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Lacie disk on FW not sleeping after installing Mavericks

On my 2007 iMac, with a LaCie D2 Quadra. This has been connected for years with FW800, and the power switch on the disk is set to Auto. When sleeping the Mac, the disk has always gone to sleep. After installing Mavericks, the disk does not go to sleep after sleeping the Mac when connected with FW800 or FW400, but will sleep if connected with USB2.0. Any ideas?

Posted on Oct 24, 2013 3:08 PM

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Feb 26, 2014 9:47 AM in response to mroadster

Here's what I'm experiencing with my Thunderbolt device:


-when I manually eject the drive from OSX Finder, it isn't spinning down like we want it to.

-however, when I put the computer to sleep, the thunderbolt device's drives do spin down. I believe this is new behavior since upgrading to 10.9.2


for reference, this is the product that I'm using: OWC MercuryHelios+E2 Thunderbolt SSD with eSATA 6Gb/s Storage Expansion

Feb 26, 2014 9:54 AM in response to mroadster

Just spoke with AE - they confirmed that new update has no changes whatsoever related to standby mode of attached drives. It's interesting that some people have had resolution of this issue?


It's also odd that some people have had issues with their thunderbolt drives - this should not be happening (should enter standby mode normally - mine does at least - and reports from Mac Pro so far suggest normal drive activity).


I'm reminded of when Kanye West said "George Bush doesn't care about Black people" - "Apple just doesn't care about FW anymore"

Feb 26, 2014 5:20 PM in response to lcrooks

UPDATE:

So this is interesting. I reported earlier that the issue appeared to be solved when using WD Green drives in Voyager Q docks, and it is for the GREEN drives, which is DIFFERENT behavior from 10.9.0 and 10.9.2. The WD Green drives DO go to sleep now when their built in trigger tells them to, like everyone else, they did NOT sleep in .0 and .1. Then other posts today from people saying it didn't fix anything got me thinking, so I pulled other drives to test in the dock. A Seagate Barracuda 7200.13 drive and WD Black.


These drives are NOT power-saving drives like the Greens and lo and behold, same problem as before, they keep spinning and do not sleep even if Energy settings are set to do so, and they stay spinning even after shutdown.


My apologies for getting people's hopes up. I should have tested other drives besides the Greens. Whether by design or unintentionally, SOMETHING changed in .2, as the Greens are working as expected. Based on Lcrooks conversation with the AE, it looks like it was unintentional

Mar 10, 2014 1:15 PM in response to mc_ringbearer

On an unrelated note mc-ring bearer, would strongly suggest avoiding WD Green or Seagate LP drives in the future. These drives are designed to be as energy efficient as possible and so spin down and up very aggressively. This causes a lot of wear on the drives. Most server environments will never use these drives as they quickly accumulate errors. Saving the environment is important, but these LP drives should be avoided - they're so unreliable.


Food for thought for those of you replacing your "archaic" FW drives with T-Bolt and USB3, the only interfaces Apple seems to support anymore ;)

Mar 17, 2014 2:27 AM in response to mroadster

It appears that if I don't have any of my USB drives connected, my FireWire drives (3 TB drives in OWC Mercury Elite-AL Pro enclosures) _will_ go to sleep soon after I put the computer to sleep. With any USB drive also connected, the FW drives refuse to sleep.


I haven't had time to do any thorough testing; it seems like once or twice the FW drives didn't go to sleep even though the USB drives were powered off, but most of the time they are sleeping when the computer does, now that I have the USB drives disconnected temporarily. I have both Seagate and Western Digital USB drives; I can't see what drives are in the OWC enclosures without opening them up. I do intend to do more testing of specific combinations, but I don't have a lot of time for that just at the moment.

Mar 17, 2014 12:54 PM in response to tbirdvet

I too have issues with two OWC Mercury Elite Pro (western digital) drives not going to sleep unless the imac is shut down. Mine are daisy chained and it doesn't matter whether they are connected via FW400 or FW800. I have a 2007 Intel imac, and assumed I'd need to buy a new imac to use a FW to thunderbolt adapter. Just so I understand correctly, will the adapter not solve this issue either? Is my only other workaround to revert to Mountain Lion? (which I don't think I can do since I upgraded from Snow Leopard to Mavericks and do not have an install copy of ML)

Lacie disk on FW not sleeping after installing Mavericks

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