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Oct 24, 2013 12:55 PM in response to sengguohongby Dah•veed,★HelpfulContent and Apple IDs -
Content is forever tied to the Apple ID that bought it. Apple does not transfer content from one Apple Id to another. Apple does not merge Apple IDs. You will never be able to access your content bought with another Apple ID with a new ID.
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Dec 13, 2013 5:20 PM in response to Dah•veedby dumpsterdave,This appears to be a bug in the design of the App Store/OSX then:
If two users have administrative rights on the same box, with seperate Apple IDs, then the AppleID for a core app (say, iPhoto) would become linked to whatever admin ran the 1st update on that app forever.
e.g.,
* User 1 sets up the family box and creates 2nd account with admin rights (normal stuff there)
* User 2 is logged in when the app store pops an update for iPhoto
* User 2 allows the update using her credentials
* User 1 can no longer update iPhoto w/o having access to User2's AppleID-password
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Dec 13, 2013 6:26 PM in response to dumpsterdaveby Dah•veed,Except that isn't how new Macs work since the advent of the Mac App Store. The Mac, OS X, and the preinstalled iLife apps are permanently associated with whatever Apple ID originally configured the new Mac. And if the person who configured the new Mac did not accept the iLife apps into their Apple ID prior to using any one of the three apps, then those apps become one trick ponies and cannot be updated.
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Dec 14, 2013 12:43 PM in response to Dah•veedby dumpsterdave,Well, following the above mentioned workflow, this is *preciscely* what is happening: core apps now associated with two different AppleIDs.
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Dec 14, 2013 3:56 PM in response to dumpsterdaveby Dah•veed,What are you referring to as "core apps?"
To most folks, core apps are the Apple apps that come with OS X; Calendar, Contacts, Dictionary, etc, which are not Mac App Store (MAS) apps and do not have MAS receipts in their app bundle.
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Dec 15, 2013 1:44 PM in response to Dah•veedby dumpsterdave,Yup. That's why I referred to iPhoto as a "core app".
And the *updates* are handled through the OS/X App Store.
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Dec 15, 2013 1:54 PM in response to dumpsterdaveby Dah•veed,You still don't get it! iPhoto, iMovie and GarageBand are NOT core apps. They are not part of the apps installed with an update or upgrade of any version of OS X. They are MAS apps, they have MAS receipts in their app bundle and they would cost money if you had to buy them them from the MAS (as many people do.) They just happen to be given free by Apple with the purchase of a new Mac.
However, when a new Mac owner first sets up their new Mac, they must Accept the iLife apps into their MAS account before using any one of the three apps. If they don't, allthree apps cannot be upgraded.
Yes, they are updated through the MAS. Core Apps are not updated through the MAS, they are installed when OSX is updated through the MAS. Two very different processes.
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Dec 17, 2013 6:09 PM in response to Dah•veedby tas_rac,Sure, be picky about the nomenclature usage of "core app". Regardless, this configuration is patently absurd wherein the original user's Apple ID must be used.
Consider a scenario wherein it's a computer used at a company (unfortunately, this happens). The original employee may no longer work at the company. If that user used their personal Apple ID when the machine was initialized, then you're hamstrung.
The real discussion shouldn't be about what is and isn't a "core app". The discussion should be about how and when Apple will change this completely unsuitable constraint.
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Dec 17, 2013 7:20 PM in response to tas_racby Dah•veed,I am explaining how the system works. If you are unhappy with the Apple ecosystem, there are other company's products one can use.
The intelligent way that a company should be conducting it's business with Apple hardware/software is through an IT department that creates the company's own Apple IDs for it Mac's/iOS devices with which it configures the hardware and purchases software from Apple with proper business volume licenses.
If company policy allowed, employees would also still be able to use their individual Apple accounts to install their own previous consumer purchases on their company Mac/iOS device.
I'm not being picky, I'm being correct. Two different things.
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Dec 20, 2013 5:29 PM in response to sengguohongby ChewbaccaFreak,★HelpfulMove the apps that are giving you this issue to your trash. The App Store will update a few seconds later and they will no longer show up in your list of apps that need updating. If you are signed in with your own Apple ID then those apps should show up under Purchases and you can download them from there.
Hope that helps!
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Dec 23, 2013 11:42 PM in response to ChewbaccaFreakby dumpsterdave,ChewbaccaFreak,
Thanks for helping. I'll try this out as soon as time allows. I'll write back if it doesn't work
Thanks again
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Jan 24, 2014 2:43 PM in response to Dah•veedby Galen_E,Dah-veed,
First I want to thank you for your technically correct answers to dumpsterdave's questions. I also want to thank you for still having that Apple swagger that I haven't seen for a while. Namely the "If you don't like the Apple Ecosystem, go somewhere else" attitude. I've missed seeing that. I might even re-invest in Apple if people continue to believe that.
At any rate, I found this thread because I'm in IT for a company that has multiple Macs for our developers. If I understand you correctly, I need to use a generic apple ID for my devices, and then provide that password to everyone in my company? Yeah. That's totally secure. Let me remind you that apple IDs have credit cards associated with them. Or I have to create new apple IDs for each device, tie those to the computer and provide that to my users? That's totally sustainable.
You talk about Apple Volume licensing, but how does that work for the "default" apps, I don't care if they're core or provided for free with the purchase of the system.. they're default apps.
It's stupid. Plain and simple. I don't care if its the way it works, it is absolutely assinine to tie the Apple ID of the first admin to the computer in a way that's not changeable without a re-format.
ChewbaccaFreak: Thanks for the trash bin suggestion. I'll forward it to my users and hopefully can report on the results.
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Jan 24, 2014 4:27 PM in response to Galen_Eby Dah•veed,You talk about Apple Volume licensing, but how does that work for the "default" apps, I don't care if they're core or provided for free with the purchase of the system.. they're default apps.
The volume licensing for the core apps, the apps that are installed as part of OSX, are handled as the OS X license. These apps are only updated with the operating system, not individually. The iLife apps are the company's to do with as they wish. They are consumer apps for storing photos, making home movies and making home music. They don't even have to be left on a corp Mac. If the individual employee assigned the Mac has their own Apple ID, they can use that to install any of their personally acquired consumer apps of their choosing, apart from any software that the company has installed, as long as the Mac is solely in that employee's control.
I need to use a generic apple ID for my devices, and then provide that password to everyone in my company? Yeah. That's totally secure. Let me remind you that apple IDs have credit cards associated with them. Or I have to create new apple IDs for each device, tie those to the computer and provide that to my users? That's totally sustainable.
First, Apple IDs do not have to have credit cards associsted with them, especially if the company is making volume license purchases. I have never suggested that my clients go the generic Apple ID you posit here. My clients create Apple IDs for each Mac using email addresses created with their company domain. As long as an Apple ID does not use an Apple email domain, the email can be changed as needed, also the password.
Apple Volume Licensing -
http://www.apple.com/business/vpp/
Creating a new Apple ID for an iTunes Store, App Store, iBookstore, and Mac App Store account without a credit card -
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2534
Changing the email address you use for your Apple ID -
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5621
Manage your Apple ID -