:

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows8_1-desktop/4k-monitor-c onnected-through-displayport-12-and/f021d8e1-7c42-4705-ae84-0a1adcc3297f

But I could not fully understand this and cannot visualize it.

If you can grasp it, please kindly elaborate.

What this simply means is that Intel drivers for Windows don't support merging 2 MST tiles into 1. This is necessary for all MST based DP 1.2 monitors to create a single screen. This is akin to "eyefinity" for AMD drivers/control panels, or NVidia Surround. Apple's recent drivers simply have this automatically built in. If they had chose to they could have allowed MST monitors to display 2 tiles similar to what is described above. Note that all 4k monitors produced so far are MST and thus this has been a common low-level issue that has to be managed by the graphics driver.

So the good news is that I would think that Apple/Intel could modify their drivers to merge the two tiles into 1 @ 60hz. If they choose to put the effort into it of course, and unless there is some low-level limitation in the intel GPU preventing this ... but again, this seems to be a driver issue based on recent history with AMD and NVidia. The driver needs to specifically merge the 2 tiles so that the user only sees 1.

Hope for 4k 60Hz on low-end 15'' rMBP?

According to the below link which includes the release notes of the beta 10.9.3 13D57 build, 10.9.3 provides "improved 4K display support on .... MacBook Pro with 15-inch Retina display (Late 2013)".

http://9to5mac.com/2014/05/01/os-x-mavericks-10-9-3-release-nears-with-bolstered -4k-display-support/

As you would remember, the high-end 15'' late 2013 rMBP with Nvidia 750M can do 4k @ 60Hz on Mavericks by virtue of the 10.9.3. This release note gives some hope to the owners of low-end late 2013 15'' rMBP with Iris Pro because the release note seems to be written down in a way that it encompasses all late 2013 15'' rMBPs, i.e. both low-end and high-end models with integrated Iris Pro and discrete Nvidia 750M GPU. In short, low-end late 2013 15'' rMBP with Iris Pro may do 4k @ 60Hz once the 10.9.3 final version is released. At this point late 2013 13'' rMBP with Iris has not been provided with such support. In other words, no 4k @ 60Hz on Mavericks with late 2013 13'' rMBP for the time being. Hopefully some day, perhaps with the 10.9.4, it will do it. Because it has been proved that it can do it on Windows. Therefore it can do it on Mavericks as well with the necessary driver.

AFAIK, the only difference between Iris and Iris Pro graphics are the levels of performance, not the driver API specifics. If true, I don't see why the same drivers wouldn't work, even of they work at an unacceptibly low level of performance. I'll investigate the driver issue and report back...

OK, I was wrong. I contacted some friends who do this for a living, and they said you do need a very different driver for Iris than Iris Pro. So consider that yet another driver platform Apple needs to reach.

Anybody tried the Samsubg U28D590D with the macbook pro 15" (late 2013) with the NVIDIA 750 graphics unit?

FYI, the official 4K support page does not distinguish between 13" andd 15" Macbook Pros.

The samsung U28D590D is not listed as a supported monitor on the suport page at:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT6008

But, ths display is supposed support 4k resolution without need for the MST hack due to updated electronics.

Hmmm, wonder if that means it works....

The following article claims that the samsung U28D590D works with the MBP Retina with the NVIDIA 750 graphics unit, but has some issues with other computers and configurations. In particular, the displays’s use of a single-stream DisplayPort connection, compared to the multi-stream connection hack required by first generation 4K displays to reach 60Hz, seems to produce glitches under 10.9.3.

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A Look at the 4K Display Improvements, and Remaining Flaws, in OS X 10.9.3

http://www.tekrevue.com/os-x-10-9-3-4k-displays/

Has anyone with 10.9.3 had luck getting MST to work with MULTIPLE displays? I have a rMBP <-> Dell U2713H <-> Dell U2713HM, the U2713H says it is getting a displayport 1.2 signal, but the U2713HM just displays a mirror, and I can't see any way in the OSX software to change it.

But those are not 4k displays, right? So unless you daisy-chain them you wont need MST or DP1.2.

If you connect an external display for the first time, os x will turn on mirroring. You will see a little icon with a triangle at the top, left of the WiFi icon. Try to turn this off, the setting will be saved.

No not 4k, but I want to only plug in a single cable for daisy chaining them so I can use the other tbolt port for ethernet. I'll check if I have that icon when I get in tomorrow, but when I pulled up the displays arrangement it only showed two total screens.