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Macbook pro 15 inch (late 2013) gaming and overheating issues

So I recently bought the new MacBook pro retina 15 inch for college. But, being a $2700 machine, I'm definitely going to game on it too (And I expect it to run games fairly smooth). However, both performance and heat wise, its not performing anywhere near as well as it should.


The first game I tried was portal 2 which got around 40-50 fps on 1440 x 900 (not on max settings) and only about 4 fps less on the full 2880 x 1800 resolution. Expecting better performance from the 750m I moved on to trying minecraft because its such a simple game graphically (Don't judge! lol). Now on this I should be able to put it on max and expect a smooth 55-60 fps. It was showing 20-35... Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure an i7, 750m, 16gb ram, and a 512gb pci-e based flash drive system should be able to render out a bunch of blocks with pixilated textures on them faster than 28 fps.


Then I noticed how hot the keyboard was getting. So I put my ear against my MacBook and I couldn't hear any fans running; though I could feel heat slowly rising out of the vents so I knew the were running, just very slowly. I feared for my extremely expensive system so I quickly downloaded a temperature gauge app and closed java. I don't know if it was launching the temperature gauge app or closing minecraft but right after I did the fans finally kicked in at full speed. The temperature app read 82 degrees Celsius on the processor.


My friend has the mid 2012 version and he can certainly run a game such as minecraft at 60fps easy. I just really hope that its some bugs with Mavericks and not my system (I do feel like Mavericks utilizes java pretty poorly or vice versa). And the fan part, that scares me. I'd rather not have that much money (and beautiful engineering) melt away.


Any thoughts on this?

Thanks for any help as to my situation too


-Kevin


Specs:

2.3GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7

512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

GT 750m 2048mb

16gb ddr3 1600Mhz

MACBOOK PRO (RETINA, 15-INCH, LATE 2013), OS X Mavericks (10.9)

Posted on Nov 3, 2013 11:01 AM

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Posted on Nov 3, 2013 11:04 AM

Take it back to the vendor while it's in warranty.

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Jan 4, 2014 7:23 PM in response to lktfl

Just received my rMBP 15" yesterday. After reading about the heating issue I wanted to test out a game and see what would happen. I downloaded Diablo 3 as I don't have any more recent games, and within 30 seconds of loading it up, the left side of the MBP started getting really hot. While I was in OSX setting it up and playing around online, the temperature stayed really cool. Currently I am running boot camp to install windows to be able to use my copy of office and other things windows based I use for school. Once it starts up the computer starts to get hot again. After reading that there is no support for the switching graphics card being used, I can only conclude that when the discrete 750m gets turned on, it is the source of the heat. I didn't play Diablo much, so didn't notice the fans speed increasing, at least not audibly. Strangely enough they have only done that while the Blizzard downloader was running while installing Diablo. So from my limited time with this machine, seems that there should be a way to have a firmware update for the fan control to increase when it switches over to the discrete video before it comes to the point of people burning their fingers or laps.

Jan 6, 2014 5:34 AM in response to lukaspechar

Go into Applications->Utilities->Activity Monitor and click on the CPU tab. You should see a list of tasks that are running on your computer. If it's not visible, go to View->Columns and make sure the CPU % is visible. Then click on that column in the display to order the tasks by the amount of CPU calculations they are using (to some degree).


Whenever my MB Pro starts overheating, I am more often than not, seeing the com.apple.IconServicesAgent task take anywhere from 95-200% (200% CPU???). When I delete that task, my overheating problem goes away instantly.


I have also noticed that the overheating problem goes away when I restart my laptop even if I launch the exact same apps. This makes me think the problem is software-related, rather than hardware-related.


I don't know what IconServicesAgent does but it seems to take up an excessive amount of CPU cycles. I do not recommend using the Activity Monitor to delete tasks that you do not know, but this process seems to work for me. I am hoping the next rev of Mavericks will fix this problem.

Jan 22, 2014 11:46 AM in response to lktfl

I just bought a Macbook Pro Retina 15 inches, 2.3, 512 last week. I just ran skype and nothing else, the temperature went upto 90 degrees celsius. The problem is it never comes down. I dont do anything except skype and facebooking and the temperatures are going really crazy. Its just impossible to touch the top part of the keyboard leave aside putting this LAPtop on my LAP. I am really wondering if spending 2700 euros on this computer was worth it? This is my first Mac and I was kinda expecting a flawless computer but 😟. Please help me out guys, what should I do?

Jan 22, 2014 10:37 PM in response to arronsekhri

Welcome to the story or my life. I'm very sorry to hear about this. I have the same issues. Though my temperature goes that high only when on flash sites , parallels and Xcode simulator I would suggest taking it to the store where you got it and show them exactly how it is happening hopefully they can replace it for you. Use the software iStat nano or pro and take screenshots of the temperatures. Once you have gathered some data you will have more proof.


The strange thing in my case is that I took it to apple twice and they said nothing is wrong. Now that my warranty has expired I still get the high temperatures even up to 104C, I even replaced my thermal paste which did help but I still occasionally get the high temperatures anyway. Where gaming is concerned just forget it. Games are not playable without the CPU throttling.


Check my thread I posted above for a much more detailed report of what I tried. I am not sure if it is the extra processing for the retina causing the heat but it drives me mad each time I think of the money I spent on it.


Good luck

Jan 22, 2014 10:48 PM in response to arronsekhri

Hi Lucas,


The overheating problems; yeah they suck but there is a simple solution for it ... download this app http://www.crystalidea.com/products?ref=fancontrol_mac and install it and set it to the right temp you want.

The temp of 90 degrees is to high ... I already had big discussions with the applestore and they have no solution for it at the moment.... wait until the next software update...but so far this is the best solution for free !


and I also see you said something about Games are not playable... I really don't have this problem with my Late macbook pro 15 inch retina top model and it's blazing fast...


Software is use


Final cut pro

Logic pro X

Adobe suite

abelton Live

Aprature

Counterstrike Global


No prerformance problems at all !


good luck with your machine and don't let it get above the 100 degrees, so install the fancontroler

Jan 23, 2014 1:08 AM in response to Tristan@honkong

I talked to the guys from Apple care and also from my local Apple store. This was their reply " The first possibiity of an appointment is after a week from now. You should not use your mac book till then. It is not possible to exchange your notebook with a new one."


Now I am so looking forward to getting my 2700 euros, BRAND NEW notebook repaired after just 5 days of use. If I knew that before, I could have just bought a REFURBISHED notebook and saved my pocket. Horrible experience already.

Jan 23, 2014 2:18 AM in response to arronsekhri

i don't know which country you comming from... but here in Hong Kong the service is awesome. When i go stand on my stripes they change it for me at the spot without any problem...


and about your future new macbook .. you will have the same problems.. you need to install that plugin i showed in my previous posts and i promise you that the problems are solved.. the main problem is that the fans don't wanna turn on ... so it's a software problem and not a hardware problem .... don't let apple fool you buddy and please don't get frustrated...


http://www.crystalidea.com/products?ref=fancontrol_mac


install this app please and monitor your temp and adjust your fans with this software or you download istats menu gives you even more details about your temp and other sensors.

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Jan 23, 2014 6:11 AM in response to lktfl

Just came across this topic, and Lukaspechar, I fully agree.


There are other topics where the same issue is discussed:


Late 2013 15" MacBook Pro Heat Issues when Gaming

MacBook Retina 15" late-2013 Heat (my post here)


With this topic included I think it's safe to say these aren't just incidents but a design flaw for this rMBP model. It seems Apple underestimated the combined heath of the Intel CPU and the GT750m. So that makes me wonder whether any repairs done by Apple would help. That is, until they made a new board revision or some other kind of hardware changes. Nevertheless, if anyone gives the Apple Support route a try please post here about your experiences, whether they swap the board etc. (and ofcourse whether this helped solve the heating problem).


I haven't checked the fan speeds during gaming, but judging from the noise it sounds like it's already ramped up to max. I'll give the fan control application a try though.

Macbook pro 15 inch (late 2013) gaming and overheating issues

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