Macbook pro 15 inch (late 2013) gaming and overheating issues

So I recently bought the new MacBook pro retina 15 inch for college. But, being a $2700 machine, I'm definitely going to game on it too (And I expect it to run games fairly smooth). However, both performance and heat wise, its not performing anywhere near as well as it should.


The first game I tried was portal 2 which got around 40-50 fps on 1440 x 900 (not on max settings) and only about 4 fps less on the full 2880 x 1800 resolution. Expecting better performance from the 750m I moved on to trying minecraft because its such a simple game graphically (Don't judge! lol). Now on this I should be able to put it on max and expect a smooth 55-60 fps. It was showing 20-35... Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure an i7, 750m, 16gb ram, and a 512gb pci-e based flash drive system should be able to render out a bunch of blocks with pixilated textures on them faster than 28 fps.


Then I noticed how hot the keyboard was getting. So I put my ear against my MacBook and I couldn't hear any fans running; though I could feel heat slowly rising out of the vents so I knew the were running, just very slowly. I feared for my extremely expensive system so I quickly downloaded a temperature gauge app and closed java. I don't know if it was launching the temperature gauge app or closing minecraft but right after I did the fans finally kicked in at full speed. The temperature app read 82 degrees Celsius on the processor.


My friend has the mid 2012 version and he can certainly run a game such as minecraft at 60fps easy. I just really hope that its some bugs with Mavericks and not my system (I do feel like Mavericks utilizes java pretty poorly or vice versa). And the fan part, that scares me. I'd rather not have that much money (and beautiful engineering) melt away.


Any thoughts on this?

Thanks for any help as to my situation too


-Kevin


Specs:

2.3GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7

512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

GT 750m 2048mb

16gb ddr3 1600Mhz

MACBOOK PRO (RETINA, 15-INCH, LATE 2013), OS X Mavericks (10.9)

Posted on Nov 3, 2013 11:01 AM

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Nov 14, 2013 6:23 AM in response to Charthye

Same condition as mine.

Even if the CPU usage is not so high, my machine gets hot and the fan is not activated to cool the machine


Also, I've made a test with 2K videos, I played 3 videos at the same time, CPU went up to 90% - 95%, then the fan was activated and it prevented to get machine be so hot .. So, I think the problem is about the fan, fan's speed doesn't adapts according to the temparature, it's oberserving only the CPU usage ..

Nov 14, 2013 4:26 PM in response to msudan

Sounds like an issue to me. I have the same model (late 2013 haswell - 2599$) and even when I run virtual machines all day with cpu intensive tasks, the machine doesn't get too hot. it might get a little warm but not in an unpleasent way. I played 4k videos (on youtube) without issues at all.


why wont you bring it to the store so someone can take a look at it ?

Nov 23, 2013 7:02 AM in response to lktfl

Hi lktfl


So i also bought a brand new macbook pro 15inch 2013 late model

I love to do some video editing and when i use final cut pro my machine is getting so hot that i almost can bake a egg on it.... it really gets so extreme hot that i saw lines in my brand new macbook and there was a very nasty plastic smell like 110 celcius

so i think I have the same problems like you but i think i have found a solutions sinds i already changed my macbook pro for 5 times and apple dont have solution for this problem...


First i started with some very nice tool and i think someone already mention it in this post " iStat Menu" but it cost money and bla bla bla andi want freeware and dont want to pay for this problem and it didnt do the things i wanted to happen.. so i keep searching the internet and i think i found the solution for all macbook pro late 2013

check this website.. i'm not sure if i'm allowed to put a link on this site but lets give it a try

http://www.crystalidea.com/products?ref=fancontrol_mac

so after testing and seems the machine is running perfect and the temp is now stabel at 50 degrees celcius.


Guys sorry for my bad English but i hope this will help you guys

Nov 24, 2013 6:25 PM in response to lktfl

I am having the same problem with my 15" MBP Retina Display. At arbitrary times, the CPU seems to top 200 deg F (all four cores) and the fans get up to >4000 rpm. I notice this because I use the iStat Menu app on my laptop.


I have noticed this happens when I have a lot of apps open (regardless of being on battery or wall adapter). I also notice that when I restart the computer, I have no problems...at least for a while.


The fans sap my battery pretty effectively and it's awkward to be in a room with a laptop that sounds like it's about to lift off and hover. I've gone to the Genius Bar at my local Apple Store who was not able to help but kept my Applecare file open. I'm in the middle of a crunch for work but will address this over the Thanksgiving holiday by bringing it back to the Genius Bar. I am thinking a firmware update is hopefully in our near future.

Nov 25, 2013 9:03 AM in response to lktfl

So after testing and testing with Final Cut Pro my laptop is working like a champ it's not getting hotter than 55 degrees ... only one thing i need to do now is buy more memory because 8GB is not enough and it starts to eat up the speed " it's like when i use it i only have 100mb memory left " 😝


so this is what i heard that i can upgrade it to max 32GB but i'n not sure...


and than again peeps if you machine keeps overheating download this great app for FREE


http://www.crystalidea.com/products?ref=fancontrol_mac


Message was edited by: Tristan@honkong

Dec 8, 2013 5:54 AM in response to lktfl

I've just bought my macbook pro yesterday and have the same problem. if I play any game which this machine (which should handle), it reaches an average temp of 70 degrees, but after read this tread, I tried that Macs fan control program and it works a treat. All i did was increase the fan speed from the original ideal speed of 2200 to 2800 and now the CPU and GPU temp is a nice 58 Degrees on full load 🙂


macbook spec is the following;

Retina, 15-inch, Late 2013


Processor 2.6 GHz Intel Core i7


Memory 16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3


Graphics NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M 2048 MB


Software OS X 10.9

Dec 19, 2013 6:05 AM in response to lktfl

As a test, I played XCOM: Enemy Unknown through steam and closed all my other open applications. My fans were set to max speed (6000 rpm for left and 5900 for right or something like that) and I was getting temperatures around 68 degrees C. Do you guys think that the temperature is normal with both fans set at max speed?

Dec 31, 2013 7:57 AM in response to lktfl

Hi :)


So, I just cancelled my order for a late 2013 15 inch 2.3/16gig ram/dedicated GPU retina MBP

( same model), for fear I would get the same issues, and the other problems of touchpad/keyboard freezing up.


Has the recent (15 inch with dedicated GPU specific) update sorted this issue or not ?


I read that the iris pro was doing all the work because a software issue was stopping the dedicated GPU kicking in when it should have. Would this account for the overheating issues ?


Can someone shed any further light on this ?


Many thanks


Paul

Dec 31, 2013 6:21 PM in response to 1028paul

Hi Paul, I'm using the new mbp 16 gb 500ssd and i running like a charm... Nothing is freezing like mouse or mousepad or keyboard. The only problem is the overheating but i shorted that out with the fan control app i found on the internet.

I'm sending this from my iphone but later on the day when I'm home I will send you full report about performance


Happy new year and have a nice day

Jan 1, 2014 3:57 AM in response to lktfl

Happy New Year to eveyone 🙂


Thanks Tristan, I am wishing I had not cancelled my order now 😟


I had an earlier macbook pro (2011) the screen was poor and I returned it as on white backgrounds there was a pink tint on the left side and a blue tint on the right... the two shop display models were the same. So now that they have a retina display, and SSD I figured the time was right to get one.


I know macbook pros tend to run hot, but bearing in mind all of the issues that are being reported I felt it would be wise to hold off untill theses problems were addressed by Apple.


I read about an update specifically for this model (15 inch / 2.3 i7 / NVIDIA GeForce 750m) to correct an issue where the dedicated GPU was not switching on as it should, and wondered if that was specifically to fix this issue?.. I appreciate that using a third party app to increase fan speeds would cool the CPU & GPU, but if the GPU is not coming on as it should surely extra cooling is a compromise as opposed to a fix... ??


It would be really good to hear from anyone who had the overheating issue then used this update, to see if that corrected the issue.


Thanks


Paul

Jan 1, 2014 9:44 AM in response to Tristan@honkong

Tristan


I edited the fan rules using iStat Menus which is probably similar to the app you used.


But I'm a little wary of setting the fans up to 3000 rpm as a default as I think you mentioned in an earlier post.


My overheating occurs sporadically and I am trying to log it as AppleCare/Geniuses cannot figure it out.


I'm worried that if I set my fans too high, they will wear out faster, although 3000 rpm may not be much of a stress, but the nominal value is ~2000 rpm.


What was your reasoning for setting them at 3000rpm?


Thanks in advance.


Also - I did take my 2013 Retina MBP to the Genius bar and they are going to replace the motherboard. Their diagnostics found something with the DC In Sensor. I am thinking it's a totally different issue but we'll see if this heating problem goes away when the repair is completed.

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